The arrogance of these UF and Nebraska fans

[KISA]

They act like if we come a calling for Frost he is ours and if we don't come a calling then we obviously didn't want him and went in a different direction. I hope he stays at UCF and UF and Nebraska are really butt hurt in December or January

 

[KnightVision82]

GOL use to talk about the promise that you make to your recruits. There are more factors than just the money that a lot of these fans forget. Making 2+ million at UCF is a lot less stressful for him than going into UF or Nebraska and he's enjoying the campus. The time will come when he will leave to take his final retirement check but it hasn't come yet. Those programs will have to throw their money in another direction.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

A successful coach at UCF can make more than Frost is currently making. O'Leary had a higher salary than Frost does currently. There is probably room to move him up to closer to 3 mil per year. Does 10 years at 3 mil per year plus incentives beat 4 years at 4-5 million a year and pressure of being canned if he fails to bring home a national title at a blue blood? I mean there is talk that Jim Harbaugh is now on the hot seat in his 3rd season at 7-2 after back to back 10 wins seasons. The expectations of the blue blood programs are unrealistic. Only one team can win a national championship in a given year but there are 10-15 programs (Nebraska and Florida included) who accept nothing less.

 

[KnightVision82]

I don't see Frost as someone who jumps quickly at next opportunity. There's coaches around him (AAC) even now who went up quickly only to be pushed back down after 2-3 years. Frost will always have that dilemma of being that offensive mind who needs a really good defense to keep him winning big. Does he know for certain that his friend, our DC will follow him around? Again, there's a lot of variables going on with leaving here besides the money. Frost has had good mentors and will do it the right way when he leaves.

 

[Square Knight]

I thought this photo was kind of funny considering the current talk...

 

[SublimeKnight]

A successful coach at UCF can make more than Frost is currently making. O'Leary had a higher salary than Frost does currently. There is probably room to move him up to closer to 3 mil per year. Does 10 years at 3 mil per year plus incentives beat 4 years at 4-5 million a year and pressure of being canned if he fails to bring home a national title at a blue blood? I mean there is talk that Jim Harbaugh is now on the hot seat in his 3rd season at 7-2 after back to back 10 wins seasons. The expectations of the blue blood programs are unrealistic. Only one team can win a national championship in a given year but there are 10-15 programs (Nebraska and Florida included) who accept nothing less.

And the "with cause" section of contracts is really getting worked. McElwain said his players received death threats: Fired with cause, unless you produce the text messages. Tennessee had a player that appeared to have played with a concussion, they'll likely use that to fire their coach with cause.

So you can't even look at these P5 jobs as guaranteed money. If you aren't winning, they'll find away to do it with cause now.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

I don't think Frost goes anywhere without his "band". The fact that he needs them might be a sign that he isn't ready. Great coaches at the elite levels need to be able to rotate in new coaches all the time, either due to performance or their assistants getting HC gigs themselves. Scott has ZERO experience with that.

 

[SCKnight]

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Didn't Nebraska and Florida have a chance to get Scott Frost like 3-4 years ago?

 

[muckdawg24]

A successful coach at UCF can make more than Frost is currently making. O'Leary had a higher salary than Frost does currently.

You sure about that? O'Leary made just under 2 million (1.89) before he left. Frosty is making 2 million now.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-oleary-57th-highest-paid-coach-fbs/73883078/

 

[SADUCFKNIGHT17]

Nebraska has treated Frost like garbage and UF isn’t what it used to be. He’s going nowhere.*

 

[Van Gogh's Starry Knight]

I said it before, and I'll say it again: Florida is the new Nebraska

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

I wouldn't go that far. Florida will be back. Probably sooner rather than later. Nebraska? Nope.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

They act like if we come a calling for Frost he is ours and if we don't come a calling then we obviously didn't want him and went in a different direction. I hope he stays at UCF and UF and Nebraska are really butt hurt in December or January

KISA is back! Where have you been dude?

 

[Poolside Knight]

UF fans are triggered that UCF isn't just waving the white flag & is putting a public effort with this excellence fund. That's starting to turn into a worry that they might get turned down.

 

[LemmyKilmister]

They act like if we come a calling for Frost he is ours and if we don't come a calling then we obviously didn't want him and went in a different direction. I hope he stays at UCF and UF and Nebraska are really butt hurt in December or January

Didn't we beat this dead horse to a bloody pulp already?

Oh brother...

 

[Stormthecourt?]

KISA is back! Where have you been dude?

Now all we need to do is find @UCFProf

 

[HammerB08]

About that whole playing in the weakest division in the P5:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...may-want-to-rethink-its-divisional-structure/

 

[hemightbejeremy]

You sure about that? O'Leary made just under 2 million (1.89) before he left. Frosty is making 2 million now.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-oleary-57th-highest-paid-coach-fbs/73883078/

1.89m with 750k in incentive pay. You are right though. When frost signed the extension his pay was bumped from 1.7 to 2m. My point was there is probably room for UCF to pay 2.5 to 3. O’Leary’s base plus potential bonuses was already in that range.

 

[Boston.Knight]

KISA - where you been dog?

Let's rehash - UCF last three coaches were with the program 11,17, and 12 years respectively. UF/Nebraska - on the hotseat after two years, three max if no instant gratification. We give statues to coaches coming off 0-12 because we see the forest through the trees. Nebraska blows out coaches left and right with 9-3 records, bowing to the whim of empowered boosters.

Now which program do you want to work for as an aspiring coach, mid-career? In other words, UCF is the new Nebraska.

 

[HuskerJedi777]

Didn't Nebraska and Florida have a chance to get Scott Frost like 3-4 years ago?

Yes.
Also when I was 8 I lost my favorite stuffed animal in a tree, since we are reliving traumatic memories. Our ex AD was an arrogant dumbass.

 

[muckdawg24]

I think they could bump it up to 2.5 after this season, but not sure they can do 3 million unless it's coming from that excellence fund. I'm thinking 500K for frosty and the other million out to the other assistants, bringing us in line with USF's assistant pool.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

Yes.
Also when I was 8 I lost my favorite stuffed animal in a tree, since we are reliving traumatic memories. Our ex AD was an arrogant dumbass.

So did you go leave signs on other kids' lawns talking about how you were gonna take their stuffed animal?

 

[Mikesi]

1.89m with 750k in incentive pay. You are right though. When frost signed the extension his pay was bumped from 1.7 to 2m. My point was there is probably room for UCF to pay 2.5 to 3. O’Leary’s base plus potential bonuses was already in that range.

Absolutely. I thought that he made 2.3 million base in the end

If we can pay that in 2014, we can certainly pay 3 million plus in 2018 with all the donations

 

[muckdawg24]

You forgot the excellence fund is mainly for the assistants.

 

[BigRedBeliever]

Didn't Nebraska and Florida have a chance to get Scott Frost like 3-4 years ago?

Yes, our Miami guy, Shawn Eichorst who was our AD at the time; single-handedly bi-passed Scott Frost who was at Oregon at the time for a coach at Oregon State who only wins .540 of his games. Most Nebraska fans were flabergasted!!! And now you know the rest of the story...

 

[studed]

A successful coach at UCF can make more than Frost is currently making. O'Leary had a higher salary than Frost does currently. There is probably room to move him up to closer to 3 mil per year. Does 10 years at 3 mil per year plus incentives beat 4 years at 4-5 million a year and pressure of being canned if he fails to bring home a national title at a blue blood? I mean there is talk that Jim Harbaugh is now on the hot seat in his 3rd season at 7-2 after back to back 10 wins seasons. The expectations of the blue blood programs are unrealistic. Only one team can win a national championship in a given year but there are 10-15 programs (Nebraska and Florida included) who accept nothing less.

lol no talk of harbaugh on the hot seat. who is going to fire him? the AD was hand picked by harbaugh. he basically had to be interviewed by harbaugh to get the job. michigan is making more money than it ever has. if anyone is saying that they made it up themselves.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

lol no talk of harbaugh on the hot seat. who is going to fire him? the AD was hand picked by harbaugh. he basically had to be interviewed by harbaugh to get the job. michigan is making more money than it ever has. if anyone is saying that they made it up themselves.

There are grumblings. Hasn’t finished higher than 3rd in the division. Currently 4th this year and looking at 2 more losses to Ohio State and Wisconsin. Offense is terrible. O’Korn was benched at Houston.