Obama wiretapped Trump Tower during election...
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WHERE YOU AT, BOOB?????
Of course, for boob this is FAKE NEWS!!! And what trump said is 110% true.
I'm not in the job of having evidence. That's what investigations are for.
"I'm not in the job of having evidence. That's what investigations are for."
Well any American Citizen who does international business could be wiretapped by the NSA. Section 702 of FISA allows the NSA to wiretap foreigners and collect information. Even with an American citizen on the other end, they can still listen and collect information without a warrant.
I don't believe Obama ever tapped Trump specifically, but the NSA could have information on Trump they collected from the example above.
I don't believe Obama ever tapped Trump specifically, but the NSA could have information on Trump they collected from the example above.
Even after Trump's interview with Tucker Carlson where he said new evidence would show he was. LOL
If Trump was smart he'd just quietly walk away from these allegations and not keep pressing it just to maybe prove he was right.
Trump overread a couple of news articles and then reacted to a right wing conspiracy theorist radio host.
Just be done with this and move onto your next battle.
Trump overread a couple of news articles and then reacted to a right wing conspiracy theorist radio host.
Just be done with this and move onto your next battle.
wow trump still claiming obama wire taps to be true even though he has presented zero evidence and congress, house, and intelligence committee have said there were none.
Please defend this conservatives LOL
Please defend this conservatives LOL
That's just it, he's proven time and time again that he can't accept when he's wrong. His megalomaniac need to always win and always be right is going to kill him in this job. His mouth and his never let it go attitude will be his downfall.
wow-- trump claimed the UK intelligence helped obama wire tap him during the campaign. UK already came out and owned trump, now trump has promised to not make such egregious claims again. Remember on page 1 when all the conservatives were defending trump as if this was true? lol
I'll defend it! It's been proven that Obama used the IRS, EPA and the DOJ against people. Why wouldn't he use other agencies?
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because there is zero evidence even now a few weeks later? You can't make such egregious allegations and just assume they are true. Trump read this on info wars and assumed it was true and now won't back down, even going as far as to implicate UK intelligence, which he got his pee pee slapped for this morning.
Truly shows how blind some conservatives are to still be standing behind this completely unfounded claim.
Did you know you can be a supporter of a political leader without agreeing with everything they do? lol
Yes and I don't blindly support Trump as you probably did Obama. But patterns of character mean something and Obama had a proven history of using government agencies as weapons against the American people.
lol yes you do. He didn't provide a single shred of evidence and still hasnt yet you believe him blindly. As a matter of reference I didn't vote for obama in 08.
Do you think 3 million illegals voted in the election too? Another claim trump made and failed to provide evidence as he said he would.
You speak of patterns and the current president sure has shown a pattern to blurt out random and insane conspiracy theories but has yet to prove a single one.
Uh, yes you do. You and boob are terrible.
To be fair, there's far too many accusations flying around without evidence and it's from both sides.
Take the so called Russia-Trump connection. It's been portrayed as fact and just a matter of time before the bombshell drops. But there's been no evidence whatsoever and Democrat leaders are starting to pull back and asking their base to temper expectations (Link). This is the problem with politics today. All of the energy is focused on accusations that have no basis instead of on the issues that matter. Then we wonder why the real problems are never addressed in Washington.
Take the so called Russia-Trump connection. It's been portrayed as fact and just a matter of time before the bombshell drops. But there's been no evidence whatsoever and Democrat leaders are starting to pull back and asking their base to temper expectations (Link). This is the problem with politics today. All of the energy is focused on accusations that have no basis instead of on the issues that matter. Then we wonder why the real problems are never addressed in Washington.
Trump clearly made this up for effect, for whatever insane reason he had at the time.
Much like the Democrats have completely fabricated this faux Trump/Russia conspiracy which so far has been proven with absolutely nothing.
Much like when Harry Reid used the Senate floor in 2012 to hurl conspiracy theory lies that Mitt Romney doesn't pay taxes without ever having to provide proof of this claim.
We live in an era when people can apparently say whatever line of shit they want, knowing the news cycle moves at such a warp speed pace that the lie will be old news within a week.
Much like the Democrats have completely fabricated this faux Trump/Russia conspiracy which so far has been proven with absolutely nothing.
Much like when Harry Reid used the Senate floor in 2012 to hurl conspiracy theory lies that Mitt Romney doesn't pay taxes without ever having to provide proof of this claim.
We live in an era when people can apparently say whatever line of shit they want, knowing the news cycle moves at such a warp speed pace that the lie will be old news within a week.
Agree, it's exacerbated by online news outlets whose revenue is generated by clicks. The juicier the rumor, the more clicks and revenue. The dossier of supposed Trump indiscretions is a perfect example. News outlets had it for months but didn't publish because it was absurd. Buzzfeed decides to publish and got millions of clicks because of it.
But you're doing it right there, it was proven that Obama's administration used the IRS against certain conservative groups seeking 401C3 status, it was proven that the Obama administration used the EPA against groups and companies to forward his agenda and it was proven that the Obama administration used the DOJ selectively to enforce laws he wanted and not enforce laws he did not want to enforce. So Obama had a history of using agencies against his adversaries. It was also showed that there were to FISA warrants requested by the Obama administration directed toward the incoming Trump administration. The pattern is there, you chose not to see it.
As for illegal voters, I can't say a number but it is much higher than libs would say but lower than 3,000,000 but I am willing to bet hundreds of thousands of votes are illegal in every national election. I've seen it first hand how buses in New York are used to move voters from polls too polls.
Hillary also runs an underground sex ring, I saw them busing in children with my own eyes, must be true.
all those are proven (per you), it should be easy to prove he wire tapped trump, especially since trump said it so convincingly and will not back down from it still -- yet zero evidence. Republican and democrats alike have come out and said its a baseless claim. UK our greatest ally is pissed off.
As for the voter fraud, still literally zero evidence to prove this true. Your anecdotal evidence provides little credibility given your staunch defensiveness all things conservative and trump. I believe I am right when I say the only person arrested for voting illegally was a trump supporter in wisconsin? lol. Its not just libs who think these voter fraud claims are outlandish, its every republican as well (except trump and trump supporters ofcourse).
Again, trump has a pattern (proven) of making wild conspiracy theory claims, telling us he'll provide evidence soon, and then just makes another wild accusation before every proving his previous one. And trump bros like you eat it up and believe it all to be 100% true 100% of the time.
So you're saying the IRS targeting and the EPA targeting are not true because I could swear that it was proven time and again. As for voter fraud, all I need to do is listen to the liberals tell me why they don't want voter ID and that is all I need to know that voter fraud is real. If you can give me a legitimate reason as to why voter ID should not be required, I'll buy into no voter fraud.
I guess you saw the people voting, getting on the bus, followed the bus to the next location and saw the people vote again. If you just saw a bus arriving with a bunch of people ready to vote, it could be one of the "get out the vote" buses that picked them up at their house/comm center to go to the polls
lol damn Sir G needs to be taken to the nearest burn unit stat.
What I witnessed was a bus full of people, around 40ish, file into the same voting precent I voted in and watched. In NY you don't need an ID, all you need is to say your name and your address, that is it. I watched one guy give his name, the precent person said that he "already voted." He said he had not so the precent person gave him a provisional ballot to fill out. Now that provisional ballot does not get counted unless the final vote is in recount, which is less than 1%. In NY that does not happen in a general election so either he was lying or the person who voted with his name lied. Either way it will never be proven and never be counted but it did happen. If I saw it in the 30 minutes I was in one polling place, I have no doubt it happens all day long across NYC.
Just some more examples
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2013/...-multiple-counts-of-obama-biased-voter-fraud/
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...als-Voter-Fraud-Election-Fraud-304185341.html
http://www.politicspa.com/philly-election-board-worker-arrested-for-voter-fraud/55372/
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/19/us/vote-fraud-ruling-shifts-pennsylvania-senate.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-fraud-idUSKCN12S213
http://ijr.com/2016/11/722025-14-ca...-this-year-and-its-not-even-election-day-yet/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-28/two-arrested-floridas-miami-dade-county-election-fraud
http://www.wsfa.com/story/34867206/southeast-al-mayor-arrested-on-voter-fraud-charges
http://www.nhregister.com/governmen...ina-ayala-arrested-on-19-voting-fraud-charges
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I guess this is BS, I mean alternative facts, then: "I've seen it first hand how buses in New York are used to move voters from polls too polls."
A more accurate statement would be: I saw people being bused in and vote without ID. BTW, ONE guy probably voted twice but his 2nd vote didn't count anyway
Well let me put it to you this way, my precent covers about five square blocks. When a bus pulls up to a voting precent that one could walk from end to end in less than ten minutes, I question the entire bus thing and where they are coming from.
Just tell us that browns and blacks were on the bus and that's what tipped you off. It's much more believable than this current bullshit story.
I never said that.
I said trump has made many, many claims that have zero basis in fact and has provided zero evidence. Some claims are stupid such as having the largest inauguration in history, some are downright dangerous -- voter fraud and obama wire taps. None have any evidence and REPUBLICANS have come out against all 3.
Literally zero people outside of trump, alex jones, and other conspiracy theorists think voter fraud is a thing or that obama has wire tapped trump.
So do you believe the president should be required to provide evidence for goof conspiracy theory tweets, or should we just believe everything he says (like you do)?
as for a legit reason why no voter ID is needed we could debate this all day. One is it is proven to discriminate against minority -- mostly democrat -- voters. Many ways they can do this -- make it too expensive, make it to hard to obtain, etc.
Just because one isn't required doesn't mean theres millions of illegals voting and just because you saw a bus pull up (allegedly) doesn't mean people voting on the bus were illegals voting.
Its been 6 months since the vote, how come trump has provided zero evidence of 3Million illegal voters even though he said he'd provide it soon? BEcause it doesn't exist except in his head.
Well you're an ignorant fool that has never spent time in NYC. Unless you're on the upper east side, there are not to many places you can walk in ten minutes that don't cover all types of people and all types of income. I'll stick to my point that seeing a bus with 40 or so people on it stop off at a voting district that cover five blocks is questionable. But hey Joe, I guess you know more about where I live than I do.
I'm picturing some crazy old man hiding behind a tree watching a bus full of people pull up, promptly pulling out his phone and texting all his "friends". The sad part is his friends are all rolling their eyes but feel bad so they give him words of encouragement. SAD!
These articles span decades and in each case represents only a handful of violations, mostly in local elections. Even when summed, it still doesn't even begin to touch on a number close to hundreds of thousands (let alone millions) in a single election. And since these folks are so easily caught doing only a handful of extra votes, it would seem a massive-scale voter fraud scheme would be even more easily snared.
As for the busload of folks in your precinct, maybe they're all snowbirds and came up to vote as a group from FL.
