"The Steele Dossier on Trump is the only thing you should read. He's the Russian Puppet." *
Russian invasion into Ukraine is imminent
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@Cubs79, while I generally agree with the spirit of what you say here, @Crazyhole is not wrong. Because when it comes right down to it, Putin is only guilty of the suggestion of improprietary because of 'gain,' and ... reality check here ... Hillary is the same.
I.e., we cannot point to Putin himself, even if there's good evidence of people around him. But ... we have a similar reality with several cases of Hillary too. I know you feel it's not 1:1, and I agree with you. But still, the point from @Crazyhole is valid.
And we look like hypocrites at times, especially how much we interfere and do similar things. I cannot emphasize that enough, because it's how people like Putin rise to power ... like Hitler, let alone McCarthy.
I'm honestly tired of the McCarthy's running around right now. You're one of them. Progressives are the new Conservatives. It's the attitude that got JFK and, then even worse, LBJ into Vietnam too.
Hillary lost all considerations from me when she used the DoJ against the FBI, and so we had a complete case of a classified spillage we purposely wouldn't let the FBI 'clean up.' It's how she's always approached everything too ...
From simple Travel Gate to investments to the, now, over 30 people being criminal prosecuted for allowing her personal servers to infect and utterly compromise not only the State Department, but other Federal Agencies.
And yes, that's proven. Luckily, unlike the FBI, there were other 'audit systems' involved, and ... the watchdogs on the Internet who caught most things 'in real time.' Her servers were repeatedly compromised, so much so that TrendMicro had a full record too.
She ordered people to turn of TrendMicro, knowingly infecting not only the State Department, but other Agencies. She's off free. Those people are going to jail. She has immunity. They, low-level IT people, do not.
This is why I say 'no,' and don't care who I f-over at times. I will suffer my fate and not be criminally negligent. And I'm not alone.
From simple Travel Gate to investments to the, now, over 30 people being criminal prosecuted for allowing her personal servers to infect and utterly compromise not only the State Department, but other Federal Agencies.
And yes, that's proven. Luckily, unlike the FBI, there were other 'audit systems' involved, and ... the watchdogs on the Internet who caught most things 'in real time.' Her servers were repeatedly compromised, so much so that TrendMicro had a full record too.
She ordered people to turn of TrendMicro, knowingly infecting not only the State Department, but other Agencies. She's off free. Those people are going to jail. She has immunity. They, low-level IT people, do not.
This is why I say 'no,' and don't care who I f-over at times. I will suffer my fate and not be criminally negligent. And I'm not alone.
You think it is a coincidence that so many Putin critics have been murdered, several using a poison developed in Russia? I mean, sure, I suppose it is possible someone is doing it behind his back, who also has access to Russian chemical agents, but quite a stretch to actuall believe that.
Kremlin’s murder of opponents can’t be accepted as new global norm | Trudy Rubin
Putin's presumed involvement in the poisoning of opponent Alexei Navalny tests NATO and Trump.
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Dude, nobody is saying the Clinton's were angels. But the same people who think anyone who dies who has ever met the Clintons somehow means they were killed by the Clintons, now think that Putin has never hurt anyone despite the fact that numerous Putin critics have been killed over the years.
You just made my point for me. Is it a coincidence that so many people surrounding the Clintons have died in unusual ways and under questionable circumstances? Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me, but we are told to believe the same level of conspiracy theory about RussiaYou think it is a coincidence that so many Putin critics have been murdered, several using a poison developed in Russia? I mean, sure, I suppose it is possible someone is doing it behind his back, who also has access to Russian chemical agents, but quite a stretch to actuall believe that.
Kremlin’s murder of opponents can’t be accepted as new global norm | Trudy Rubin
Putin's presumed involvement in the poisoning of opponent Alexei Navalny tests NATO and Trump.
You don't know the Clintons. Seriously. They ran Arkansas for 20 years. Why he ever ran for President, I have no idea. That really took away their 'freedom.' **
This is from news correspondents who are major Democrats. They were, essentially, killers and rapists in Arkansas. I cannot emphasize this enough. They just didn't pull the triggers, and Hillary cleaned up Bill's 'misunderstandings' on 'no.'
Jennifer Flowers and others were pretty small potato. She basically made it just look like affairs, instead of the really bad stuff. The actual sexual assaults and batteries.
That's also why Benghazi really didn't bother me even 1/100th as much.
Hillary didn't basically want her subordinate gone at all. Sure, she wanted -- and even the CIA were shocked -- to cover her @$$ on it after. And she and her staff lied to the press. But she didn't want anyone dead at all. That's also why she was pissed at the investigations.
I mean, if you basically blackmailed and destroys lives, driving people to suicide or even pushing others to possibly do it for them ... wouldn't you look at Benghazi and say what she did? That's what always stuck out in my mind.
So I cannot say the same about many other people around them prior, especially back in Arkansas. Hillary spent her first 6-9 months being 'rudely awoken.' And Bill's dick was under constant limitation. He was used to getting whatever pussy he could. **
And sometimes even 'forced himself on,' prior.
**KEY POINT: Understand that the reason Trump and his staff didn't know they had hired a domestic abuser -- who still passed OPM/FBI investigations, because even his ex-wife, who was abused, said he wasn't a national security risk -- in their administration is because it was against the law to know. I.e., it was because of the Clintons having access to and using OPM and FBI files, including full SF86 forms and SSBIs, against their political enemies, that it was outlawed henceforth. That's just 'how they operated' in Arkansas prior, which is why they were always compared to Nixon once they went national ... especially Hillary. Bill just wanted pussy. Again, talk to any news regional correspondent that knew of them in Arkansas. They don't air this publicly for a reason.
Again, that's how this works with powerful people. It's not them who kill, but those around them. It's kinda ... 'expected.'
There nearly 3 dozen ****ed IT security people in the US State Department right now, criminally. People who said 'no' to Hillary, and stupidly remained in the jobs, instead of GTFO like the smart ones.
I've been there. The "Do you know who I am?" types.
And my answer always was, "It's precisely because of who you are, I'm trying to protect you ... and even if I don't, everyone else here ... from yourself."
Because when you've personally blackmailed and ****ed over people enough that they either kill themselves, or worse, what you did on a Blackberry and led to the total compromise of multiple agencies, really is 'small potatoes' in the grand scheme of things.
I always liked what Colin Powell said (allegedly) after Hillary threw him under-the-bus over e-mail at State. I mean, Powell used DoD and security State systems when required, period.
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How many people around the Clintons have died in unusual ways? Vince Foster killed himself, not really that unusual to be honest, especially considering he was being treated for depression. Epstein also killed himself, also not unusual considering he was basically just looking at a life of getting his ass kicked in prison. But Epstein also had connections to other powerful people, including Trump. So even if you think there was a conspiracy surrounding his death, why does it lead to the Clintons and not to Trump? Dershowitz? Or any of the other powerful people he was associated with. I dont view this these types of things at all like someone being poisoned, or thrown out of a window, I just dont.
You seriously don't think this conspiracy is limited to Vince foster and Jeffery Epstein do you?
No, but conspiracies can be about anything. The thing about conspiracy theories, is that you dont really have to have proof or evidence for them to spread around and people to treat them as fact. I think Hannity tried to tie Seth Rich to the Clintons. Seth Rich was basically a voter outreach guy with the DNC, he had no significant power and there was no evidence the Clinton's had anything to do with this death, but of course, even a mainstream network like Fox tried to throw that idea out there.
Now reverse your political ideology and consider how you would think about issues like this.
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Wow. Turns out it is true.
Putin's Bombers Could Devastate Ukraine But He's Holding Back. Here's Why
The Russian leader has to keep destruction and pressure at a very careful, just-bad-enough level to not draw in NATO but push Ukraine to negotiate.
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This is a very interesting read, several differing opinions included in it. I found this one to be particularly curious:
"I know that the news keeps repeating that Putin is targeting civilians, but there is no evidence that Russia is intentionally doing so," says the DIA analyst. "In fact, I'd say that Russian could be killing thousands more civilians if it wanted to."
Putin's Bombers Could Devastate Ukraine But He's Holding Back. Here's Why
The Russian leader has to keep destruction and pressure at a very careful, just-bad-enough level to not draw in NATO but push Ukraine to negotiate.
This is a very interesting read, several differing opinions included in it. I found this one to be particularly curious:
"I know that the news keeps repeating that Putin is targeting civilians, but there is no evidence that Russia is intentionally doing so," says the DIA analyst. "In fact, I'd say that Russian could be killing thousands more civilians if it wanted to."
You'd think so. The fact that they haven't taken out Ukraines electric grid or communications seems odd.
Biden, like Trump, appeals to his media base. Why? Demonizing Russia is popular in the US.
And people wonder why it's so easy to get the Russian populace to think little of us?
Still, grounds for a cease-fire, even a state-type MOU, to get the cease-fire.
