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After killing and maiming thousands of Americans, CDC might be finally pulling the plug on J&J. They should have done this 6 months ago. The safety shit show and American lives continues. All for a failing vaccine that many don't even need


The reports of the condition grew worrisome enough in recent weeks that federal officials determined they needed to call an emergency meeting of the C.D.C. advisers.

 
Is it a fact that the CDC is meeting to discuss blood clots issues with the J&J vax today?

Yep, just posted the same thing. What a shit show. Eventually all the vaccines will be withdrawn, including the clusterfook mRNA. But not after another couple hundred thousand are killed or maimed.

The scientific community was going along with the con, but no more. When you got lapdogs like Peter Hotez, Paul Offitt, and respected scientists like Michael Mina going against the narrative, you got problems.
 
June 11, Shuckster:

"Last forward to today and these same people who were saying 'what's the big deal? For most folks there's a 99% survival rate' NOW want us to avoid getting back to normal by everybody taking one of the vaccines because....get this.....there's a 0.00000001 percent chance of blood clots."
 
June 11, Shuckster:

"Last forward to today and these same people who were saying 'what's the big deal? For most folks there's a 99% survival rate' NOW want us to avoid getting back to normal by everybody taking one of the vaccines because....get this.....there's a 0.00000001 percent chance of blood clots."
Yep, Shuckster, December 16th too.
Don't you think it's kind of a big deal that the scientists you trust are starting to question the damage done by the vaccines?
News flash: questioning all aspects of a new contagious disease and its vaccinations are what viral scientists do.
 
Yep, Shuckster, December 16th too.

News flash: questioning all aspects of a new contagious disease and its vaccinations are what viral scientists do.
Yep. And the scientists that we have been citing have been doing just that for months, but you called them conspiracy theorists because the horse doctor from Pfizer said everything was perfectly safe.
 
Yep. And the scientists that we have been citing have been doing just that for months, but you called them conspiracy theorists because the horse doctor from Pfizer said everything was perfectly safe.
ALL drugs have side-effects---which is why every single drug commercial ends with a litany of 'don't take if blah, blah, blah' disclaimers.

The Covid vaccines are safe for 99% of the population--which is why it received FDA approval.
 
ALL drugs have side-effects---which is why every single drug commercial ends with a litany of 'don't take if blah, blah, blah' disclaimers.

The Covid vaccines are safe for 99% of the population--which is why it received FDA approval.
You haven't taken an FDA approved covid vaccine. You took one that has an EUA, which means there are many things still unknown about it. Your scientists stuck with data from prior to the observation step in the scientific method. Ours have been diligently collecting data the entire time.
 
You haven't taken an FDA approved covid vaccine. You took one that has an EUA, which means there are many things still unknown about it. Your scientists stuck with data from prior to the observation step in the scientific method. Ours have been diligently collecting data the entire time.

Oh so now you care about full FDA approval? Is that right? So why haven’t you received Pfizer shots yet?
 


Why did it take the CDC so long to come to this realization when several scientists were saying it months earlier?
 
There comes a point where it becomes obvious these message board discussions aren't about how best to protect yourself and your loved ones from catching COVID.

It's really about mental health.
 
There comes a point where it becomes obvious these message board discussions aren't about how best to protect yourself and your loved ones from catching COVID.

It's really about mental health.
How does getting vaccinated yourself protect your loved ones?
 
People on the must vax and never ever vax are both mentally ill. Same is true with mask vs no mask.
There is some logic to wearing mask if they are n95 or better. But wearing mask outside with a reasonable spacing between people or riding alone in your own car with air on and windows up is a sign of mental illness.
 
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People on the must vax and never ever vax are both mentally ill. Same is true with mask vs no mask.
There is some logic to wearing mask if they are n95 or better. But wearing mask outside with a reasonable spacing between people or riding alone in your own car with air on and windows up is a sign of mental illness.
Just remember that the people who are wearing their masks while they are alone in their car are the ones driving public policy.
 
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Why did it take the CDC so long to come to this realization when several scientists were saying it months earlier?


The FDA has known all about the serious adverse events. The doc dump from the Pfizer FOIA shows in part how bad it really is. Recall the infamous "hidden" slide that they accidentally shared with the public. Do you think any of our MSM lapdog friends on this thread ever saw this slide?

Minority harm could become majority harm if they let these safety signals go unchecked. The dysfunction and breakdown in the so-called "safety monitoring" is exacerbated by the spineless MD's who do not report adverse events for fear of reprisal.

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Just remember that the people who are wearing their masks while they are alone in their car are the ones driving public policy.
Except that they don't. The people that our medical experts are giving the most detailed classified and unclassified information about the pandemic and variants and the experts themselves aren't following much of the directives they are pushing unless the camera is on them. Which then begs the question, if the people who are the most informed and have reports directly from the experts aren't complying, how can we demonize any normal person inundated with messaging from a universe of sources that doesn't comply?
 
Except that they don't. The people that our medical experts are giving the most detailed classified and unclassified information about the pandemic and variants and the experts themselves aren't following much of the directives they are pushing unless the camera is on them.
Except for a few high-profile politicians and celebrities, a majority of Americans have tried to do the right thing, publicly and privately.
Which then begs the question ... how can we demonize any normal person inundated with messaging from a universe of sources that doesn't comply?
Most normal people don't pay attention to the anti-vaxxer bullsh!t. Your "universe" of information is what you make it.
 
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The unvaccinated are almost exclusively the ones filling hospitals and dying around the world and yet the Circle Jerk Boyz here are convincing themselves they’re on the right side of this manufactured debate 😂
This is the literal problem with you guys ...

You are still talking about a single set of vaccinations, as if that's still 'the discussion' (or argument). You're entire 'discussion' has sunset months ago ... today
mask mandates, social distancing, shutdowns and, now even 'every 3 month boosters,' are the new expectation, even mandated.

Stop talking about the 2021 March-April discussion, and join the 2022 discusion! Join the criticism of all the CDC political moves to stop gathering useful statitics, and all the FDA experts who have left the US because they were overridden by the President. This thing isn't stopping, and the authoritarians aren't either!
Analogy: You guys are the literal retards -- as in the literal definition behind and unable to comprehend contemporary topics -- like talking about plasma TVs and CFL light bulbs, and think we're stupid for not getting them, when we've already moved on to 4K LED and LED light bulbs, and you're utterly not following why.

You're actually advocating more control, more death, less freedom,
thinking it's just about having 1 set of vaccines and never having to do anything, because you think you're allegedly 'protected' while 'free' -- at least from the standpoint of government mandates and control.
You're so 'out-of-touch' with the actual, real, current argument.
Brandon should fork you guys off a thread just for talking 2021Q1 viewpoints, because obviously you're incapable of understanding what many of us are dealing with in our jobs and lives.

And you say we're unemployed?!
Just WTF world are you guys living in where you're not exposed to this?!
 
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Except for a few high-profile politicians and celebrities, a majority of Americans have tried to do the right thing, publicly and privately.

Most normal people don't pay attention to the anti-vaxxer bullsh!t. Your "universe" of information is what you make it.
Because everything, from every researcher, doctor ... even long-standing FDA expert who differs with the President ... that doesn't 'tout the narrative' is being blasted as 'anti-vax.'

You guys are utter 3rd graders at this point, unreachable.

This is the essence of the problem ... we have a politician that believes the pandemic can end, and we won't have an endemic problem either, through repeat vaccination, with current, unmodified, unchanged, non-updated, vaccines.

And he's going to make sure you are forced to comply to his wishes, everything else be damned. Why? A campaign promise.

**** the truth. **** the FDA experts. **** the WHO. They're all anti-vaxxers. Welcome to the 100% Politics, 0% Science, world.
 
How does getting vaccinated yourself protect your loved ones?

Why do you bother asking questions? When you get factual answers you just move the goalposts and line up a dumbass strawman in response. This is the anti-vaxxer way - live in willful ignorance and block out the magnitude of data that refutes your position.
 
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ALL drugs have side-effects---which is why every single drug commercial ends with a litany of 'don't take if blah, blah, blah' disclaimers.

The Covid vaccines are safe for 99% of the population--which is why it received FDA approval.
But not like other vaccines prior, especially not the approval process. We're literally mandating things the FDA would never recommend, but they do not control things.

Just face it, these vaccines did not go through remotely any similar FDA process. Especially with the Boosters and 12-15/17, let alone 5-11. When the FDA balked, they were just overridden.

So now we're multi-jabbing over and over too. No one wants to admit that. But it's the truth. We literally put new leadership into the FDA, like we did prior at the CDC, to get what politicians want. The exodus and foreign publication is just the icing on the cake.

Again, even the outgoing FDA experts repeated their warnings about Pharma utterly not giving a flying **** about actually doing more research on kids, with more kids -- at least 10x more, as repeatedly requested -- despite many parents more than willing to have their kids tracked and studied.

Because Pharma doesn't want that. Why bother when you have blanket immunity? ****'em, honestly, **** the kids. That's our world now. ****'em. No studies. No statitics. Downplay everything. **** the kids. Let's just give them the smallpox vaccine while we're at it too.

No wonder so many researchers and doctors, let alone FDA and WHO, are utterly at a loss. We've never been this purposely and grossly irresponsible, all in the false narrative of stopping the spread, which isn't going to happen.

Especially in a category and age group that has gains no benefit from the vaccines, has no worse results from infection than any other coronavirus, but will live with any long-term issues from vaccination -- which, yes, can cause issues more than just the disease would -- as a result of doing jack in studies to actually understand the possible complications.

History will not remember the Mass Media and its mob sheep very well.
 
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Can't argue with the statistics and facts, can you?
No, I can’t argue with a 400lb, underachieving, IT specialist, indirect murdering, big Pharma, conspiracy theorist who has been proven wrong time and time again who tries to make believe that he’s an expert in this subject matter
 
But not like other vaccines prior, especially not the approval process. We're literally mandating things the FDA would never recommend, but they do not control things.

Just face it, these vaccines did not go through remotely any similar FDA process. And now we're multi-jabbing over and over too. No one wants to admit that. But it's the truth.

Heck, even the outgoing FDA experts repeated their warnings about Pharma utterly not giving a flying **** about actually doing more research on kids, with more kids, despite many parents more than willing to have their kids tracked and studied.

Because Pharma doesn't want that. Why bother when you have blanket immunity? ****'em, honestly, **** the kids. That's our world now. ****'em. No studies. No statitics. Downplay everything.

No wonder so many researchers and doctors, let alone FDA and WHO, are utterly at a loss. We've never been this purposely and grossly irresponsible, all in the false narrative of stopping the spread, which isn't going to happen.


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Why do you bother asking questions? When you get factual answers you just move the goalposts and line up a dumbass strawman in response. This is the anti-vaxxer way - live in willful ignorance and block out the magnitude of data that refutes your position.
I provided a link to the CDC saying that the vaccine doesn't stop you from spreading the virus. If that's true, it's a logical question to ask how your vaccination protects others.
 
How does getting vaccinated yourself protect your loved ones?
Why do you bother asking questions? When you get factual answers you just move the goalposts and line up a dumbass strawman in response. This is the anti-vaxxer way - live in willful ignorance and block out the magnitude of data that refutes your position.
Answer the ****ing question ... for once, so we know whether you're living in reality ... or eating up the proven bullshit narrative ...

Q: How does getting vaccinated -- let alone Boosting every 3 months -- yourself protect your loved ones?!

I can go back through all your posts, and see what you're still living in the proven bullshit narrative, like it's 2021 March/April.

Even Wuhan-1/Alpha secondary transmission wasn't reduced much at all, not remotely enough for effective, herd immunity, and it's jack with Delta/Omicron.

Welcome to reality!
 
My God. You would think the morbidly obese, unhealthy, sedentary, and sloth parade floats would get vaxxed up since they are first in line to die.
And you guys are 3rd graders still stuck in a 2021 March-April discussion and don't bother to admit you have been proven utterly wrong.

Stop spewing the easily disproven bullshit, and join the growing American populace, researchers, statisticians, even former FDA experts, let alone WHO, who are calling out a destructive, authoritartian, anti-freedom set of policies, and dangerous ones, that don't do anything.

What world do you guys live in? And you say we don't work?! That we don't deal with the real world?!
 
And you guys are 3rd graders still stuck in a 2021 March-April discussion and don't bother to admit you have been proven utterly wrong.

Stop spewing the easily disproven bullshit, and join the growing American populace, researchers, statisticians, even former FDA experts, let alone WHO, who are calling out a destructive, authoritartian, anti-freedom set of policies, and dangerous ones, that don't do anything.

What world do you guys live in? And you say we don't work?! That we don't deal with the real world?!
This has nothing to do with what I wrote, dough boy. Is your blood type Ragu?
 
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Answer the ****ing question ... for once, so we know whether you're living in reality ... or eating up the proven bullshit narrative ...

Q: How does getting vaccinated -- let alone Boosting every 3 months -- yourself protect your loved ones?!

I can go back through all your posts, and see what you're still living in the proven bullshit narrative, like it's 2021 March/April.

Even Wuhan-1/Alpha secondary transmission wasn't reduced much at all, not remotely enough for effective, herd immunity, and it's jack with Delta/Omicron.

Welcome to reality!
And you guys are 3rd graders still stuck in a 2021 March-April discussion and don't bother to admit you have been proven utterly wrong.

Stop spewing the easily disproven bullshit, and join the growing American populace, researchers, statisticians, even former FDA experts, let alone WHO, who are calling out a destructive, authoritartian, anti-freedom set of policies, and dangerous ones, that don't do anything.

What world do you guys live in? And you say we don't work?! That we don't deal with the real world?!


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Answer the ****ing question ... for once, so we know whether you're living in reality ... or eating up the proven bullshit narrative ...

Q: How does getting vaccinated -- let alone Boosting every 3 months -- yourself protect your loved ones?!
You mean getting one of the COVID vaccinations and a booster ISN'T minimizing the chances that me and my loved ones catch the COVID virus?

You mean this whole COVID thing is all one big, worldwide sham???


Getting vaccinated doesn't guarantee anybody from getting it -- but it helps prevent a severe case of it. That's kind of the way vaccines work. I got my flu vaccine today. My wife and I get one every year---bizarre, Huh? :rolleyes:

Again, when you're talking about MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people getting the shots, there may be somebody who gets vaccinated who still gets COVID and dies from the disease. And yes, 1 in a million may suffer one of its rare side-effects. But that's called Modern Medicine.
Welcome to reality!
SMH. You people say some of The Most Bizarre Things here.
 
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You mean getting one of the COVID vaccinations and a booster ISN'T minimizing the chances that me and my loved ones catch the COVID virus?

You mean this whole COVID thing is all one big, worldwide sham???


Getting vaccinated doesn't guarantee anybody from getting it -- but it helps prevent a severe case of it. That's kind of the way vaccines work. I got my flu vaccine today. My wife and I get one every year---bizarre, Huh? :rolleyes:

Again, when you're talking about MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people getting the shots, there may be somebody who gets vaccinated who still gets COVID and dies from the disease. And yes, 1 in a million may suffer one of its rare side-effects. But that's called Modern Medicine.

SMH. You people say some of The Most Bizarre Things here.
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You mean getting one of the COVID vaccinations and a booster ISN'T minimizing the chances that me and my loved ones catch the COVID virus?

You mean this whole COVID thing is all one big, worldwide sham???


Getting vaccinated doesn't guarantee anybody from getting it -- but it helps prevent a severe case of it. That's kind of the way vaccines work. I got my flu vaccine today. My wife and I get one every year---bizarre, Huh? :rolleyes:

Again, when you're talking about MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people getting the shots, there may be somebody who gets vaccinated who still gets COVID and dies from the disease. And yes, 1 in a million may suffer one of its rare side-effects. But that's called Modern Medicine.

SMH. You people say some of The Most Bizarre Things here.
This is all a mental issue. It’s all about some brainiac, underachiever, who failed miserably in life being insecure and desperately wanting someone to give him credit for ANYTHING. He’s totally insecure

With @Crazyhole , it’s all about loneliness. He’s looking for ANY human interaction and trying to live live through his fantasyland

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This is the literal problem with you guys ...

You are still talking about a single set of vaccinations, as if that's still 'the discussion' (or argument). You're entire 'discussion' has sunset months ago ... today
mask mandates, social distancing, shutdowns and, now even 'every 3 month boosters,' are the new expectation, even mandated.

Stop talking about the 2021 March-April discussion, and join the 2022 discusion! Join the criticism of all the CDC political moves to stop gathering useful statitics, and all the FDA experts who have left the US because they were overridden by the President. This thing isn't stopping, and the authoritarians aren't either!
Analogy: You guys are the literal retards -- as in the literal definition behind and unable to comprehend contemporary topics -- like talking about plasma TVs and CFL light bulbs, and think we're stupid for not getting them, when we've already moved on to 4K LED and LED light bulbs, and you're utterly not following why.

You're actually advocating more control, more death, less freedom,
thinking it's just about having 1 set of vaccines and never having to do anything, because you think you're allegedly 'protected' while 'free' -- at least from the standpoint of government mandates and control.
You're so 'out-of-touch' with the actual, real, current argument.
Brandon should fork you guys off a thread just for talking 2021Q1 viewpoints, because obviously you're incapable of understanding what many of us are dealing with in our jobs and lives.

And you say we're unemployed?!
Just WTF world are you guys living in where you're not exposed to this?!

It’s pretty sad isn’t it? The worst part is lack if informed consent. But to each his own.

We’ll all circle the wagons in a couple years and find out who was right and who was wrong on the poison jabs. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if a couple of the sheep in this forum kick off early or become immune compromised , especially as the boosters pile up

 
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It’s pretty sad isn’t it? The worst part is lack if informed consent. But to each his own.

We’ll all circle the wagons in a couple years and find out who was right and who was wrong on the poison jabs. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if a couple of the sheep in this forum kick off early or become immune compromised , especially as the boosters pile up

That right there is kind of an "oh, shit" study if it turns out to be true.
 
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