Russian invasion into Ukraine is imminent
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More useless, background, nonsense that can’t be debated from the unemployed, uneducated, celibate loser
The world despises us because we are full of weak, freeloaders living off of the government
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This is the kind of response that any parent can recognize. Yeah, you're an adult but you still act like a child that wants attention and will use tantrums to get it. Just make an ass out of yourself and mom will have no choice but to put down her vodka bottle and deal with you.
😂😂😂😂😂. Tell us more!!
I have a lot of anxiety about this christmas. After 2 suicidal episodes this year I am really uncomfortable with the idea of being around the in-laws. This year has also brought about changes with my girls. I got divorced 8 years ago and had full custody of my kids until this year. They moved in with their mom in january and things have been pretty difficult between us since then. Nobody, including my wife, has been terribly supportive of what I've been dealing with this year and I've been putting on a happy face whenever I'm asked how things are going because when I'm honest it makes things worse. I'm just tired of it and now its going to be in my face for the next few days. Nobody understands but everybody has a solution.
Sorry to vent. Merry christmas to everyone"
Exactly. You act out to get attention. Waaaah! Mommy come and focus on me!!!!!
As an adult, it's really unimpressive for you to continue acting this way.
The best conditions for a chemical dispersion would be night, light steady wind, fully overcast. Rain would tear any cloud apart, as would anything more than a light breeze. The advanced modeling that DTRA, DHS, the DoD, etc. use will attempt to predict dispersions to concentrations far below dangerous levels for a lot of chemicals. This is gas in the air which is a danger to unprotected personnel who the cloud passes through. This does not account for settled agent that is then stirred up later. Generally, we don't worry about modeling settled with most industrial materials.
I have seen experiments at Dugway where a generator is put out in the desert and the resulting vapor agent is measured in a huge area representing about a 45 degree pie slice out for kilometers. Which is scary for very contagious bio agents or persistent chemical agents. NH3 isn’t persistent, though, and so in a chaotic environment is going to likely behave the way that you observed. Of course, we don’t know how large the container was and the volume of release. Nor do we know what else is present. NH3 vapor can be explosive when mixed with other vapors and that may also play a role. Bottom line, your initial response should be safe-sided and then you assess and adjust from there.
Something like anhydrous ammonia might allow them to occupy without a huge decon. I wouldn't think that it would be the agent of choice for an attack. If they did use it, there wouldn't just be one event. I think it'd be something like sprayer trucks driving lines at the extent of the area and letting the wind blow it on in. This sounds more like an accident or the Russians happened to hit a tank and cause a spill.
As for nukes, our forces prepare to manage the consequences of a number of nuclear and radiological events. If we're prepping for it, then it means that we think it makes sense to someone given the totality of possible conditions.
I have a lot of anxiety about this christmas. After 2 suicidal episodes this year I am really uncomfortable with the idea of being around the in-laws. This year has also brought about changes with my girls. I got divorced 8 years ago and had full custody of my kids until this year. They moved in with their mom in january and things have been pretty difficult between us since then. Nobody, including my wife, has been terribly supportive of what I've been dealing with this year and I've been putting on a happy face whenever I'm asked how things are going because when I'm honest it makes things worse. I'm just tired of it and now its going to be in my face for the next few days. Nobody understands but everybody has a solution.
Sorry to vent. Merry christmas to everyone"
Just going off of memory that probably isn't totally accurate, but I want to say it was 40,000 gallons plus or minus. I do remember the weather pretty vividly, it was mid 60s and light rain but really no wind. Pretty overcast.
Just going off of memory that probably isn't totally accurate, but I want to say it was 40,000 gallons plus or minus. I do remember the weather pretty vividly, it was mid 60s and light rain but really no wind. Pretty overcast.
Light rain and no wind means the plume would’ve likely spread circularly and stayed pretty close to the location of the spill. If there was an explosion then some of it would’ve been propelled by the explosions but, absent any wind, the rest would’ve stayed localized. The concentration (vapor in the air over time) and surface deposition models would look like a gobstopper with the center at the spill location. If there was fire involved, it would change a lot as well.
An ammonia nurse tank will have between 1000 and 2000 gallons generally (sits on a trailer for transport). Distributors will often have much larger stores, from 6 million to 24 million gallons. A typical 6 million gallon pressurized tank has a diameter of about 120 feet and is about 60 feet tall. A catastrophic failure of one of those would be quite the spill.
This was a distribution hub. I'll have to ask my dad if he remembers how many gallons of storage the tank had but I'm pretty sure it wasn't nearly 120 x 60. Maybe I'll drive out there and measure the pad it sat on but I don't think it was that large.
No respectful person can take a suicidal pro-Russian person seriously
I have a lot of anxiety about this christmas. After 2 suicidal episodes this year I am really uncomfortable with the idea of being around the in-laws. This year has also brought about changes with my girls. I got divorced 8 years ago and had full custody of my kids until this year. They moved in with their mom in january and things have been pretty difficult between us since then. Nobody, including my wife, has been terribly supportive of what I've been dealing with this year and I've been putting on a happy face whenever I'm asked how things are going because when I'm honest it makes things worse. I'm just tired of it and now its going to be in my face for the next few days. Nobody understands but everybody has a solution.
Sorry to vent. Merry christmas to everyone"
Love how you highlighted the part that you did. Is it "respectful" or "respectable"? Not that it matters because neither apply in your case, but its still kind of funny.
It’s really both. You’re a pathetic, lonely, celibate loser. You have no friends and no life. Another 16+ hour day in the WC posting irrelevant BS background noise.
I just really enjoy seeing a country beat the hell out of corrupt Nazis. I'll post about that 24/7.
As always, we'll see. For now, let's just wait for the facts.
Sort of like waiting to hear about the one confirmed death from the maternity hospital bombing?
There's no doubt that a war is going on, but the agit-prop is at max capacity at this point.
We all know that you will. You are pathetic and have no life.
I have a lot of anxiety about this christmas. After 2 suicidal episodes this year I am really uncomfortable with the idea of being around the in-laws. This year has also brought about changes with my girls. I got divorced 8 years ago and had full custody of my kids until this year. They moved in with their mom in january and things have been pretty difficult between us since then. Nobody, including my wife, has been terribly supportive of what I've been dealing with this year and I've been putting on a happy face whenever I'm asked how things are going because when I'm honest it makes things worse. I'm just tired of it and now its going to be in my face for the next few days. Nobody understands but everybody has a solution.
Sorry to vent. Merry christmas to everyone"
I have a lot of anxiety about this christmas. After 2 suicidal episodes this year I am really uncomfortable with the idea of being around the in-laws. This year has also brought about changes with my girls. I got divorced 8 years ago and had full custody of my kids until this year. They moved in with their mom in january and things have been pretty difficult between us since then. Nobody, including my wife, has been terribly supportive of what I've been dealing with this year and I've been putting on a happy face whenever I'm asked how things are going because when I'm honest it makes things worse. I'm just tired of it and now its going to be in my face for the next few days. Nobody understands but everybody has a solution.
Sorry to vent. Merry christmas to everyone"
I have a lot of anxiety about this christmas. After 2 suicidal episodes this year I am really uncomfortable with the idea of being around the in-laws. This year has also brought about changes with my girls. I got divorced 8 years ago and had full custody of my kids until this year. They moved in with their mom in january and things have been pretty difficult between us since then. Nobody, including my wife, has been terribly supportive of what I've been dealing with this year and I've been putting on a happy face whenever I'm asked how things are going because when I'm honest it makes things worse. I'm just tired of it and now its going to be in my face for the next few days. Nobody understands but everybody has a solution.
Sorry to vent. Merry christmas to everyone"
For those of us objective Americans, we can be critical of Ukraine, while still being against Russia and Putin.
Thanks for sharing, interesting hearing multiple perspectives... I lost faith in news/info sources years ago, so mainly debate on principle and philosophy.
Side note, she mentioned Putin's goddaughter is Ukraine-ian twice to emphasize relatives exist between Ukraine & Russia... 2 of my children have unrelated godparents, so that is an invalid assumption/example.
She got dressed down pretty hard there - and rightfully so. America is great because you are free to have whatever opinion you want, and others are free to draw inferences and form opinions of you as a result. That feedback loop is an important part of maintaining 1st Amendment Rights. But we'd probably agree that the dialogue in that conversation was better than prime time cable news for sure.
Of course you are free to be critical of Ukraine - but keep in mind timing. It's like living in a neighborhood where consensus exists that a particular kid is a bully. If you walk outside and see said bully with a kid pinned to the ground getting punched, your objective is to stop the violence. In the moment of crisis, that's the only thing that anyone cares about. No one in the neighborhood wants to listen to someone explain how the kid getting punched actually deserves part of the blame. Maybe that's true, and the time for that discussion will happen. It's just not now. And if you insist on having that conversation while the kid get is getting punched, expect people to judge you.
Honestly she did a terrible job. She was blaming the west for the Maidan Revolution, which completely strips Ukraine of their agency. It'd be like if the British blamed the French for the American Revolution.
Now is when Democracy means everything, it's the perfect time for sleight-of-logic.
Just like Blue states claiming they need to 'stop' alleged 'Republican geremanding' by increasing the number of signatures required by 3-5x (and that made similiar moves on finance back in 2019) ... which does nothing to stop Republicans, but definitely does hurt Greens, Libertarians and other 3rd parties!
Z is doing the same sh-- to opposition parties in Ukraine.
So if I go-out-of-my-way to also punch two other, even weaker, neighborhood kids ... first ... before I even stop the bully, before no one is supposed to give a ****, right?!
That's exactly the problem! "Never let a good crisis go to waste." This is everything I cannot stand about the Progressive attitude movement in the US. It's how Lenin and Hitler were 'made.'
This is not merely about blame. This is about Z going out of his way to punch two other, even weaker, neighborhood kids ... first.
But you'll be happy to note Twitter and YouTube have been censoring her, along with Rising, regularly. They are hardly Trump supporters either.
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Actually ... the French were pretty involved with our Revolution and the British did blame the French (and Spanish)! That's why the British Crown quickly re-kindled relations with the US.
Heck, it was the international trading corporations of the British Crown, and their own wars that dragged in the financing of the Crown, against French, Spanish even Dutch and other merchant interests, who now needed money, that were telling the British Crown to tax the colonies, and even conspiring to take over the colonies.
The French too were working with the Spanish to do the same to us! The French had minimal gains, and the Spanish were looking to leaverage the French to regain more than they did too. Most specifically ...
The original, preliminary agreement that became the eventual Treaty of Paris of 1783 (similiar to the original design of the Peace of Paris of 1763, had the French and Spanish won), even made the US a protectorate of the French, and under French adminsitration, which would not only put the French in charge of land re-distribution, but ... what the Spanish were most adamant about ...
The fear that the new US would still make British trade a priority over Franco-Spanish interests, right in the 'American backyard' ... and they were right!
Of course ole' Benjamin Franklin made it perfectly clear what that would lead to with the French, should they insist on it. That finally put an end to it, and the US became it's own nation.
Just like we were with undermining Ukrainian democracy 2008-2014. That was finally the end of it in 2014. Even the EU complained to the Obama administration how much our lobbyists and their career politicians were interfering at that point.
Some of you guys really do not know your history of Ukraine, do you? You do understand all but Trump's name, or those directly associated with Trump later on (after 2014), were redacted from the Russian report, correct? There was a reason for that.
Seriously guys, know your ****ing history, not the textbook non-sense.
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Look - Zelensky is a wartime president dealing with an invading force that's resorting to siege warfare. This is some medieval shit going on. Meanwhile, we're sitting here at our desks pounding Cheetos and Code Red and back-seat driving his nation's sovereign right to operate under martial law per their own rules.
Again - criticize away - lots of Americans have died to protect your right to do so. But we have a 250 year history as a nation filled with screw ups and lessons learned and - as you'll be the first to point out - we still screw up. Ukraine left the Soviet Union by referendum in '91. They've have 40 years of ups and downs trying to figure this out, the last 20 of which have involved Vlad and his oligarchs next door corrupting everything they can.
So yea - I think it's breath wasting to argue about civil liberties in Ukraine 4 weeks into a hostile invasion. I'll be far more interested in the post-war status quo. What do civil liberties look like under Russian occupation? What do civil liberties look like if Ukraine wins? If Zelensky declares himself dictator for life that's going to worry me a lot more than fog-of-war national security decisions made against a background of air-raid sirens and civilian deaths.
That does not give him the right to remove opposition parties. He should embrace them and maintain an union government in a time of war. They are against the Russians too. They have pledged their support to him.
But nope ... Z's gonna serve Z's interest. No, sorry, he needs to be called out on it! Sorry, but truth! He doesn't get to destroy his political opponents. Z did it because he could!
Stop giving the Ukranian leadership a 'blank cheque.' He desires a lot of sympathy and understanding, yes. But this? It's a power grab, pure and simple. He knows the Russian defeat is just a matter of time now, and he's using the moment to solidify power.
As far as your ignorance of our Revolutionary War ...
Just like Bejamin Franklin called out the French and Spainish in the Treaty of Paris 1783 that was basically a repeat of what the French and Spanish would have demanded of the British -- including the (now) United States -- in the Peace of Paris 1763.
I know Americans like to act like our little revolution was us alone, but had everything to do with the French and Indian (including Spanish) war, right down to the West Indies and Hudson Bay companies expecting the thirteen (13) Crown Chartered, Corporate Commonwealths to either 'pay up' or 'be taken over.'
Parliament, well 'paid off' by those merchant mega-corps, were all-in on it too ... especially since the undeveloped lands were going to new royalty. That's not only what led to our revolution, and the British self-interest, but the 'revenge' the French and Spanish wanted ... and got.
SIDE NOTE: A lot of French died for us, especially privateers, who were never paid. We defaulted on our debts to a lot of private French, Dutch and other investors, even some Spanish.
Wake the **** up. We've been ****ing with Ukraine since 2008 thru 2014, even on-behalf of the Russians. We don't get to 'wash our hands clean.' And we don't want Z to use this event to 'clean out' his political opponents. He has their support. He did not need to do this! Far from it!
This is why Washington warned us to stay out of European affairs.
