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VA Governor goes to bat for infanticide

why not change your stance from 40 weeks to 37 knowing that is full term? the answer, you are ok with murder.
I am more likely to change it to 42. If a baby is inside of a woman and the woman's life could potentially be at risk I don't want our government deciding that she has to die or that the baby has to die. That's a family decision.
 
There are thousands and thousands of complications that can happen in a pregnancy. Body types, weight, height, family history, ever disease, baby location and hundreds of others can happen individually or in conjunction with any of the other thousand circumstances.

Can you assure me that it will never happen and that a woman will never be forced to surrender her life because she doesn't have access to an abortion in the 3rd trimester?
If you can give me an example of a woman who is in the process of giving birth is somehow more likely to live by killing the baby then I'll adjust my position.
 
If you can give me an example of a woman who is in the process of giving birth is somehow more likely to live by killing the baby then I'll adjust my position.
I cannot foresee all possibilities of outcome of pregnancy in every week of a pregnancy and neither can you.

So, and this might sound crazy, we should let doctors decide what is a risk to the individual patient and not set broad restrictions just because we are PRETTTTTY sure it doesn't happen that much.
 
If you can give me an example of a woman who is in the process of giving birth is somehow more likely to live by killing the baby then I'll adjust my position.
he would never be able to provide you with something like that. weve all seen a lot of mental gynmastics in the watercooler, but him not being able to admit that instance is murder takes the gold.
 
I cannot foresee all possibilities of outcome of pregnancy in every week of a pregnancy and neither can you.

So, and this might sound crazy, we should let doctors decide what is a risk to the individual patient and not set broad restrictions just because we are PRETTTTTY sure it doesn't happen that much.
Ok, then lets just agree that abortion should only be allowed for the physical health of the mother at any time.
 
Ok, then lets just agree that abortion should only be allowed for the physical health of the mother at any time.
I'll agree that we should never abort a viable baby for reasons other than medical needs. It's what I've always thought and always said.
 
And my abortion stance is a much bigger deviation from my political party than any of you ever demonstrate. Because you're embarassing shills.
 
I'll agree that we should never abort a viable baby for reasons other than medical needs. It's what I've always thought and always said.
Glad we can agree. Now lets agree that there should be a law prohibiting abortion for any reason that doesnt include incest, rape, or health of the mother
 
Glad we can agree. Now lets agree that there should be a law prohibiting abortion for any reason that doesnt include incest, rape, or health of the mother
Take it up with the supreme court if that's your stance but until then I'll stick with the legal rights of US citizens. Mmmmk?
 
What we really need is a law that says abortion can only be performed by an NRA member using an uzi
 
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And my abortion stance is a much bigger deviation from my political party than any of you ever demonstrate. Because you're embarassing shills.
im prochoice up until the 3rd trimester and you call me a red maga hatter trumper all the time. lol

you have stated you are in lock step with the dnc for abortion seconds before being born. you are an embarrassing dnc shill and all around terrible person.
 
Babys head and shoulders are out

Doctor "if we don't kill it now then the mother will die"

Everybody else "huh?"

Doctor: "the law says I can do it"

Everybody else "that doesn't seem right"

Doctor. "The baby is black"

Everybody else "proceed "
 
im prochoice up until the 3rd trimester and you call me a red maga hatter trumper all the time. lol

you have stated you are in lock step with the dnc for abortion seconds before being born. you are an embarrassing dnc shill and all around terrible person.
3rd trimester is too long to be pro-choice that's 27 weeks. You're a monster, a terrible person, a red hat shill, a scoundrel, a scumbag, an incel, and a nerd.

Edit: and a murderer
 
It's 3:27 pm and FC has still ignored my prior posts refuting his redirected context and he's still defending laws that allow elective late term abortions.
 
It's 3:27 pm and FC has still ignored my prior posts refuting his redirected context and he's still defending laws that allow elective late term abortions.
It's 3:31 the rage boner has not subsided. 85 is losing blood flow. He's becoming delirious, 85 still thinks that needing a medical doctor to determine if an pregnancy is a health risk means the same thing as elective.
 
It's 3:31 the rage boner has not subsided. 85 is losing blood flow. He's becoming delirious, 85 still thinks that needing a medical doctor to determine if an pregnancy is a health risk means the same thing as elective.

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I've explained like 4 times now what is actually in the NY bill, that VA wanted to replicate, and 4 times now you refuse to listen and keep putting forward your own fake news facts.

You also skim right over the actual OB/GYN testimony that renders you ENTIRE argument dumb and not applicable.

But please continue!
 
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I've explained like 4 times now what is actually in the NY bill, that VA wanted to replicate, and 4 times now you refuse to listen and keep putting forward your own fake news facts.

You also skim right over the actual OB/GYN testimony that renders you ENTIRE argument dumb and not applicable.

But please continue!
Talk about what's in the actual law. It requires a medical assessment that there is a health risk.
 
3rd trimester is too long to be pro-choice that's 27 weeks. You're a monster, a terrible person, a red hat shill, a scoundrel, a scumbag, an incel, and a nerd.

Edit: and a murderer
thats the best you could come up with? lol

but on a serious note at least i dont advocate for the actual murder of a fully formed baby. keep it up sh't stain.
 
thats the best you could come up with? lol

but on a serious note at least i dont advocate for the actual murder of a fully formed baby. keep it up sh't stain.
27 weeks is despicable and radical and murder. You are basically a murdering monster akin to Theodore Bundy.
 
27 weeks is despicable and radical and murder. You are basically a murdering monster akin to Theodore Bundy.
so basically you are now admitting you are a radical and murderer too?

lol you are pathetic. youve got nothing of substance and you know it. other than your horrible acceptance of murder.
 
And here is the VA Governor from college,
in black face standing next to a Klansman or someone dressed like one

Maybe his support for infanticde makes more sense now

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so basically you are now admitting you are a radical and murderer too?

lol you are pathetic. youve got nothing of substance and you know it. other than your horrible acceptance of murder.
You are pro murder for a baby just being an inconvenience at 27 weeks? Despicable. @UCFKnight85 please insult this vile subhuman scum. 27 weeks a baby can survive on its own and you are basically serial killer Al Bundy for supporting this genocide of infants.
 
The Dems are already making excuses on this. Not a good look, considering what happened late last year about "35 years ago." Only in this case ... there's actual proof!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...7a43ee-265f-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html

QUOTE: “His whole life has been about exactly the opposite and that’s what you need to examine, not something that occurred 30 years ago,” said Senate Minority Leader Richard L. Saslaw (D-Fairfax). “While it’s in very poor taste, I would think no one in the General Assembly who would like their college conduct examined. I would hate to have to go back and examine my two years in the Army. Trust me. I was 18 years old and I was a handful, OK? His life since then has been anything but. It’s been a life of helping people, and many times for free.”"
 
im prochoice up until the 3rd trimester and you call me a red maga hatter trumper all the time. lol
If people could hold to this, and not ask for anything more, I'd respect it. Unfortunately such conservatives are rare.

Same goes for Progressives who only want to ban fully automatic weapons, and not label everything as such.
 
That's when moderates ruled the country...on both sides of the aisle.
Now...the loonie left is totally unhinged where they have no shame.
^ I do have to agree with that statement.

In any case, getting back to the very first, original post ...

I do agree that Northam really did f'up on the comment about the baby being outside the mother's womb, and then basically saying the family still 'has choice.' This has nothing to do with when the baby is in the womb of the woman, and part of her body.

I wish Conservatives would stop trying to push the lines, and force those types of logical discussions. Just like when Progressives do the same on guns.
 
Ok, then lets just agree that abortion should only be allowed for the physical health of the mother at any time.
It is due to evil politicians like Virginia Governor Northam, the entire Virginia Legislature, legislator Kathy Tran, New York Governor Cuomo, the entire New York legislature, and the Cultural Marxist manhattan-ites pushing feminism since the 1950's, that fewer and fewer men even want anything to do with women, let alone wanting to marry them and have children with them, which is leading to population collapse. Who would want to be a part of a "relationship" where two people create a life, but only one party to the relationship has been given the power of life and death over that life by the state???
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These leftist sjw commies are running scared, trying to push the limits of their evil leftist ideology, because they know that President Trump will almost certainly be replacing two to three more U.S. Supreme Court Justices with solid conservatives, and that the disgustingly evil Roe vs. Wade decision may well be overturned.

Another takeaway, it could only take an empty soulless Vietnamese commie woman to be the defender of the proposal. Any chance for some publicity , any chance to impress the Dem. leaders of her worthiness and do whatever dirty work is needed.

Northam and Tran are beyond despicable.
 
Glad we can agree. Now lets agree that there should be a law prohibiting abortion for any reason that doesnt include incest, rape, or health of the mother
That would be against Roe v. Wade, and would require a Constitutional Amendment.
 
Shocking! Democrats block a Senate bill that was affirm the belief that delivered infants should be protected and not, you know......killed.

Nothing to see here folks. Just mainstream Democrats openly leaving the door open for abortion to someday include infanticide.

On the Senate floor this evening, Senator Ben Sasse (R., Neb.) called for unanimous consent on his Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which provides protections for any infants born alive after attempted abortion procedures.

Democratic Senator Patty Murray of Washington objected to the bill on the floor, preventing it from receiving unanimous consent…

Earlier today, Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell affirmed his support for Sasse’s legislation and hinted that he’d be willing to bring it to the floor for a roll-call vote. “I hope that none of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle invent any reasons to block this request later today,” McConnell said. “That would make quite a disturbing statement. If they do inexplicably block Senator Sasse’s effort, I can assure them that this will not be the last time we try to ensure that all newborns are afforded this fundamental legal protection.”
 
Shocking! Democrats block a Senate bill that was affirm the belief that delivered infants should be protected and not, you know......killed.

Nothing to see here folks. Just mainstream Democrats openly leaving the door open for abortion to someday include infanticide.

On the Senate floor this evening, Senator Ben Sasse (R., Neb.) called for unanimous consent on his Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which provides protections for any infants born alive after attempted abortion procedures.

Democratic Senator Patty Murray of Washington objected to the bill on the floor, preventing it from receiving unanimous consent…

Earlier today, Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell affirmed his support for Sasse’s legislation and hinted that he’d be willing to bring it to the floor for a roll-call vote. “I hope that none of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle invent any reasons to block this request later today,” McConnell said. “That would make quite a disturbing statement. If they do inexplicably block Senator Sasse’s effort, I can assure them that this will not be the last time we try to ensure that all newborns are afforded this fundamental legal protection.”
Wow.
 
ive stated my prochoice opinion and i think alot of the prolife people here would firmly disagree with it.

im still trying to figure out how anyone could think that a baby that was literally just delivered naturally or csection could be terminated and be called an abortion. its murder plain and simple. i dont know how these people sleep at night.
 
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ive stated my prochoice opinion and i think alot of the prolife people here would firmly disagree with it.

im still trying to figure out how anyone could think that a baby that was literally just delivered naturally or csection could be terminated and be called an abortion. its murder plain and simple. i dont know how these people sleep at night.
Because it's not happening. It's 85 boogie man shit again.
 
85s copy paste from RWNJ websites really should be consumed carefully.

The article says democrats prevented the bill from having unanimous consent because 1 senator objected.

A few things here. McConnell hasn't called for a vote.

Republicans control the Senate

Democrats couldn't block this if they wanted to

A law already exists

Yet with all this info 85 just lies to this entire message board yet again for the 10000th time that "democrats blocked this bill."

It's dishonest boogie man shit yet again.
 
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