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Assuming that there is evidence (transcripts, witnesses) what would be impeachable?Let's see if there is evidence first before making wild guesses. So for everything has been a scam as far as the allegations for the last 3 years.
Let's see if there is evidence first before making wild guesses. So for everything has been a scam as far as the allegations for the last 3 years.
There's actually a good reason for it. Most of these people are so dug in to supporting trump that facing the idea that he deserves to be impeached doesn't just threaten their political preferences. It threatens their entire identity as a human being. These are people who have built their social connections around trumpism their friends, their church, their clubs, everything about them is trumpism so the idea of accepting reality threatens their entire identity.
Because of this, theyll search out a version of the truth that they like. A version or reality that allows them to feel like they were right all along. When Nixon was impeached access to this alternate reality didn't exist so people had to come to terms with Nixon's crimes. That's not the case anymore.
i do enjoy your trolling from time to time. that was a solid one.Oh I'm sorry, did that hit a little too close to home?
i do enjoy your trolling from time to time. that was a solid one.
i wanted the impeachment process to start. until now alot of he said/she said. if there is evidence go ahead and throw him out. i havent seen enough to do so yet.So who would you need to hear about a Trump crime from in order to believe it?
Yeah, evidence of bribery and extortion just isn't "enough" yet.if there is evidence go ahead and throw him out. i havent seen enough to do so yet.
i wanted the impeachment process to start. until now alot of he said/she said. if there is evidence go ahead and throw him out. i havent seen enough to do so yet.
You mean the same thing that Joe Biden bragged about to the Council on Foreign Relations about his time serving as vice president?A clear and coordinated effort to extort a political bombshell announcement out of the Ukrainian President if he wanted military aid from the U.S. to defend itself against Russia would do it for me.
But evidently for some posters bribery and extortion for personal gain isn’t a big deal because ‘everybody does it.’
trump withholding $400 million seems like it could be a big deal. but then again biden admitted to withhold $1 billion and that wasnt a big deal at all. last i checked $1b was bigger than $400m. so yea, seems routine to me.The evidence is pretty overwhelming honestly. It's really more he said / everyone-else-and-all-the-evidence-said.
Trump was leveraging the aid and a white house visit to get Zelensky to publicly announce investigations into 2016 and Burisma. I don't see a reasonable, non-biased observer of the available facts coming to a different conclusion than the this.
Where there's room for debate is what those facts actually describe - a routine foreign policy interaction? Soliciting a bribe? Extortion? Abuse of Power?
The only contrary voice, Gordon Sondland, who didn't refuse to speak to Congress, ended up getting cold feet and changed his testimony.The evidence is pretty overwhelming honestly. It's really more he said / everyone-else-and-all-the-evidence-said.
LOL Yeah, the same people who were ready to roll a President for lying under oath about a blowjob are the same people who want to excuse a President's bribery and extortion efforts against a foreign country to gain a political advantage in his upcoming reelection campaign.Blowjob by intern, definitely. #thingsthatmatter
You know Trump is in trouble when his only defense is a Made-up Well Whattabout.You mean the same thing that Joe Biden bragged about to the Council on Foreign Relations about his time serving as vice president?
trump withholding $400 million seems like it could be a big deal. but then again biden admitted to withhold $1 billion and that wasnt a big deal at all. last i checked $1b was bigger than $400m. so yea, seems routine to me.
If he forced it on her, yes. I'm not even just talking a subordinate, which is a form of sexual extortion.A BJ is pretty bad IYAM. That's a high crime.
That's not even a real answer to the very legitimate point that I brought up, DaCuckster.You know Trump is in trouble when his only defense is a Made-up Well Whattabout.
Exactly, and that's why Crazy Joe should have just let this one go.That framing is probably one of Trump's better defenses. It's total nonsense of course.
If he forced it on her, yes. I'm not even just talking a subordinate, which is a form of sexual extortion.
And yes, before you defend Clinton again, you should read up. I'm tired of Democrats not knowing not only Bill's long history of sexual assault accusers, but ignoring Hillary's role in going after them.
What if Trump gets impeached, Pence kicks major ass and wins in 2020?
trump withholding $400 million seems like it could be a big deal. but then again biden admitted to withhold $1 billion and that wasnt a big deal at all. last i checked $1b was bigger than $400m. so yea, seems routine to me.
Joe Biden held back more money for something that aligned with US foreign policy at the time.
Trump held back less money for a PUBLIC announcement of an investigation into the democratic front runner at the time, his likely election opponent. This was a move that wasn't thought up by the Intel Community but rather, private citizen Rudy Guliani. The move was so bad that the IC said this is a problem so they put it on a top secret server even though the call contained no top secret info since it was just released publicly without issue. They tried to hide it because they knew it was bad.
Yeah, seems about the same.
I'm not sure any of it would be, due to the fact that the Biden story predates his entrance into the race.Assuming that there is evidence (transcripts, witnesses) what would be impeachable?
I'm not sure any of it would be, due to the fact that the Biden story predates his entrance into the race.
Replace the name "Biden" with "Clinton" and it paints a different picture because one is now running and the other is not. Reading the transcript, trump basically asked for an investigation into Clinton and election tampering first, then Biden. Nobody is paying attention to the first request. Why the disconnect?
I suppose we have to ask ourselves how broad the line is between the national interest and personal interest. It seems like there can be a lot of grey area there. Obama gets a pass for wiretapping trump campaign officials because at the time it appeared as though there was a chance of Russian influence based on faulty information. Why doesn't Trump get the same pass?
I suppose we have to ask ourselves how broad the line is between the national interest and personal interest. It seems like there can be a lot of grey area there. Obama gets a pass for wiretapping trump campaign officials because at the time it appeared as though there was a chance of Russian influence based on faulty information. Why doesn't Trump get the same pass?