do you understand why millions feel that this is a slippery slope, though?I’m not going with Desantis hate. I’m vaccinated and want football. What is there to hate about Desantis?
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do you understand why millions feel that this is a slippery slope, though?I’m not going with Desantis hate. I’m vaccinated and want football. What is there to hate about Desantis?
What’s his motivation? What’s he trying to prove? He thinks masks are restrictive to kids and feels that it’s not necessary. Some parents don’t want their kids wearing them. It’s basically the never ending unmasked vs masked wardo you understand why millions feel that this is a slippery slope, though?
its about the pattern we've witnessed over the past 18 months, not the minutiae of today's pissing match.What’s his motivation? What’s he trying to prove? He thinks masks are restrictive to kids and feels that it’s not necessary. Some parents don’t want their kids wearing them. It’s basically the never ending unmasked vs masked war
You forgot: "all because a pangolin had a bat in its mouth".its about the pattern we've witnessed over the past 18 months, not the minutiae of today's pissing match.
2 weeks to flatten the curve turned into, just need to shut down for a month, turned into "just another month", turned into "just until summer's over", turned into "well its Trumps fault anyway, we just need new leadership", turned into "don't trust Trumps vaccine", turned into a very shady and unprecedented election process, which turned into "take the vax if you want, its your decision".
then it all started to die down.
then like clockwork, as soon as life seemed like it was beginning to revert to a sense of normalcy in spite of the media doing their best to keep everyone divided, the boogeyman reappeared, "and its like 10x scarier you just have to believe me."
so now when its become "just need you to take this vaccine, we'll be done controlling you after that" millions of people are done believing there isn't another goalpost shift following immediately. hell, even a dog gets bored of playing with a toy that you put out of reach for them over and over.
and yeah, unfortunately the election plays into this doubt because the same flavor of communication that was used to stifle any discussion on the fraudulent election is being used to dismiss anyone saying "eh, i think i'll take my 99.9% chances" into a conspiracy theorist.
unlike most others, you're worth communicating this to. i don't suspect i'll change your mind, but maybe it'll inspire you to work on your own communication regarding the subject. maybe instead of "you're a fukcing murderous idiot if you don't take the vaccine immediately" you can say "personally i don't trust the administration either. the vaccine is an achievement of Donald J Trump's and the majority of the science i've researched indicates you have a greater chance of dying from covid than from taking the vaccine"
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I absolutely hate these new restrictions when I got vaccinated, suffered short term side effects and I ALREADY HAD COVIDits about the pattern we've witnessed over the past 18 months, not the minutiae of today's pissing match.
2 weeks to flatten the curve turned into, just need to shut down for a month, turned into "just another month", turned into "just until summer's over", turned into "well its Trumps fault anyway, we just need new leadership", turned into "don't trust Trumps vaccine", turned into a very shady and unprecedented election process, which turned into "take the vax if you want, its your decision".
then it all started to die down.
then like clockwork, as soon as life seemed like it was beginning to revert to a sense of normalcy in spite of the media doing their best to keep everyone divided, the boogeyman reappeared, "and its like 10x scarier you just have to believe me."
so now when its become "just need you to take this vaccine, we'll be done controlling you after that" millions of people are done believing there isn't another goalpost shift following immediately. hell, even a dog gets bored of playing with a toy that you put out of reach for them over and over.
and yeah, unfortunately the election plays into this doubt because the same flavor of communication that was used to stifle any discussion on the fraudulent election is being used to dismiss anyone saying "eh, i think i'll take my 99.9% chances" into a conspiracy theorist.
unlike most others, you're worth communicating this to. i don't suspect i'll change your mind, but maybe it'll inspire you to work on your own communication regarding the subject. maybe instead of "you're a fukcing murderous idiot if you don't take the vaccine immediately" you can say "personally i don't trust the administration either. the vaccine is an achievement of Donald J Trump's and the majority of the science i've researched indicates you have a greater chance of dying from covid than from taking the vaccine"
"Influence people positively".I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I absolutely hate these new restrictions when I got vaccinated, suffered short term side effects and I ALREADY HAD COVID
I was trying to play my part and stop having to wear a damn mask as promised
The point that you’re missing is this pandemic contains unknown or unpredicted variables, so the GOALPOSTS are changing and it’s dynamic. I’m mostly talking about variants and the amount of unvaccinated people. Additionally the vaccines aren’t exactly as promised, but they are effective. Nothing is 100%. That would be a cure.
We haven’t had a pandemic of this magnitude since 1918 and honestly, nobody knows WTF they are doing because we are learning and it’s a dynamic process. Additionally, the people “in charge” like Fauci, don’t want to backtrack and admit they were wrong. Especially about the effectiveness of masks BS. Throw in the political division (which has never been greater). Government distrust, the poor, uneducated, misguided, misinformed, etc. and you have the existing clusterfukc.
We are all over the place with how to handle this and we have morons on here just reading Google articles and posting Twitter rants (sometimes without even reading them) and proving no clinically useful point that can be used in our everyday lives as well to influence people positively and help end this pandemic. I’m taking anti-vaxxers personally because they are effecting the livelihood of me and my family.
No Corky. You got it all wrong. Shit for brains seeking attention by saying he has COVID and scanning Twitter 24/7 posting BS outlier conspiracy theory articles that you don’t even read. They do nothing but put fear into people about getting vaccinated when the overwhelming data shows that the benefits greatly outweigh the risks of catching COVID. Always looking for the “gotcha” article."Influence people positively".
Unbelievable, considering how you and Joe treated me for saying the same thing. Jackasses.
I wasn’t speaking of you specifically with that line but to the general media conclusion that it’s our policies that have caused the spike. Maybe they contributed, maybe not, but it would serve us well to figure out what all of the variables were and maybe we can mitigate it in other places.I’m not going with Desantis hate. I’m vaccinated and want football. What is there to hate about Desantis?
"Influence people positively".
Unbelievable, considering how you and Joe treated me for saying the same thing. Jackasses.
Seethe, loser.its about the pattern we've witnessed over the past 18 months, not the minutiae of today's pissing match.
2 weeks to flatten the curve turned into, just need to shut down for a month, turned into "just another month", turned into "just until summer's over", turned into "well its Trumps fault anyway, we just need new leadership", turned into "don't trust Trumps vaccine", turned into a very shady and unprecedented election process, which turned into "take the vax if you want, its your decision".
then it all started to die down.
then like clockwork, as soon as life seemed like it was beginning to revert to a sense of normalcy in spite of the media doing their best to keep everyone divided, the boogeyman reappeared, "and its like 10x scarier you just have to believe me."
so now when its become "just need you to take this vaccine, we'll be done controlling you after that" millions of people are done believing there isn't another goalpost shift following immediately. hell, even a dog gets bored of playing with a toy that you put out of reach for them over and over.
and yeah, unfortunately the election plays into this doubt because the same flavor of communication that was used to stifle any discussion on the fraudulent election is being used to dismiss anyone saying "eh, i think i'll take my 99.9% chances" into a conspiracy theorist.
unlike most others, you're worth communicating this to. i don't suspect i'll change your mind, but maybe it'll inspire you to work on your own communication regarding the subject. maybe instead of "you're a fukcing murderous idiot if you don't take the vaccine immediately" you can say "personally i don't trust the administration either. the vaccine is an achievement of Donald J Trump's and the majority of the science i've researched indicates you have a greater chance of dying from covid than from taking the vaccine"
stay mad, pedophileSeethe, loser.
And while you're at it, get vaccinated.
Median age is 55, so you're skewing the facts. Also consider the elderly die sooner, and the younger survive and stay longer.So.. are you not aware that Florida hospitals are flooded with people that are very sick or dying in the 35-55 age group range?
No, it's statistics.Just happens that 2 people on here got sick or died now because it’s a random coincidence?
If we gave people the data, more would make well informed choices.I wasn’t speaking of you specifically with that line but to the general media conclusion that it’s our policies that have caused the spike. Maybe they contributed, maybe not, but it would serve us well to figure out what all of the variables were and maybe we can mitigate it in other places.
No, Biden wants to open, just like Trump did. That's why the CDC flopped on the recommendations, right after re-asserting they should remain, 7-8 weeks ago.Imagine still bitching about a fraudulent election in August of 2021 and still bitching about a vaccine as fellow antivax boarders in their 30s are literally hospitalized or dying. Imagine thinking that Biden wants to prolong a pandemic and tank the economy to improve his election odds more than 3 years from now. How small would your brain have to be?
You continue to be wrong about the spreading of the virus and are inconsistent with that and the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines in slowing spread.Median age is 55, so you're skewing the facts. Also consider the elderly die sooner, and the younger survive and stay longer.
In any case, all your fear mongering and trolling still isn't a good cover fit your being continually wrong in your predictions.
Hell will freeze over before you admit such, and you will still be calling people idiots who actual read NIH and other studies.
The risk of vaccine side effects and death vs COVID continues to be lower in every age group, including children, but facts seem not to be your strong point.But math and facts haven't been your strong suit here. Even worse when it comes to children.
What’s your definition of “diseased?” That’s not a medical term, which doesn’t surprise me coming from someone who’s not remotely in the medical field who tries to act like they are.At least 5% of the mRNA vaccinated are going to be diseased, possibly hospitalized, at some point, and it could reach 25%.
Is this another “fact” that you made up?At least 5% of the mRNA vaccinated are going to be diseased, possibly hospitalized, at some point, and it could reach 25%.
I agree with you. I should have not used STOP. More accurately I should have said "slow down the spread to reduce the burden on the hospitals and to reduce deaths over the long term." However, let me say this slowly for you. You can accelerate the spread by not taking actions fast enough. Florida has the highest infection in the country due to the actions of DeSantis.Let me say this slowly for you. YOU… CANNOT… STOP… A… RESPIRATORY… VIRUS…
You can mitigate the effects and you can hope that it burns itself out before too much damage is done but you are never, ever, EVER going to be able to stop an airborne respiratory virus that jumps from people to animals and back with no hesitation. Demanding such from any leadership is an extremely unproductive road.
False!going off of thread views, its reasonable to assume there are at least 11,000 people on this board. hell, lets be generous and round down to 10,000.
given that there are 2 of those 10,000 who have been confirmed to have either passed (RIP) or been seriously hospitalized, we once again arrive at a survival rate of ....
wait for it
try not to get too triggered
>99.98%
Based on poll responses there are around 500 active members of the dungeon. Also there have been several other threads of dungeon members hospitalized since the pandemic began. SCK and Wayne were a couple of the most outspoken members of the board so their absence given death or hospitalization is apparent. That is all. If you are still unvaccinated in August 2021 you are an idiot.going off of thread views, its reasonable to assume there are at least 11,000 people on this board. hell, lets be generous and round down to 10,000.
given that there are 2 of those 10,000 who have been confirmed to have either passed (RIP) or been seriously hospitalized, we once again arrive at a survival rate of ....
wait for it
try not to get too triggered
>99.98%
On a board that is full of many young people that 76% WERE to be vaccinated MONTHS AGO. Probably in excess of 90% now. Oh..., the rest of the very sick or (dead) haven’t been able to find a way to tell us, but....., wait for this..going off of thread views, its reasonable to assume there are at least 11,000 people on this board. hell, lets be generous and round down to 10,000.
given that there are 2 of those 10,000 who have been confirmed to have either passed (RIP) or been seriously hospitalized, we once again arrive at a survival rate of ....
wait for it
try not to get too triggered
>99.98%
Based on poll responses there are around 500 active members of the dungeon. Also there have been several other threads of dungeon members hospitalized since the pandemic began. SCK and Wayne were a couple of the most outspoken members of the board so their absence given death or hospitalization is apparent. That is all. If you are still unvaccinated in August 2021 you are an idiot.
What’s your definition of “diseased?” That’s not a medical term, which doesn’t surprise me coming from someone who’s not remotely in the medical field who tries to act like they are.
So.,, 5% mRNA vaccinationated are going to be “diseased” or hospitalized. Can you show me where that study is or did you just pull it out of your ass? Stop talking like a 3rd grader
If you ever have a chance to read his ridiculously long posts, they are full of babble that shows a clear lack of medical knowledge. He reads, but can’t apply it clinically"Diseased." This dumb ass probably asks the nurse to draw blood from his arteries, too.
If you ever have a chance to read his ridiculously long posts, they are full of babble that shows a clear lack of medical knowledge. He reads, but can’t apply it clinically
I guess outspoken probably not the right word. His absence is noticeable because he posts a lot having made 20k posts. I don’t remember him making comments about the vaccine specifically, but his friend who made the dungeon thread said he isn’t vaccinated. Again these people who make tens of thousands of posts are noticeable when they stop posting. If a member who posts once a year suddenly stopped logging in, who would even know?Good God, was Wayne that outspoken about not getting a vaccine?
What’s your definition of “diseased?” That’s not a medical term, which doesn’t surprise me coming from someone who’s not remotely in the medical field who tries to act like they are
Are you guys serious? Now I know you're haven't read single NIH or other study! Wow, talk about undermining your own credibility! This is 101 in medical."Diseased." This dumb ass probably asks the nurse to draw blood from his arteries, too.
Are you guys serious? Now I know you're haven't read single NIH or other study! Wow, talk about undermining your own credibility! This is 101 in medical.
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I'll quote the first paragraph in the last...
'Infection and Disease are two words that are often confused as one and the same. In fact these two medical terms are different in their meanings. Infection is understood in the sense of contamination. Contaminating air or water with harmful organisms is said to cause infection. Infection affects a person with disease.'
You guys keep interchanging words and numbers and literally undermine yourselves, because you have comprehension issues with studies and everything else. You literally don't care to be educated with 101 terminology. @Knight2000 is just as bad at times.
Not in your US Media articles, no, of course not. 3rd grade doesn't use those terms.Yeah, I didn't see the word "diseased" in any of those articles, you stupid shit.
Massive failure yet again.
Not in your US Media articles, no, of course not. 3rd grade doesn't use those terms.
I rest my case.
Well, seeing that the next time you get a Covid vaccine will also be the first time, I guess you’ll have less to worry about?And it might be every 6 months or less with the effective rate dropping so fast after full vaccination. Then how healthy is the mrna vaccine to take it that often.