2020 Democrat hopefuls

[Sir Galahad]

Nothing really happens as a small city Mayor? Yeah, being Vice President is such a mission-critical position! What would we do without Mike Pence, right? And least we forget the position of Senator in today's Congress. Boy the legislative work those people do is staggering.

I've done my homework as I've considered this big Democrat field. Unlike some, I view the picking of a President as a 'job interview' where the answers to questions that candidates give actually mean something. It's still early but IMHO Mayor Pete has aced his early interviews and has set himself apart by the uniqueness of his message.

I hope you don’t hire anyone. When I interview for candidates, I look at their resume and talk to their references and then call others that may know them. What they say means very little other then seeing if they are professional.

 

[DaShuckster]

I hope you don’t hire anyone.

Oops. Too late.

When I interview for candidates, I look at their resume and talk to their references and then call others that may know them.

If we're looking at an executive position in Government, I would view current or previous executive experience as more of a plus than legislative experience with no executive-level experience. I would add bonus points for also having business and military experience.

What they say means very little other then seeing if they are professional.

Really? I expected interviewed candidates to be qualified based on our preliminary screening. The interview is where I was able to glean a candidate's energy and enthusiasm, passion for the work, vision, and "team fit" to name a few 'little' things.

 

[UCFKnight85]

No you don't. Which is why it was important to see Trump's tax returns while we were still vetting candidates to see exactly how our would-be President actually made his money.

But his Red Hat followers said "We don't need to see no stinkin' tax returns," and we didn't.

If we had, chances are he'd have been kicked out of the race before this Russian collusion business had a chance to blossom.

Only someone who doesn’t understand how wealth is actually built would think that seeing a few years of tax returns can explain 40 years of wealth creation and turning millions into billions

 

[DaShuckster]

Only someone who doesn’t understand how wealth is actually built would think that seeing a few years of tax returns can explain 40 years of wealth creation and turning millions into billions

Yeah, big loans from Russian banks would have been meaningless to all of us naive non-billionaires.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Yeah, big loans from Russian banks would have been meaningless to all of us naive non-billionaires.

Do you guys still believe in this Russia boogeyman? The Trump Admin has sanctioned Russian oligarchs, provided lethal arms to Ukraine to kill Russians, collectively convinced NATO to spend billions more on defense to counter Russia, bombed his buddy Assad in Syria, and is now squeezing Putin's buddy Maduro like a pimple in VZ.

Gee, I'm not expert but it seems like a bad business decision to do all of that if the Russians held crippling debt.

 

[DaShuckster]

Do you guys still believe in this Russia boogeyman? The Trump Admin has sanctioned Russian oligarchs, provided lethal arms to Ukraine to kill Russians, collectively convinced NATO to spend billions more on defense to counter Russia, bombed his buddy Assad in Syria, and is now squeezing Putin's buddy Maduro like a pimple in VZ.

Wow, what a convincing sales pitch!!!

How could we have ever gotten the crazy notion that Trump was Putin's bitch???

 

[UCFKnight85]

Wow, what a convincing sales pitch!!!

How could we have ever gotten the crazy notion that Trump was Putin's bitch???

I know how, you are a deranged fellow who suffers badly from TDS.

 

[Poolside Knight]

The Trump Admin has sanctioned Russian oligarchs,

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/27/us-lifts-sanctions-oleg-deripaska-russia

 

[UCFKnight85]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/27/us-lifts-sanctions-oleg-deripaska-russia

lol really? Come on man.

This guy is literally suing the US Government and US Treasury as we speak, for labeling him as an Oligarch in 2018 (under Trump), sanctioning him as a result, and apparently wiping out $7.5B or 81% of his entire net worth.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/15/put...o-block-sanctions-says-hes-lost-billions.html

So the Trump Admin labels him an Oligarch and then wipes out 81% of his net worth. Lots of favors they're doing this guy!*

 

[fried-chicken]

Nothing really happens as a small city Mayor? Yeah, being Vice President is such a mission-critical position! What would we do without Mike Pence, right? And least we forget the position of Senator in today's Congress. Boy the legislative work those people do is staggering.

I've done my homework as I've considered this big Democrat field. Unlike some, I view the picking of a President as a 'job interview' where the answers to questions that candidates give actually mean something. It's still early but IMHO Mayor Pete has aced his early interviews and has set himself apart by the uniqueness of his message.

The people questioning Pete in this thread are dumbass redhats. They are voting Trump no matter what. The fact is that Pete has built a strong following very very early in the cycle while basically starting from scratch. He's going to win the nomination if he can keep the momentum going.

 

[UCFKnight85]

The people questioning Pete in this thread are dumbass redhats. They are voting Trump no matter what. The fact is that Pete has built a strong following very very early in the cycle while basically starting from scratch. He's going to win the nomination if he can keep the momentum going.

And the people kissing his ass are dumbass Shook vagina hats.

 

[fried-chicken]

And the people kissing his ass are dumbass Shook vagina hats.

Uh yeah? He's a democratic nominee for president. Democrats like him. Its our job to pick the person we want to represent us. It's your job to shit on him like you shit all over Trump before you fell in line like a sloppy bitch.

 

[Sir Galahad]

Oops. Too late.


If we're looking at an executive position in Government, I would view current or previous executive experience as more of a plus than legislative experience with no executive-level experience. I would add bonus points for also having business and military experience.


Really? I expected interviewed candidates to be qualified based on our preliminary screening. The interview is where I was able to glean a candidate's energy and enthusiasm, passion for the work, vision, and "team fit" to name a few 'little' things.

Obviously you are looking at entry level candidates. President is not an entry level job. At that level it’s what you have done, not how enthusiastic you sound.

 

[Sir Galahad]

Yeah, big loans from Russian banks would have been meaningless to all of us naive non-billionaires.

You have no idea what a tax return apparently. What you want to see is an operation P&L and balance sheet. His tax returns will show nothing but what he earned in one year.

 

[Sir Galahad]

Uh yeah? He's a democratic nominee for president. Democrats like him. Its our job to pick the person we want to represent us. It's your job to shit on him like you shit all over Trump before you fell in line like a sloppy bitch.

He is not a democrat nominee for president, he is running to be the democrat nominee, the only one that nominated him for anything is himself. I’ll go further, if he were not gay, 90% of you fools following him wouldn’t. Let’s get the mayor of Lakeland, Gainesville and Tallahassee, oops on that last one...

 

[fried-chicken]

He is not a democrat nominee for president, he is running to be the democrat nominee, the only one that nominated him for anything is himself. I’ll go further, if he were not gay, 90% of you fools following him wouldn’t. Let’s get the mayor of Lakeland, Gainesville and Tallahassee, oops on that last one...

The only ones repeatedly talking about him being gay are the bigots. Most of us heard he was gay and then moved on to his message.

 

[Poolside Knight]

He is not a democrat nominee for president, he is running to be the democrat nominee, the only one that nominated him for anything is himself. I’ll go further, if he were not gay, 90% of you fools following him wouldn’t. Let’s get the mayor of Lakeland, Gainesville and Tallahassee, oops on that last one...

why continue to spam the thread if it’s clear that you are voting for Trump again no matter who the D Nom is? Trump was right about one thing that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and you all will still blindly follow him. That’s why he is emboldened enough to spend the last 3 Days going on an unhinged rant trashing a Dead POW Republican Senator bc he knows he won’t ever get any serious pushback from his own party.

 

[UCFKnight85]

The only ones repeatedly talking about him being gay are the bigots. Most of us heard he was gay and then moved on to his message.

lol holy shit, please stop. Should this guy win the Nom (hint: he won't) but IF he did, him being gay is ALL we would hear from the media. We would be reminded of it night and day. Does that make them bigots?

 

[DaShuckster]

Obviously you are looking at entry level candidates.

Oops. Wrong again.

President is not an entry level job.

No fooling. It's a crying shame Trump voters didn't appreciate what should have been a "duh" factoid in 2016.

At that level it’s what you have done, not how enthusiastic you sound.

It's what you have done, how you look at our complex world, and how effectively you can inspire the American people.

 

[Sir Galahad]

why continue to spam the thread if it’s clear that you are voting for Trump again no matter who the D Nom is? Trump was right about one thing that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and you all will still blindly follow him. That’s why he is emboldened enough to spend the last 3 Days going on an unhinged rant trashing a Dead POW Republican Senator bc he knows he won’t ever get any serious pushback from his own party.

I’m voting for Trump again because of what he HAS done and what he wants to do. I also know that the entire Russia collusion investigation was nothing more than a political hit piece for people with low IQ’s to fall for. I’m still waiting to n anything illegal he has done in his political career or for that matter proof of anything illegal he has done in the last 30 years.

 

[DaShuckster]

I’m voting for Trump again because of what he HAS done and what he wants to do.

Wow. This guy admits voting for Trump yet has the audacity to lecture us about how to properly vet candidates. You can't make this stuff up.

I’ll go further, if he (Pete Butigieg) were not gay, 90% of you fools following him wouldn’t.

Spoken like a true Social Conservative who obsesses over insignificant crap like this. It's Obama all over again but instead of obsessing over the color of the candidate's skin or his Muslim-sounding name (and, of course, his true birthplace), we're going the "Omigawd he's GAY!" route.

Guess what? Yesterday Butigieg was interviewed on Morning Joe and his "gayness" didn't come up once during a half hour interview.

 

[fried-chicken]

lol holy shit, please stop. Should this guy win the Nom (hint: he won't) but IF he did, him being gay is ALL we would hear from the media. We would be reminded of it night and day. Does that make them bigots?

No one is focused on him being gay, after initially being introduced to him, except the red hats.

 

[fried-chicken]

I’m voting for Trump again because of what he HAS done and what he wants to do. I also know that the entire Russia collusion investigation was nothing more than a political hit piece for people with low IQ’s to fall for. I’m still waiting to n anything illegal he has done in his political career or for that matter proof of anything illegal he has done in the last 30 years.

Hey pal, remember when you tried to tell me the Russia investigation was really looking into Hillary. What happened to that low IQ take?

 

[bqknight]

This is correct. He's the one Trump should fear the most.

After reviewing the Democrat Presidential field, I'm actually surprised by the person that has been the most impressive: Pete Buttigieg.

You'd think the mayor of a relatively small city would be at the back of the pack. But in his early interviews and town halls, he has literally blown me away with his command of the issues. I challenge anyone to listen to him and not be impressed. Given the state of our politics, he's a breath of fresh air.

My gut tells me this 'no-name' is going to make some serious waves in the Democratic Primaries.

YES!!!

He's picking up speed big time - the key will be if he can keep it going. I want to see how he handles his first "controversy" too. You know now that he is becoming a threat - something will come out about him and how he reacts will be important.

He's extremely well spoken and intelligent but doesn't sound pretentious and you can connect with him easily.

He's my guy for now - can't wait for the first debate in June.

 

[UCFKnight85]

No one is focused on him being gay, after initially being introduced to him, except the red hats.

That's because he's an insignificant nobody running below 2% in polling amongst Democrats.

 

[DaShuckster]

And the people kissing his ass are dumbass Shook vagina hats.

Toadie trolling aside, who are the folks who are getting on the Mayor Pete bandwagon? At the risk of further Red Hat ridicule, I’m going to share what I think is in play here for those folks around the country he’s impressing.

Beyond his obvious competence and command of the issues, my take is there’s a fresh, almost wide-eyed innocence about his approach to politics that makes people feel like they’ve been washed clean of all the mud and slime. Just as Trump set himself apart in 2016 by “not talking like a politician,” Pete does the same thing in a completely different way. He actually listens to questions and answers them without resorting to regurgitated sound bites. As with everything and everybody, Pete is one scandal away from having it all come crashing down. But if the Republican think they can take him down by focusing attention on his homosexuality, I think they’ll be in for a surprise.

Simply put, he inspires hope again and I doubted I would ever feel that way about a modern day politician again.

 

[bqknight]

That's because he's an insignificant nobody running below 2% in polling amongst Democrats.

He was at 0% until about a week ago - he's gained nearly 200K Twitter followers in a week. Every time he's on air the hosts and audience are beyond impressed.

How he performs in the first main debate in June will dictate how far he goes.

 

[UCFBS]

lol really? Come on man.

This guy is literally suing the US Government and US Treasury as we speak, for labeling him as an Oligarch in 2018 (under Trump), sanctioning him as a result, and apparently wiping out $7.5B or 81% of his entire net worth.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/15/put...o-block-sanctions-says-hes-lost-billions.html

So the Trump Admin labels him an Oligarch and then wipes out 81% of his net worth. Lots of favors they're doing this guy!*

The left literally are at odds with the facts.

In fact, the Russians are dumping a lot of money in an anti-Trump campaign right now, just like they do anyone who is the person who least favors them. The US media loves they money, and has since the Georgian War last decade too.

 

[UCFKnight85]

He was at 0% until about a week ago - he's gained nearly 200K Twitter followers in a week. Every time he's on air the hosts and audience are beyond impressed.

How he performs in the first main debate in June will dictate how far he goes.

Ok that's fine, my point is that the Democratic field is like 50 people deep at this point and everyone is running pretty far left to one-up eachother. Even Shook Chicken has stated that he has no interest in a centrist or a moderate. I'm guessing that Shook Chicken's stance is pretty similar to most Democrats right now.

So how is this guy going to break through? Is he going to join everyone else and be just another far left quasi-socialist that gets lost in the pack against people with way deeper pockets? Or is he going to try and tow this "centrist" line at the dismay of people like Shook Chicken who have vowed not to vote for a centrist?

 

[fried-chicken]

That's because he's an insignificant nobody running below 2% in polling amongst Democrats.

Last poll I saw had him at 3% almost every Democrat who pays attention has fallen in love with him. When more people start paying attention he should be at around 10%

 

[UCFBS]

Vice-President has been the most useless job in DC since the very first, Adams, and he even said such, repeatedly (of course back then, you could be from the opposing party, and even more useless, but that's another story). It's weird how that is, most useless, but then first-in-line for the President, whether the President dies, or in the next election.

BTW, I'm still laughing at Mr. Cult of the Dead Cow (CDC). I'm hoping he gets it, so everything will implode. I have utter distain for him (but that too is another story).

As far as the Republicans, Bill Weld will draw a lot of interest in 2020, just like Gary Johnson did in 2012 ... and the GOP will pull a Johnson on Weld again. I.e., doesn't matter how high Weld is polling, he will be 'left out' of the 2nd debate. Although this is still the best time for an incumbent challenger since Johnson in 1968 ... although the GOP won't allow Weld anymore than they did Johnson.

 

[bqknight]

Ok that's fine, my point is that the Democratic field is like 50 people deep at this point and everyone is running pretty far left to one-up eachother. Even Shook Chicken has stated that he has no interest in a centrist or a moderate. I'm guessing that Shook Chicken's stance is pretty similar to most Democrats right now.

So how is this guy going to break through? Is he going to join everyone else and be just another far left quasi-socialist that gets lost in the pack against people with way deeper pockets? Or is he going to try and tow this "centrist" line at the dismay of people like Shook Chicken who have vowed not to vote for a centrist?

I think he's pretty far to the left but not the farthest. I think the difference is that he can articulate his ideas in a way that really makes you listen. He isn't shouting at you, he makes sense. Even if you don't agree with his policies, you can understand why he feels the way he does - which is something I think a lot of politicians lack.

He's running on "generational change" - which I think you squawked at the last time I mentioned him in this thread. I love his line of "Washington should start looking like our best run cities, not the other way around." and him leaning into the fact that he is young - he's thinking about the future. What will our decisions right now mean for him and us when we're the age of the current president?

He's also from the Midwest - somewhere the Dems NEED to get back in order to win the White House. He can speak to both blue collar and white collar workers.

I'm excited to see more of his thoughts. He's still in the "get people to know me" phase - so there's still some lack of substance IMO.

 

[UCFBS]

I love his line of "Washington should start looking like our best run cities, not the other way around."

Define 'best cities'? That's where I start to be lost.

He's also from the Midwest - somewhere the Dems NEED to get back in order to win the White House. He can speak to both blue collar and white collar workers.

Right now all I care about is someone who f'ing understand real economics, and not this 'reserve spending' and 'raising taxes on the rich' (which won't make a dent).

The former is what the Republicans also do, overspend, but the latter is something that is pretty much unique to the Democrats. Although Trump's tax law does raise taxes on the top 3-5% who live in high income tax states.

So far ... only the Libertarian party offers people who understand both. But I'm willing to very much seriously consider any Democratic or Republican candidate who understands such.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I think he's pretty far to the left but not the farthest. I think the difference is that he can articulate his ideas in a way that really makes you listen. He isn't shouting at you, he makes sense. Even if you don't agree with his policies, you can understand why he feels the way he does - which is something I think a lot of politicians lack.

He's running on "generational change" - which I think you squawked at the last time I mentioned him in this thread. I love his line of "Washington should start looking like our best run cities, not the other way around." and him leaning into the fact that he is young - he's thinking about the future. What will our decisions right now mean for him and us when we're the age of the current president?

He's also from the Midwest - somewhere the Dems NEED to get back in order to win the White House. He can speak to both blue collar and white collar workers.

I'm excited to see more of his thoughts. He's still in the "get people to know me" phase - so there's still some lack of substance IMO.

We'll see. A lot will depend on whether he's going to start attaching his name to these far left policy ideas that are going to be a bitch to defend once the price tags are scored. And if he does, IMO he'll just get lost in the pack of lefties already signing up for those things.

As for the Midwest, it'll be kinda hard doing better there if the DNC runs a far left candidate as Shook Chicken wants. Biden is polling the best there right now because he's saying things like he's a capitalist and not jumping head first into policy proposals that have $50 - 90 Trillion price tags.

 

[UCFWayne]

Toadie trolling aside, who are the folks who are getting on the Mayor Pete bandwagon? At the risk of further Red Hat ridicule, I’m going to share what I think is in play here for those folks around the country he’s impressing.

Beyond his obvious competence and command of the issues, my take is there’s a fresh, almost wide-eyed innocence about his approach to politics that makes people feel like they’ve been washed clean of all the mud and slime. Just as Trump set himself apart in 2016 by “not talking like a politician,” Pete does the same thing in a completely different way. He actually listens to questions and answers them without resorting to regurgitated sound bites. As with everything and everybody, Pete is one scandal away from having it all come crashing down. But if the Republican think they can take him down by focusing attention on his homosexuality, I think they’ll be in for a surprise.

Simply put, he inspires hope again and I doubted I would ever feel that way about a modern day politician again.

this guy has no chance in 2020. dnc has probably already started rigging their primaries for one of their top 3 choices. if he and the dnc are smart, they will try to move him up to a bigger roll like governor/senator asap. he has a good shot in 2024 and beyond.

 

[fried-chicken]

this guy has no chance in 2020. dnc has probably already started rigging their primaries for one of their top 3 choices. if he and the dnc are smart, they will try to move him up to a bigger roll like governor/senator asap. he has a good shot in 2024 and beyond.

He can't win in Indiana. They could have made him chairperson of the DNC but they didnt.

My guess is that he'll win the primary and if he doesn't then he'll make a very attractive VP candidate.

There's no rush though. He won't be Trump's age until 2054 so why burn his 8 years up so early.

 

[Poolside Knight]

The left literally are at odds with the facts.

In fact, the Russians are dumping a lot of money in an anti-Trump campaign right now, just like they do anyone who is the person who least favors them. The US media loves they money, and has since the Georgian War last decade too.

bc the Russians big picture goal is destroy the United States from within. They may favor a candidate but their main goal is chaos & division near Civil War levels bc they know that will weaken this nation. Look at the Cal exit campaign to have California split and become it's own nation, it was found out that there was probably a lot of Russian money given towards that and their bot farms were pushing it on social media. As much as dumb rednecks would cheer that there is a reason the Russians would love it, it weakens us.

 

[Poolside Knight]

this guy has no chance in 2020. dnc has probably already started rigging their primaries for one of their top 3 choices. if he and the dnc are smart, they will try to move him up to a bigger roll like governor/senator asap. he has a good shot in 2024 and beyond.

he is really impressive but I think even if he has some success early he will struggle in the non Florida Deep Southern States

 

[bqknight]

he is really impressive but I think even if he has some success early he will struggle in the non Florida Deep Southern States

Any Dem would - the South is red - that's not going to change. It's how he can do in the Midwest, Florida and the other "purple" states.

 

[Poolside Knight]

Any Dem would - the South is red - that's not going to change. It's how he can do in the Midwest, Florida and the other "purple" states.

was talking about the primary