The Current State of Florida Programs

[LoboCane]

So you are saying they are young and not physically ready to compete against 20-year-olds?

Or in y'all's case 25-year-olds.

LOL. What are you even talking about? Lol. What does a TE have to do with anything? Arroyo is fully healthy and that player will be used as a blocker.

Malzon has no idea how to build a program. Hiring guys for positions that they have never coached.

Malzon has failed to develop at UCF any of the WR, LB, OL, QB, or RB that he recruited out of high school.

Malzon and Hand signed a total of 5 high school OL in three full classes. Two DL coaches signed ONE high school DL this year.

In desperate need of a proven portal WR and hired a WR coach that has never coached WRs at any level.

Malzon did sign nine 3* DBs for 2024…lmao. Trolls write themselves.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Malzon has no idea how to build a program. Hiring guys for positions that they have never coached.

Lot of those "they have never coached' guys turned out okay:

Gus Malzahn Coaching Tree

It’s more expansive than you might think!

www.collegeandmagnolia.com

Malzon has failed to develop at UCF any of the WR, LB, OL, QB, or RB that he recruited out of high school.

You do realize that Gus recruited, signed, and developed Kobi Hudson and Marc-Antony Richards out of high school before he signed him as transfers at UCF. He recruited JRP out of high school, signed him as a transfer, and developed him into a legitimate NFL free agent.

Regarding OL, I don't think Gus's plan was to sign a bunch of ELITE high school offensive linemen, particularly tackles. Herb Hand is one of college football's the greatest thieves of transfer portal linemen, especially tackles. Dating back to his time at Auburn and Texas, Hand just has an undeniably remarkable history of stealing other coaches' players:

Rice OT Calvin Anderson announces intent to become a graduate transfer

The longtime starter is from Austin and would be a perfect fit for the ‘Horns.

www.burntorangenation.com

Austin Golson transferring to Auburn

The former blue chip prospect will be eligible in 2015.

www.collegeandmagnolia.com

Former five-star Texas OT Darius James transferring to Auburn

Former Texas offensive tackle and five-star recruit Darius James will transfer to Auburn, according to 247Sports.

www.cbssports.com

JSU Center Casey Dunn Transferring To Auburn

Auburn is adding a grad transfer on the offensive line from Jacksonville State in center Casey Dunn.

www.247sports.com

Gus really doesn't control the defense, so I cannot speak for LB. A lot of Gus's signees have been in the linebacker rotation.

In desperate need of a proven portal WR and hired a WR coach that has never coached WRs at any level.

Malzon did sign nine 3* DBs for 2024

Much needed. Look at the schedule. UCF faces five teams ranked in the nation's Top 50 for passing yards and faces 6 of the Top 8 quarterbacks who returned to the Big 12.

 

[LoboCane]

Lot of those "they have never coached' guys turned out okay:

Gus Malzahn Coaching Tree

It’s more expansive than you might think!

www.collegeandmagnolia.com

You do realize that Gus recruited, signed, and developed Kobi Hudson and Marc-Antony Richards out of high school before he signed him as transfers at UCF. He recruited JRP out of high school, signed him as a transfer, and developed him into a legitimate NFL free agent.

Regarding OL, I don't think Gus's plan was to sign a bunch of ELITE high school offensive linemen, particularly tackles. Herb Hand is one of college football's the greatest thieves of transfer portal linemen, especially tackles. Dating back to his time at Auburn and Texas, Hand just has an undeniably remarkable history of stealing other coaches' players:

Rice OT Calvin Anderson announces intent to become a graduate transfer

The longtime starter is from Austin and would be a perfect fit for the ‘Horns.

www.burntorangenation.com

Austin Golson transferring to Auburn

The former blue chip prospect will be eligible in 2015.

www.collegeandmagnolia.com

Former five-star Texas OT Darius James transferring to Auburn

Former Texas offensive tackle and five-star recruit Darius James will transfer to Auburn, according to 247Sports.

www.cbssports.com

JSU Center Casey Dunn Transferring To Auburn

Auburn is adding a grad transfer on the offensive line from Jacksonville State in center Casey Dunn.

www.247sports.com

Gus really doesn't control the defense, so I cannot speak for LB. A lot of Gus's signees have been in the linebacker rotation.

Much needed. Look at the schedule. UCF faces five teams ranked in the nation's Top 50 for passing yards and faces 6 of the Top 8 quarterbacks who returned to the Big 12.

I am not sure if you belive all these gibberish?

Malzon developed Mark Anthony Richards into what?

AGAIN FOR THOSE IN THR BACK: Malzon has failed to develop at UCF any of the WR, LB, OL, QB, or RB that he recruited out of high school.

UCF has been a soft team that’s easily pushed around and dominated by bigger, more physical teams. This is only going to get worse for UCF.

Malzon and his people have absolutely failed at recruiting the trenches. UCF has a gimmick offense and and warm butter defense.

 

[LoboCane]

Elijah Alston (Miami) #1. Quite a few logos missing here as well.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

LOL. There’s not a single Gus player that will make the HOF. Not one. There’s not a single UCF player that will make the HOF. Not one. As of this minute that’s a FACTUAL opinion.

Funny thing is Miami is not close to being done putting guys in the NFL HOF. One coming next year for sure and more on the way.

Miami Hurricanes run this State!!!

UCF is very young program to have hall of famers already. Brandon Marshall comes on to the ballot next year though. Sitton the year after. Wouldn’t surprise me if both end up enshrined.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Elijah Alston (Miami) #1. Quite a few logos missing here as well.

That's impressive. I didn't realize he amassed those stats against ACC competition at the u last year. What was that? He played at a bottom-dwelling Conference USA East team. Oh right...

 

[LoboCane]

That's impressive. I didn't realize he amassed those stats against ACC competition at the u last year. What was that? He played at a bottom-dwelling Conference USA East team. Oh right...

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LOL. The PFF grades are the PFF grades. Who did UCF get? I’ll wait.

UCF has two DL coaches and signed ONE high school DL (3*) and one portal transfer…a 3* from UT San Martin (whatever that is). Meanwhile, UCF lost their best DL Morris-Brash and a starting DE Celiscar.

 

[KRH55]

UCF is very young program to have hall of famers already. Brandon Marshall comes on to the ballot next year though. Sitton the year after. Wouldn’t surprise me if both end up enshrined.

I’ve always thought Asante Samuel should’ve been elected into the Hall

 

[Retnuhrace]

UCF is very young program to have hall of famers already. Brandon Marshall comes on to the ballot next year though. Sitton the year after. Wouldn’t surprise me if both end up enshrined.

Looks like Marshall still falls short according to pro football reference. Sitton falls well short as well. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_WR.htm

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Looks like Marshall still falls short according to pro football reference. Sitton falls well short as well. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_WR.htm

Maybe. But I just said it wouldn’t surprise me. Only 2 HOF eligible WR in history have more ypg than Marshall had. Tory Holt, and Charlie Hennigan. Hennigan played only 6 years. Tory Holt though is probably evidence of why Marshall won’t get in as he had similar numbers to Marshall (1000 more yards with 9 less TDs and 50 less catches). 7 pro bowls (one more) and one first team all pro (same). I think Holt has a better case.

 

[LoboCane]

AuburnLegacy_1 keep trying to brainwash you fans with nonsense. Serious question for anyone with Dungeon access…do UCF fans question what Malzon is doing? Like at all?

Do any of you UCF fans honestly believe that this UCF roster with this coaching staff can win a Big 12 title? Do any of you question why Malzon has not being able to recruit the trenches?

What’s going to happen with the OL? Malzon doesn’t even have enough viable bodies to put out a makeshift OL. Also, two very small RB that are ineffective in pasS protection.

What about WR? There’s one guy with proven production in the entire roster. Nine 3* DBs in the 2024 recruiting class…but one high school DL, two high school OL (one will probably never play a down).

Does anyone ever question what Malzon does. The Orlando media (couple of guys) covering the team are afraid to ask any, even remotely, tough questions of Malzon. Why? He’s literally a nobody…a failed SEC coach.

 

[LoboCane]

On the the The ESPN SP+ metric:

Miami #21
UCF #59

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

AuburnLegacy_1 keep trying to brainwash you fans with nonsense.

Why would I "brainwash" these fans? What would be the purpose? Serious questions.

Do any of you UCF fans honestly believe that this UCF roster with this coaching staff can win a Big 12 title? Do any of you question why Malzon has not being able to recruit the trenches?

Herb Hand typically picks five guys and plays those same five into the dirt. Last season, Hand "had as much depth as any other time in his coaching career" and he tried to play the same guys over and over.

What’s going to happen with the OL? Malzon doesn’t even have enough viable bodies to put out a makeshift OL.

UCF is in good shape for 2024, but 2025 will be potentially problematic.

Also, two very small RB that are ineffective in pasS protection.

Lol. Cap.

Harvey was a top 3 halfback nationally in PFF most of the season.

NCAA HB Position Grades | PFF

PFF's exclusive metrics provide Running Back (HB) position rankings, grades, and snap counts.

www.pff.com

Now, the rest of the guys, save Mark-Antony Richards, were garbage in Pass Pro. Gus brought in the Cincinnati back to spell RJ in pass pro situations.

What about WR? There’s one guy with proven production in the entire roster.

UCF lost its top receiver to the NFL. Everybody else who played/starter returned. UCF will ONLY recruit the most ELITE Top one or two portal WR available this spring.

Nine 3* DBs in the 2024 recruiting class…but one high school DL, two high school OL (one will probably never play a down).

UCF had two walk-on offensive linemen starting when Gus took over. TWO WALK-ONs STARTING!

Does anyone ever question what Malzon does?

What questions do you want to ask? I will message Brandon and Stephen on your behalf.

 

[PositYourself]

I highly doubt Marshall gets in but what could put him over the edge is his mental illness passion.

 

[PhDee]

Why would I "brainwash" these fans? What would be the purpose? Serious questions.

Herb Hand typically picks five guys and plays those same five into the dirt. Last season, Hand "had as much depth as any other time in his coaching career" and he tried to play the same guys over and over.

UCF is in good shape for 2024, but 2025 will be potentially problematic.

Lol. Cap.

Harvey was a top 3 halfback nationally in PFF most of the season.

NCAA HB Position Grades | PFF

PFF's exclusive metrics provide Running Back (HB) position rankings, grades, and snap counts.

www.pff.com

Now, the rest of the guys, save Mark-Antony Richards, were garbage in Pass Pro. Gus brought in the Cincinnati back to spell RJ in pass pro situations.

UCF lost its top receiver to the NFL. Everybody else who played/starter returned. UCF will ONLY recruit the most ELITE Top one or two portal WR available this spring.

UCF had two walk-on offensive linemen starting when Gus took over. TWO WALK-ONs STARTING!

What questions do you want to ask? I will message Brandon and Stephen on your behalf.

Defense should be fine if we picked good transfers and we develop our current players. Our Offense will have big losses. Good thing Offense is Gus's strong suit.

 

[LoboCane]

Plenty of logos missing.

 

[LoboCane]

Miami Hurricanes #24 in the Updated ESPN Preseason rankings. UCF? UCF?? UCF??? But the resident Malzon Acolyte told all of you this was the best offseason in Malzon’s career.

Updated Way-Too-Early Top 25 after wild times in transfer portal, coaching carousel

Nick Saban retired? Ohio State reloaded? The past month has turned our Top 25 upside down. Here's where things stand now.

www.espn.com

 

[LoboCane]

“SEC trigger man” not on the list.

 

[LoboCane]

Why would I "brainwash" these fans? What would be the purpose? Serious questions.

Because you are here to simp for and promote Gus Malzon.

Herb Hand typically picks five guys and plays those same five into the dirt. Last season, Hand "had as much depth as any other time in his coaching career" and he tried to play the same guys over and over.

UCF is in good shape for 2024, but 2025 will be potentially problematic.

UCF doesn’t even have enough viable bodies for a patch work OL this year.

Lol. Cap.

Harvey was a top 3 halfback nationally in PFF most of the season.

NCAA HB Position Grades | PFF

PFF's exclusive metrics provide Running Back (HB) position rankings, grades, and snap counts.

www.pff.com

Do you watch the games? Do you? Have you seen him when he tries to block?

Now, the rest of the guys, save Mark-Antony Richards, were garbage in Pass Pro. Gus brought in the Cincinnati back to spell RJ in pass pro situations.

Gus has not developed a single high school RB at UCF. Complete failure.

UCF lost its top receiver to the NFL. Everybody else who played/starter returned. UCF will ONLY recruit the most ELITE Top one or two portal WR available this spring.

UCF lost one tranfer WR that declared. UCF has developed ZERO of the WR Malzon signed from high school while at UCF. There’s literally only one receiver with proven production in the roster.

You have no idea who UCF will recruit from the portal. UCF doesn’t get pick of the litter at any position. UCF doesn’t even have a real WR coach.

UCF had two walk-on offensive linemen starting when Gus took over. TWO WALK-ONs STARTING!

So, they were guys the former staff developed. Malzon and Hand have signed five high school OL in three years and have developed none of them. Malzon will be desperately looking for bodies at the Spring portal window.

What questions do you want to ask? I will message Brandon and Stephen on your behalf

LMAO. Stephen? Says all about you that you consider that kid a source of college football knowledge.

Keep posting GIFs. GIFs are sometimes funny. The same for clowns.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Texas A&M trashing recent uat hires.

SEC News: I didn't think I'd ever ask this, but is Alabama trying to become Baylor?

The Crimson Tide have now made two hires off of a Bears staff that ended last season at 3-9.

gigemgazette.com

Got me thinking...

Is the 'u' trying to become Marshall or South FL?

 

[LoboCane]

If Gus Malzon is serious about winning games he needs to get this guy.

 

[LoboCane]

None of the mid 3* DBs that Malzon picked up in the portal made the list, but Cory Thornton is there. Go figure.

 

[PositYourself]

Can someone banish this thread?

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Can someone banish this thread?

Bad idea.

Lobo mainly trolls on this thread. Eliminating it would result in him frequenting other threads. It is better to limit his lunacy to one thread.

 

[LoboCane]

Bad idea.

Lobo dominates this thread. Eliminating it would result in him abusing me in other threads. It is better for me to limit him to one thread.

Loser.

 

[Endeavor.]

TitanCaneee UCFs greatest foe

Shouldnt you be concerned with the ACC imploding around you

 

[Colonel Mortimer]

AuburnLegacy_1 keep trying to brainwash you fans with nonsense. Serious question for anyone with Dungeon access…do UCF fans question what Malzon is doing? Like at all?

Do any of you UCF fans honestly believe that this UCF roster with this coaching staff can win a Big 12 title? Do any of you question why Malzon has not being able to recruit the trenches?

What’s going to happen with the OL? Malzon doesn’t even have enough viable bodies to put out a makeshift OL. Also, two very small RB that are ineffective in pasS protection.

What about WR? There’s one guy with proven production in the entire roster. Nine 3* DBs in the 2024 recruiting class…but one high school DL, two high school OL (one will probably never play a down).

Does anyone ever question what Malzon does. The Orlando media (couple of guys) covering the team are afraid to ask any, even remotely, tough questions of Malzon. Why? He’s literally a nobody…a failed SEC coach.

When it comes to Malzahn I think most UCF fans agree with you more than AL1. The problem is you are a ****ing **** who brags about your team that has been irrelevant for 2 decades.

 

[LoboCane]

Another Miami mention here…nothing about UCF and the so called “SEC Trigger Man”.

 

[KnightNJ]

Another Miami mention here…nothing about UCF and the so called “SEC Trigger Man”.

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23rd annually offseason Champs for da U.

Haven't you learned yet?

When the games begin Mario will diarrhea down his pant leg all over again.

 

[LoboCane]

Gus Malzon recently did an interview where he’s basically lobbying for the Arkansas HC job. It’s humiliating and pathetic for you UCF fans. Old head clearly wants to be in the SEC and nowhere close to UCF.

You fans should put his behind to the fire and stop believing his bs and buying his snake oil. Orlando media is WEAK…they won’t ask any tough question of the old head…they just go along with everything he says, no matter how stupid.

Malzon just went 6-7 and 3-7 vs P5…nobody is going to hire his old behind. Your beta AD is not about to fire anyone either.

This interview does explain why he keeps bringing in armies of transfers and doesn’t develop any high school kids. He wants a big year so he can get the F out of UCF. He ain’t building sh!t at UCF. Truth!

 

[PhDee]

University of Malfunction (UM) nowhere to be found

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

University of Malfunction (UM) nowhere to be found

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Best Co*-OCs maybe.

 

[PositYourself]

These rankings are dumb.

What on earth had Hinshaw done in his career for him to be a TOP 10 OC??????

NOTHING.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

These rankings are dumb.

What on earth had Hinshaw done in his career for him to be a TOP 10 OC??????

NOTHING.

UCF finished as the Top 8 Total Offense in the nation, and Hinshaw was the "OC of record."

The Tweeter should have listed "UCF" as No. 8 because the Knights have 3 Co-OCs lined up for 2024.

 

[PhDee]

 

[LoboCane]

University of Malfunction (UM) nowhere to be found

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FSU account dummy.

 

[LoboCane]

UCF finished as the Top 8 Total Offense in the nation, and Hinshaw was the "OC of record."

The Tweeter should have listed "UCF" as No. 8 because the Knights have 3 Co-OCs lined up for 2024.

Lmao. What happened in the bowl? Keep bringing meaningless stats tho.

 

[LoboCane]

These rankings are dumb.

What on earth had Hinshaw done in his career for him to be a TOP 10 OC??????

NOTHING.

That’s just a dumb FSU account. He put UCF in to troll.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Lmao. What happened in the bowl?

I remember fondly.

Keep bringing meaningless stats tho.

Meaningless as in Boise State finishing higher in Total Offense than the u despite firing its head coach midseason?

 

[LoboCane]

I remember fondly.

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Meaningless as in Boise State finishing higher in Total Offense than the u despite firing its head coach midseason?

They play a G5 schedule dummy. Malzon was a 55 yard FG away from going 5-7. GT dominated UCF in the bowl game and UCF had ZERO opt outs.