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The Current State of Florida Programs

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Looking at the current state of the in-state programs, we can project where UCF may fit in going forward and what their upside for opportunity is. The big 3 had a golden opportunity over the last 5 + years to carve out their spot as the premier program in the state and have squandered that. Based on last year’s season, FSU (10-3) is far and away the best team currently, while Miami (5-7) and UF (6-7) were questionable at best.

Miami has been especially underwhelming considering the recruiting success they had. Let’s take a look at the last 5 years recruiting rankings for each and their end of season ranking. They had a top 10 class for 2023, but that was in part due to Florida NIL legislation that hamstrung the public schools, their shady donor Ruiz funding a large portion of their war chest, and incompetence from their in-state competition. Now if Miami doesn’t have success immediately, they’re in big trouble. Ruiz may be running away from the SEC (not the conference) soon, UF has gotten their shit together finally and organized their NIL collective, and FSU’s recent success has improved their recruiting dramatically. While 2024’s recruiting rankings are still very early, this is already starting to show

Miami RecruitMiami RankingFlorida RecruitFlorida RankingFSU RecruitFSU RankingUCF RecruitUCF Ranking
20188-14711-6211
201927-9618-6024
2020172291322-75-
202111-12-23-58-
202216-18-201152-
20237TBD14TBD19TBD50TBD
202426TBD12TBD7TBD45TBD

Compounding this is revenue by conference. Let’s take a look at the ACC vs SEC vs Big 12 revenue. Now obviously this doesn’t account for NIL and donations, but there is such a large gap between the SEC and Big 12/ACC, Florida is always positioned for success by being in the premier conference. FSU and Miami, however, are in a much more precarious situation. As realignment looms, they need to position themselves as best as possible over the next couple of seasons. This means no more 5-7 seasons and they must take advantage of a weak ACC for conference title contention. FSU is considered the superior product and should be likely to be swooped up if realignment occurs. However Miami is not a slam dunk 538 Analysis. As we have seen, timing is everything and the teams that do get added are ones that increase value or are on par for existing members. Name recognition only goes so far when it doesn’t translate to on the field success, and resting on the laurels of glory days doesn’t resonate to kids who weren’t even born yet to witness a “dynasty.”

SECBig 12ACC
$68M/year through 2034$31.67M/year through 2031$20M/year through 2036

What does this mean for UCF?

The P5 schools will now have to also compete with UCF for recruiting and power within the state. UCF will likely suck for the next few seasons and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a losing season or two. Historically teams that have jumped from G5 to P5 experiences growing pains as their level of competition ramps up. BUT, with a much larger warchest of revenue and NIL, a greater TV and market presence, and name recognition of the Big 12 in recruiting, we’ll see the program steadily build and improve. UCF is in a prime position, considering the recent sub-par seasons of the big 3 and their positioning for a larger revenue grab. While we may not see the translation of these changes immediately to wins, over time UCF will be competing more and more directly with the other in-state programs. I don’t think anyone expects Gus Malzahn to lead the team to the playoffs, but what he can do is recruit at a high level and hopefully bring the program up to a level of stability for the next coach to build upon.
 
I have said this a lot but UCF is unique as a University and Program. just a great place to be for a student athlete


The issue now is under the old transfer portal rules and pre nil I was more confident in our ceiling. now there are so many variables that can destroy our depth so easily.

UCF doesn’t seem to have a Ruiz or some old money oil guy that can cover most of it and the small donation strategy probably isn’t sustainable when fans start feeling there is no accountability where the money is going and regulations in place where someone can’t transfer weeks after getting some of that nil share
 
UCF went 1-3 to end the year with the only win against 1-10 USF. Malhazan filling the roster with mid transfers that don’t get drafted or right out bust. The QB room in shambles. The top high school recruits from 2022 leaving…most without registering a single statistic and #KingdomNIL doing a raffle for old football equipment to raise money.
 
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UCF went 1-3 to end the year with the only win against 1-10 USF. Malhazan filling the roster with mid transfers that don’t get drafted or right out bust. The QB room in shambles. The top high school recruits from 2022 leaving…most without registering a single statistic and #KingdomNIL doing a raffle for old football equipment to raise money.
5-7
45-31 L to MTSU at home
 
Malhazan has been curbed by Navy two years in a row…boys running the same three plays over and over. UCF went 1-2 against three mid ACC teams…all three shut down Malhazan’s favorite player, Lil General Plumlee. Zero players drafted. Dudes getting as far as possible from Malhazan, but go on.
9-5>5-7

No one screams off-season champs like the Miami hurricanes. Congrats on squandering all that talent. You’re only one 5 star recruit away from making a bowl game
 
9-5>5-7

No one screams off-season champs like the Miami hurricanes. Congrats on squandering all that talent. You’re only one 5 star recruit away from making a bowl game
Cool keep stunting on G5 wins. Fact: UCF went 8-14 vs P5 since joining the AAC. Malhazan is 3-6 in bowl games and has NEVER won a NY6 as a head coach. Welp.
 
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Cool keep stunting on G5 wins. Fact: UCF went 8-14 vs P5 since joining the AAC. Malhazan is 3-6 in bowl games and has NEVER won a NY6 as a head coach. Welp.
Meanwhile, Miami was 5-7 last year and 1-10 in their last 11 bowl games. MTSU put their win on their ring, how embarrassing.
 
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Cool keep stunting on G5 wins. Fact: UCF went 8-14 vs P5 since joining the AAC. Malhazan is 3-6 in bowl games and has NEVER won a NY6 as a head coach. Welp.

Yeah no shit dude. How many G5 teams have a winning record over P5? Here’s the cliff notes version of the above post. UCF has had much more success relative to their level of competition. The class ranked at #50 this past year was the highest ever. They have been successful against their competition (G5 programs) who recruit on a similar level - 4 AAC conference titles and 3 NY6 games. As UCF moves to P5, resources will be much greater and recruiting will increase until they match other P5 programs. As a result of this, UCF will be competitive within the state.

Miami has recruited well relative to their competition. Yet, the program hasn't done anything with that talent (0 ACC titles). As UCF and the other Florida schools improve, the recruiting advantage for Miami will continue to decrease. This is about long-term trajectory. Recently Miami has been irrelevant. Unlike UF they have to win significantly or they're screwed in the long run with conference realignment. Their grasp on South Florida is slipping away with more out of state competition and in-state teams gaining more traction.

Having enough concern with a lowly G5 program such as UCF to warrant consistent negative posting on their team’s page is a bit odd, but it smells like insecurity mixed in with a lack of fulfillment in your life. My suggestion would be to take a break from commenting on 18-22 year olds playing sports who likely will never read anything you post and try to find a hobby or something that gives you happiness. Hope you find whatever it is you’re looking for.
 
Malhazan has been curbed by Navy two years in a row…boys running the same three plays over and over. UCF went 1-2 against three mid ACC teams…all three shut down Malhazan’s favorite player, Lil General Plumlee. Zero players drafted. Dudes getting as far as possible from Malhazan, but go on.
And Miami went 1-3 in its last 4 games with a Historic loss to its Rival FSU. Also a historic loss to Pitt. And they paid a coach a record 8 million dollars.
 
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UCF went 1-3 to end the year with the only win against 1-10 USF. Malhazan filling the roster with mid transfers that don’t get drafted or right out bust. The QB room in shambles. The top high school recruits from 2022 leaving…most without registering a single statistic and #KingdomNIL doing a raffle for old football equipment to raise money.
Malhazan has been curbed by Navy two years in a row…boys running the same three plays over and over. UCF went 1-2 against three mid ACC teams…all three shut down Malhazan’s favorite player, Lil General Plumlee. Zero players drafted. Dudes getting as far as possible from Malhazan, but go on.
Cool keep stunting on G5 wins. Fact: UCF went 8-14 vs P5 since joining the AAC. Malhazan is 3-6 in bowl games and has NEVER won a NY6 as a head coach. Welp.
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How many times have you stepped foot on the UM campus? You are a Want-to-Be fan, you are not a donor nor ever graduated from the universtiy. Get lost.
 
UCF with an average rank for the 2023 transfers of .8636. Players don’t want to go to a place where their probability of being drafted is close to zero. Brian George, Christian Leary and Antonio Grier all committed to transfer to UCF this year only to bolt for a better opportunity.
 
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UCF with an average rank for the 2023 transfers of .8636. Players don’t want to go to a place where their probability of being drafted is close to zero. Brian George, Christian Leary and Antonio Grier all committed to transfer to UCF this year only to bolt for a better opportunity.
So are y'all recruiting Justin Hodges as a C or a S on the u portal board?

"The Knights dismissed Hodges was dismissed in January after an arrest on home invasion charges."


"The Canes could certainly utilize another defensive back, especially one that’s capable of playing multiple roles with the defense. While there may not be any traction between Hodges and the Miami coaching staff, one would logically believe there would just about have to be a conversation between both sides before Hodges made his next move."


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So are y'all recruiting Justin Hodges as a C or a S on the u portal board?

"The Knights dismissed Hodges was dismissed in January after an arrest on home invasion charges."


"The Canes could certainly utilize another defensive back, especially one that’s capable of playing multiple roles with the defense. While there may not be any traction between Hodges and the Miami coaching staff, one would logically believe there would just about have to be a conversation between both sides before Hodges made his next move."


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Lol. Miami already took two starters from UCF and the RB coach. We are good over here.
 
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Are you seriously complaining? You made a burner account and created this thread just to look for my attention. You struggling now that I figuratively used you to mop the floor? Lol.
Can’t tell if this is satire or delusion anymore. The level of obsession goes to show either how far UCF has come, how far Miami has fallen, or both. You never see UF and FSU fans so consumed by the Knights, because they always have considered themselves superior and don’t feel threatened. I hope you find peace. Namaste
 
Miami with nine portal transfers, six with a portal rank of 4*. UCF with 13 portal transfers (soon to be 14) with ZERO with a portal ranking above 3*.
 
Look at the thread title. Your willingness to defend any and all of Malhazan’s failures is tremendous…great fun exposing you here.

Malhazan planning to develop anyone? Dude brought in only 15 high school recruits this year. In 2022, 15 high school recruits as well (three already gone). Who is Malhazan going to develop? The army of mid portal players that he is bringing in?
 
Look at the thread title. Your willingness to defend any and all of Malhazan’s failures is tremendous…great fun exposing you here.

Malhazan planning to develop anyone? Dude brought in only 15 high school recruits this year. In 2022, 15 high school recruits as well (three already gone). Who is Malhazan going to develop? The army of mid portal players that he is bringing in?
Just to illustrate how stupid your argument is...

TCU just played for the national championship after having bought in a bunch of 3 star transfers


Your 4-star prima donnas, meanwhile, produced another losing season.
 
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Just to illustrate how stupid your argument is...

TCU just played for the national championship after having bought in a bunch of 3 star transfers


Your 4-star prima donnas, meanwhile, produced another losing season.
First, none of the transfers that Malhazan has been bringing in is getting drafted. You don’t build a team based on 1-2 year mid caliber loaners. Also:
 
In exact words, Miami has been irrelevant for 2 FULL DECADES. #notypo

Pumping chests on 24' mock drafts on an open UCF board is f*cking embarassing. 😂😂😂
UCF has been flexing on a fake coley naty with an equally embarrassing wrestling belt. You people don’t register. UCF is # UndraftedU.
 
Yeah no shit dude. How many G5 teams have a winning record over P5? Here’s the cliff notes version of the above post. UCF has had much more success relative to their level of competition. The class ranked at #50 this past year was the highest ever. They have been successful against their competition (G5 programs) who recruit on a similar level - 4 AAC conference titles and 3 NY6 games. As UCF moves to P5, resources will be much greater and recruiting will increase until they match other P5 programs. As a result of this, UCF will be competitive within the state.

Miami has recruited well relative to their competition. Yet, the program hasn't done anything with that talent (0 ACC titles). As UCF and the other Florida schools improve, the recruiting advantage for Miami will continue to decrease. This is about long-term trajectory. Recently Miami has been irrelevant. Unlike UF they have to win significantly or they're screwed in the long run with conference realignment. Their grasp on South Florida is slipping away with more out of state competition and in-state teams gaining more traction.

Having enough concern with a lowly G5 program such as UCF to warrant consistent negative posting on their team’s page is a bit odd, but it smells like insecurity mixed in with a lack of fulfillment in your life. My suggestion would be to take a break from commenting on 18-22 year olds playing sports who likely will never read anything you post and try to find a hobby or something that gives you happiness. Hope you find whatever it is you’re looking for.
Owned his azz
 
Loaded weekend for Miami #Canes. At least ten transfers will be on campus. Mario working!
 
Loaded weekend for Miami #Canes. At least ten transfers will be on campus. Mario working!
Well at least you don't t have to worry about future UCF DB Trequon Fegans.

Three things I know, three things I think about Miami's transfer portal efforts

"I think that the situation with Alabama transfer defensive back Trequon Fegans is still blurry… Georgia Tech and UCF hosted the former Miami commit last week and schools like Arizona, USC, and others are fighting for visits. It’s likely that he sees the Wildcats and Trojans, and if things go well in Southern California, he could suit up for Lincoln Riley in 2023. (<-- That's cap) It feels like Miami has been hot and cold here in this recruitment and I’m not sure where it falls at the end of the day. InsideTheU reported last week that Miami had picked up contact, but that has waned some over the weekend. As I mentioned, the family still feels strongly for Miami but they have to move things along and find a fit for them relatively quickly."

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Well at least you don't t have to worry about future UCF DB Trequon Fegans.

Three things I know, three things I think about Miami's transfer portal efforts

"I think that the situation with Alabama transfer defensive back Trequon Fegans is still blurry… Georgia Tech and UCF hosted the former Miami commit last week and schools like Arizona, USC, and others are fighting for visits. It’s likely that he sees the Wildcats and Trojans, and if things go well in Southern California, he could suit up for Lincoln Riley in 2023. (<-- That's cap) It feels like Miami has been hot and cold here in this recruitment and I’m not sure where it falls at the end of the day. InsideTheU reported last week that Miami had picked up contact, but that has waned some over the weekend. As I mentioned, the family still feels strongly for Miami but they have to move things along and find a fit for them relatively quickly."

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Why would I be worried about him? Miami is not pushing for him. He already visited UCF and did not commit. If USC wants him then he’ll go there.

Who is Gustavo bringing in this weekend? Anyone coming?

EDIT: the Charlotte backup QB. Malhazan is in a mano a mano against Kent St for his pledge.Anyone else? Lol.

 
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Hey Lobo when Miami has 4 losses in their upcoming cakewalk schedule and the fans go ballistic.. who will they target as the next head coach ?
 
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