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Obama wiretapped Trump Tower during election...

Tapped my phones = no
Tapped Trump tower = no
Obama ordered it = no
Somebody in Trump's team was recorded because he/she/it was talking over the phone with somebody under surveillance. We already know that Flynn was recorded because he was talking to the Russian Ambassador
Wrong, Trump Tower was targeted according to the report.
 
It's only the beginning. Someone ordered to have US citizens identified in these incidental recordings. If they were incidental there was no reason for US citizens to be identified and none of these recordings even involved Russia.
 
Tapped my phones = no
Tapped Trump tower = no
Obama ordered it = no
Somebody in Trump's team was recorded because he/she/it was talking over the phone with somebody under surveillance. We already know that Flynn was recorded because he was talking to the Russian Ambassador
And during the transition...I.e. After the election, not before.
 
LOL. Nunes spoke to Trump about it before telling the rest of the House Committee. Woops! Didn't he effectively leak information there? Tsk tsk.
 
LOL. Nunes spoke to Trump about it before telling the rest of the House Committee. Woops! Didn't he effectively leak information there? Tsk tsk.

Probably since he was sure the Democrats could again leak the info to newspapers first.
 
That's last weeks news...

Someone in the Obama Admin or Justice approved US citizens identities to be unmasked when they were incidentally recorded. It's not just a coincidence that all the identities unmasked were working for the Trump campaign and transition team.
 
That's last weeks news...

Someone in the Obama Admin or Justice approved US citizens identities to be unmasked when they were incidentally recorded. It's not just a coincidence that all the identities unmasked were working for the Trump campaign and transition team.
You're right. It's not just a coincidence.
 
Now it looks like it wasn't even people from Trump's campaign talking and may have been foreigners talking to foreigners and names were mentioned. I bet it is going to be "X called His wife and said he is glad Trump won". How is that for wiretapping Trump tower?
 
Now it looks like it wasn't even people from Trump's campaign talking and may have been foreigners talking to foreigners and names were mentioned. I bet it is going to be "X called His wife and said he is glad Trump won". How is that for wiretapping Trump tower?

Why were the names unmasked? It is very difficult to get names unmasked.
 
Bob - Obama didn't wiretap Trump Tower. Breathe.

Why do you take everything so literally? They didn't literally wiretap Trump Tower but they were surveilling Trump campaign and transition people. Why were they surveilling them? Why were their names unmasked? You guys are just terrified of where this is heading. If it ends up being nothing, then it is. At this point though it likely won't be. It is against the law to unmask the identities of US citizens incidentally caught up in surveillance of foreigners.
 
Why do you take everything so literally? They didn't literally wiretap Trump Tower but they were surveilling Trump campaign and transition people. Why were they surveilling them? Why were their names unmasked? You guys are just terrified of where this is heading. If it ends up being nothing, then it is. At this point though it likely won't be. It is against the law to unmask the identities of US citizens incidentally caught up in surveillance of foreigners.

Yes, I'm terrified. [roll]
 
Yes, I'm terrified. [roll]

You should be. I know I am. This is Soviet era, banana republic stuff. Our country prides itself on peaceful transitions of power. If any of this is true, the Obama administration was purposefully spying on and sabotaging an incoming administration. That is a huge blow to what our country stands for.
 
You should be. I know I am. This is Soviet era, banana republic stuff. Our country prides itself on peaceful transitions of power. If any of this is true, the Obama administration was purposefully spying on and sabotaging an incoming administration. That is a huge blow to what our country stands for.

You blow my mind everyday sir, every. damn. day.
 
You should be. I know I am. This is Soviet era, banana republic stuff. Our country prides itself on peaceful transitions of power. If any of this is true, the Obama administration was purposefully spying on and sabotaging an incoming administration. That is a huge blow to what our country stands for.
How? they were listening to communications between foreigners and somebody mentioned Trump or one of his team (probably a "did you hear what X said? It is so stupid"). I haven't seen anything that points to "the Obama administration was purposefully spying on and sabotaging an incoming administration."
 
Unmasking the identity of a US citizen incidentally heard/seen/read in surveillance of foreigners is illegal. Why were they unmasking the identity of the US citizens? Why we're the only US citizens unmasked working on the Trump campaign or transition?
 
Unmasking the identity of a US citizen incidentally heard/seen/read in surveillance of foreigners is illegal. Why were they unmasking the identity of the US citizens? Why we're the only US citizens unmasked working on the Trump campaign or transition?
Even Nunes holds that nothing illegal happened. If some anti-American spy is being monitored and they mention a US Citizen name, then they're going to come up. If they were talking to anti-American factions, then that's on them for getting into that mess.

Maybe Trump campaign lackeys were the only ones talking to adversaries to the United States. I'm glad the Patriots in the FBI and NSA are committed to figuring this out.
 
Even Nunes holds that nothing illegal happened. If some anti-American spy is being monitored and they mention a US Citizen name, then they're going to come up. If they were talking to anti-American factions, then that's on them for getting into that mess.

Maybe Trump campaign lackeys were the only ones talking to adversaries to the United States. I'm glad the Patriots in the FBI and NSA are committed to figuring this out.
You clearly have a weak understanding of the law. The listening in MAY have been legal but letting the name of the private American citizen out is a felony.
 
Even Nunes holds that nothing illegal happened. If some anti-American spy is being monitored and they mention a US Citizen name, then they're going to come up. If they were talking to anti-American factions, then that's on them for getting into that mess.

Maybe Trump campaign lackeys were the only ones talking to adversaries to the United States. I'm glad the Patriots in the FBI and NSA are committed to figuring this out.

Then maybe those "patriots" should have wiretapped Obama and Kerry since they did a backroom deal with the largest anti-American government in the world who happens to be the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world.

One that has killed thousands of US troops in the past 15 years while Russia has killed exactly 0.
 
Even Nunes holds that nothing illegal happened. If some anti-American spy is being monitored and they mention a US Citizen name, then they're going to come up. If they were talking to anti-American factions, then that's on them for getting into that mess.

Maybe Trump campaign lackeys were the only ones talking to adversaries to the United States. I'm glad the Patriots in the FBI and NSA are committed to figuring this out.

If there was ANYTHING damaging to Trump or his administration in this surveillance it would have already been leaked by Obama surrogates.
 
Soooo....

You guys are still fully backing this traitor, his traitor administration, and the Republican Congress who refuse to investigate the traitor because it will make them look bad?
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/...igh-crimes-and-misdemeanors-by-Trump-Sessions

Only a matter of time before he is impeached but Republicans refuse to act. They'll go down with the Titanic, too.

When you link to Daily ****ing Kos I remind you that you're a dickless twerp who cried in a circle jerk and vowed to leave here, and is now lying about this to stick around.

Feb 28 is long past. Go away, cry baby.
 
When you link to Daily ****ing Kos I remind you that you're a dickless twerp who cried in a circle jerk and vowed to leave here, and is now lying about this to stick around.

Feb 28 is long past. Go away, cry baby.

You must have just jizzed on your wife within seconds of penetration again. Stop being so angry, take some deep breaths, and maybe you'll do better next time and you won't have to cry again.
 
I saw the kos link and almost spit out my beer. If you are using that as a source you're dumber than I thought and I didn't give you much intelligence in the first place.
 
At least it proves that chemmie reads nothing but extremist left wing blogs.
 
Now we'll get 3 pages about the freaking link to avoid the topic
 
Lol. I'm going to go get some Blaze articles. The content has to be discussed though, not the source.
 
There's a failure in logic here. The FBI was investigating the Trump campaign since July 2016, looking for a connection to Russia in relation to the election. But there's zero surveillance of the Trump campaign and it's ludicrous to think so? Either the FBI in inept or someone is obfuscating the truth.
 
There's a failure in logic here. The FBI was investigating the Trump campaign since July 2016, looking for a connection to Russia in relation to the election. But there's zero surveillance of the Trump campaign and it's ludicrous to think so? Either the FBI in inept or someone is obfuscating the truth.
But why continue the surveillance after the election if they found nothing, which is what they have at this time?
 
There's a failure in logic here. The FBI was investigating the Trump campaign since July 2016, looking for a connection to Russia in relation to the election. But there's zero surveillance of the Trump campaign and it's ludicrous to think so? Either the FBI in inept or someone is obfuscating the truth.
First: Dumb said "Obama was wiretapping Dumb tower". Answer: nobody was wiretapping (or had Dumb tower under surveillance)
Second: I'm guessing at the beginning they (FBI, etc) were looking at the Russians trying to influence the election and only recently the campaign is being investigated. Or the FBI was too busy investigating Clinton's emails and had the Russian investigation in the back burner until the s hit the fan with the tweets?
 
I saw the kos link and almost spit out my beer. If you are using that as a source you're dumber than I thought and I didn't give you much intelligence in the first place.
Not only that, it's a link to a HuffPo reporter, with the Kos writer actually disproving some facts, yet still holding it as gospel. I've read the whole Trump/Manafort/Rosneft theory before, but only on far left-leaning sites. I've yet to see anything credible on it. It almost reads like those that publish 9/11 "truther" BS.
 
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I again remind everyone that during the campaign, when WikiLeaks was dumping Podesta's emails every day, there was a collective yawn by the media and even the Democrats. Absolutely no one was outraged or calling for investigations, mostly because every poll had HRC up by 10% and the emails were doing little to sway those polls.

It wasn't until after the election that this became a hysteria and urgent "national crisis". Apparently John Podesta being shitty at cyber security is a crisis.

Also, left wing mouthpieces like Robert Reich were busy tossing conspiracy theories like James Comey was conspiring with the Trump campaign.
 
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