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Bruh, just keep quoting and answering yourself. It'll come to you.
Good post, value add 👍

I'll restate:

1) Event triggers child -> 2) child can't cope -> 3) easy access to gun(s) -> 4) easy access to schools / minimal deterrents.

I've only heard/read discussions attempting to solve steps 3 and 4.

#2 is where the focus needs to be.

Does anyone else agree?
 
Good post, value add 👍

I'll restate:

1) Event triggers child -> 2) child can't cope -> 3) easy access to gun(s) -> 4) easy access to schools / minimal deterrents.

I've only heard/read discussions attempting to solve steps 3 and 4.

#2 is where the focus needs to be.

Does anyone else agree?
Are you going to ignore #3 if #2 is mentally incapable?
 
So is children's dimished ability to cope with loss / defeat appropriately off the table of potential contributors to our nation's mass shooting phenomena?

Mental instability / Lack of Coping mechanisms is further up the chronological path of events leading to shootings...

1) Event triggers child -> 2) child can't cope -> 3) easy access to gun(s) -> 4) easy access to schools / minimal deterrents.

I've only heard/read discussions on steps 3 and 4.

#2 is where the focus needs to be.

Does anyone else agree?
Everyone agrees you are a goddamn idiot.

Unless you think America is the only country in the world that doesn't allow their children to cope properly.
 
Are you going to ignore #3 if #2 is mentally incapable?

Mentally incapable...I've thought that too, but many liberal media outlets would lead you to believe that's not a possibility... And a few on this board might bash you for that consideration.

Let's pull that thread... One would think mentally incapable behaviors would be observed in advance of a total break down leading to a shooting event... Say at annual pediatric / Dr. appointments, or school counselor assessments.

Here's a thought, instead of funding Gender Assignment Affirmation initiatives, our federal government funds a psychological component to annual medical assessments.
 
hen you've got a guy like Mike that has literally said he would probably have killed someone if he owned a gun and we have more proof that gun control isn't necessary because those that know guns don't commit crimes with them.
And if you owned a gun you would have probably blown your brains out 10 x over

Oh wait…., you just do it for attention
 
Mentally incapable...I've thought that too, but many liberal media outlets would lead you to believe that's not a possibility... And a few on this board might bash you for that consideration.

Let's pull that thread... One would think mentally incapable behaviors would be observed in advance of a total break down leading to a shooting event... Say at annual pediatric / Dr. appointments, or school counselor assessments.

Here's a thought, instead of funding Gender Assignment Affirmation initiatives, our federal government funds a psychological component to annual medical assessments.
Ok, are you actually trying to find answers here or are you trying to serve your own agenda via red herrings?
 
Everyone agrees you are a goddamn idiot.

Unless you think America is the only country in the world that doesn't allow their children to cope properly.
Parking Lot that 1st comment please.

You seem like a recent college grad, or attendee, so I won't pick on you... You may have accidentally misread/misinterpreted my coping comment... I'm suggesting US kids "can't" cope, as in they are not trained/taught/conditioned by their parents and culture.

What do think the contributing factor to these events are / may be? Your 'independently' formed opinion, not Cable News or group think talking points.
 
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Parking Lot that 1st comment please.

You seem like a recent college grad, or attendee, so I won't pick on you... You may have accidentally misread/misinterpreted my coping comment... I'm suggesting US kids "can't" cope, as in they are not trained/taught/conditioned by their parents and culture.

What do think the contributing factor to these events are / may be? Your 'independently' formed opinion, not Cable News or group think talking points.
For the last time, and I'll type slowly for you: why is it only American children that are the only ones in the world that (according to you) are not taught to "cope" and thus end up shooting up schools?

Never mind.

I forgot I am dealing with a mentally disabled cult member. It is impossible to use logic and reason to change your mind. You are going on the ignore list with the other idiots who have proved themselves incapable of rational thought until you prove otherwise. Good luck on your journey to get smarter than a 3rd grader.
 
Dictators love countries with unarmed citizens. The United States would be controlled by Britain if we didn't have guns. Hence why it is the 2nd amendment. Morons here.

About all I'm in favor to change is taxing them much more.
 
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For the last time, and I'll type slowly for you: why is it only American children that are the only ones in the world that (according to you) are not taught to "cope" and thus end up shooting up schools?

Never mind.

I forgot I am dealing with a mentally disabled cult member. It is impossible to use logic and reason to change your mind. You are going on the ignore list with the other idiots who have proved themselves incapable of rational thought until you prove otherwise. Good luck on your journey to get smarter than a 3rd grader.
Comical 😂

Still no content in your post... It's like talking with a doorknob, or a toaster 😂😂😂

Let's carry on in the Parking Lot, you noob.
 
The United States would be controlled by Britain if we didn't have guns. Hence why it is the 2nd amendment. Morons here.

About all I'm in favor to change is taxing them much more.
That would totally suck. Their accents blow. But they have free health care so maybe…but nah…Murica!
 
So is children's dimished ability to cope with loss / defeat appropriately off the table of potential contributors to our nation's mass shooting phenomena?

Mental instability / Lack of Coping mechanisms is further up the chronological path of events leading to shootings...

1) Event triggers child -> 2) child can't cope -> 3) easy access to gun(s) -> 4) easy access to schools / minimal deterrents.

I've only heard/read discussions on steps 3 and 4.

#2 is where the focus needs to be.

Does anyone else agree?
Two Words: Lockdown Fallout

No one wants to admit it, but ... the nation's psychologists warned and warned and warned.

We're going to see even far worse effects than the 50-60,000 people, mostly 65+, we 'saved.'
 
For the last time, and I'll type slowly for you: why is it only American children that are the only ones in the world that (according to you) are not taught to "cope" and thus end up shooting up schools?
For the last time ... your statistics and analysis aren't matching the real ones.

This is an US Media'ism and does not actually match per-capita statistics. Take the EU as a whole, and not individual, smaller countries, or at least start looking at France, recognizing they are 1/6th the US population, and your arguments quickly change.

Even the Lo Countries deal with all sorts of disenfranchized youths, like France, but they are just very tiny.
 


Interesting move by a Democrat. Hope this doesn't cause liberals to riot
KY-TN-AL and others are the most likely states to understand the tactical realities.

More and more are realizing ... 'Blah-Free' and 'Hope' are only bigger targets, not solutions.

The pro-control left loves to say 'Thoughts and Prayers,' but their 'Hope is just their form of Thought, and their False-God of Gun-Free, is just their form of Prayer' are far worse.
 
KY-TN-AL and others are the most likely states to understand the tactical realities.

More and more are realizing ... 'Blah-Free' and 'Hope' are only bigger targets, not solutions.

The pro-control left loves to say 'Thoughts and Prayers,' but their 'Hope is just their form of Thought, and their False-God of Gun-Free, is just their form of Prayer' are far worse.

Why are Ky, Tn, and AL more likely to understand tactical realities? WHat does that even mean.
 
That would totally suck. Their accents blow. But they have free health care so maybe…but nah…Murica!
The Tube in London is much cleaner and seemingly much safer then the likes of Chicago's L, ATL's MARTA, DC and NYC's equivalent... I've used all.

Why? Maybe the accents? Maybe the culture? Police presence and respect? ...don't know, just sharing 1st hand observations.
 
Why are Ky, Tn, and AL more likely to understand tactical realities? WHat does that even mean.
Comparatively more gun deaths per capita than the national average in those states. In fact Alabama has the 2nd highest rate in the country behind Alaska. So they know a thing or two about being face to face with someone wielding a firearm.
 



So now the AR-15 is one of the most powerful guns in the world? Lol, this is why the left can't be trusted to discuss gun control.
 
Dictators love countries with unarmed citizens. The United States would be controlled by Britain if we didn't have guns. Hence why it is the 2nd amendment. Morons here.

About all I'm in favor to change is taxing them much more.
Yeah, your firearms are going to protect you against a United States military coup. Do you think that if trump was successful overthrowing the government, that US soldiers are going to shoot US civilians? The second amendment was written for a different time when we didn't have a "WELL REGULATED MILITIA"
 
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Yeah, your firearms are going to protect you against a United States military coup. Do you think that if trump was successful overthrowing the government, that US soldiers are going to shoot US civilians? The second amendment was written for a different time when we didn't have a "WELL REGULATED MILITIA"
According to Biden, we would need F15s to fight off the military. Are you saying the military wouldn't use them against us?
 
Yeah, your firearms are going to protect you against a United States military coup.
Yes. Insurrections work ... unless the military dictator is just going to have the military bomb and blow up everything. And in that case, they will have utterly lost.

But if you know your US history, there will never be a military dictatorship. No US military officer will allow it, and any popular military leader will be prevented by the rest of the US military. What is more likely is ..

A secret, 'dirty war' type military actions, under a civilian leadership (some say this has repeatedly happened already -- Clinton, W., Obama, Trump, Biden ... take your pick), which is the prime reason we must stay armed!

Individual citizenship able to resist, and form militias, is no different today than 250 years ago. Heck, look at how our debt and everything else is lining-up like 230 years ago. It's not going to be pretty. And when the fits hits the shan, here's the reality ...

The government and law enforcement cannot do sh-- during lawlessness. Anyone who was around Katrina and others knows that! Same with various other incidents of lawlessness in the past 2 years. That's why we're also armed too!

Do you think that if trump was successful overthrowing the government,
Sigh ... you went full polarization there.

that US soldiers are going to shoot US civilians?
You're missing the fact that an armed citizenship forces the issue. If the citizenship isn't armed, and we don't have militias ...

Well, the British just rule forever. Same with any tyranny.

The second amendment was written for a different time when we didn't have a "WELL REGULATED MILITIA"
So you think the 1st Amendment is only about THE PRESS? Know your history!

Both the 1st and 2nd Amendment about the individual rights of pen and power to assemble into a press and militia ... the 2 primary reasons the rebellion started, the 2 biggest greivances.

The power of the press and the power of the militia comes from the individual, not the government. Anyone asserting otherwise does NOT know their history!

In fact, we're repeating it. Assange allegedly isn't press. Black panthers allegedly aren't militia. This gets old. The government does NOT define the press or militia!
 


Rare to see Hollywood go after Hollywood. Good stuff
Bill Maher is a true community socialist of the practical European flavor, and I mean that as complement, and recognizes the US already has socialism level of spending without the middle class taxes and regressive VAT to fund it. He's both considerate and critical, and he's far more freedom-focused these days, like some European countries, than the modern American Progressive who is shoving everything down our throats in a false sense of fair and inclusion with the taxpayers' guns. I literally cannot believe the left thinks they can get why they want without using the police state to enforce it.

I merely just disagree with Maher on which economic model is better, but we both see the oligarchy and authoritarianism with Americans no longer trusting each other and stupidly looking to the government.

Of course Maher doesn't like many Republicans views. I don't either. But we both recognize the Republicans are now embracing, out of sheer necessity and survival, Liberal concepts such as the 1st Amendment the left has abandoned, even the ACLU. It's not that the initial intent was wrong, about banning hateful speech, but it quickly became that anyone the left disagreed with was now hateful speech in some sick Kevin Bacon game of 3+ degrees of separation. This is utterly the whole reason for the 1st Amendment because Parliament acted like any criticism, let alone every protest they disagreed with, was insurrection. Big Tech is heavily funding the ACLU and their AI is driving this focus.

I thought the Covington Kids would wake them up, but they have quadrupled down. The courts, even the Progressive Justices, have tried to stop them, but they won't be. Unlike traditional media, Big Tech is impossible to sue, it's automated and answers to no one... and is 100x more profitable. It's a sick, twisted hypocrisy of the 1st Amendment, humans are out of the loop, but are listening to those advert engines, and their purposely fraudulent and even libelous articles, because it's money.

All the Republicans have to do is come out in support of Roe v. Wade, and point out even it allows restrictions on 3rd and even some 2nd trimester pregnancies and follow it to the letter, and they'd see a windfall of support. But nope. Just like the South who had legitimate grievances against the central bank and industry-oligarchy of the North, they will hold on to its arrogance en masse and assert women cannot be trusted like the African-American, and the state knows better than the individual female or minority. And that's why, just as in the case of the Civil War, the issues and wrongs will drag on for another 100 years. Because Americans refuse to deal with the underlying issues of Big Tech Social Media, just like the African-American remained abused for another century plus as the North wanted its cheap resources.

There are a growing mass of Republicans, between Trump and Abortion stances, and not just Libertarian-leaning, who are seriously considering forming minority parties that support the Republican party, and campaign with them, but are separate entities. We used to be like that, until almost a century ago. And I hope we get back to it, because everyone sees that Liberals are outcasts of the Democratic party in the 21st century.

In all cases... the US is going to be a painful experience for Americans in the future.

We are now the dying Merchant Republic, but turn more violent French than British. I don't know if it will be come revolution, I hope not, but AI is here, it's adverts, and it's 100x more popular than social media, getting us to divide ourselves and focus away from real problems. It's to get us to not look at Big Tech and the Industry who pays them, and the resulting oligarchy that controls Congress while it outlaws the 1st and 2nd Amendments just like the Hudson Bay, West Indies and other global trading corporations successfully did via Parliament 250 years ago.

I'm hitting 50. I don't have kids. If it comes to revolution, I won't be a part of it. But don't say I didn't tell you so if it does. Unless the left heeds Bill Maher, Big Tech is going to run the Civil Rights of this country right into the ground. It's even amazing how many rights citizens don't have that non-citizens do. But if I say that, I'm called anti-immigration. No, it's called hypocrisy. It's what the leadership of both the Greeks and Romans did... just to get votes, and it ran them right into the ground too... with plenty of bloodshed.

Our entire discourse is driven by what Big Tech AI says is the most profitable for advertising. It's the '90 24x7 news invention, but at 100x the margins with human compassion absent.
 
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Bill Maher is a true community socialist of the practical European flavor, and I mean that as complement, and recognizes the US already has socialism level of spending without the middle class taxes and regressive VAT to fund it. He's both considerate and critical, and he's far more freedom-focused these days, like some European countries, than the modern American Progressive who is shoving everything down our throats in a false sense of fair and inclusion with the taxpayers' guns. I literally cannot believe the left thinks they can get why they want without using the police state to enforce it.

I merely just disagree with Maher on which economic model is better, but we both see the oligarchy and authoritarianism with Americans no longer trusting each other and stupidly looking to the government.

Of course Maher doesn't like Republicans. I don't either. We both recognize the Republicans are now embracing, out of sheer necessity and survival, Liberal concepts such as the 1st Amendment the left has abandoned, even the ACLU. It's not that the intent was wrong, about banning hateful speech, but it quickly became that anyone the left disagreed with was not hateful speech in some sick Kevin Bacon game of 3+ degrees of separation. Big Tech is heavily funding the ACLU and their AI is driving their focus.

I thought the Covington Kids would wake them up, but they have quadrupled down. The courts, even the Progressive Justices, have tried to stop them, but they won't be. Unlike traditional media, Big Tech is impossible to sue, it's automated and answers to know one... and is 100x more profitable. It's a sick, twisted hypocrisy of the 1st Amendment, humans are out of the loop, but are listening to those advert engines, and their purposely fraudulent and even libelous articles, because it's money.

All the Republicans have to do is come out in support of Roe v. Wade, and point out even it allows restrictions on 3rd and even some 2nd trimester pregnancies and follow it to the letter, and they'd see a windfall of support. But nope. Just like the South who had legitimate grievances against the central bank and industry-oligarchy of the North, they will hold on to its arrogance en masse and assert women cannot be trusted like the African-American, and the state knows better than the individual female or minority. And that's why, just as in the case of the Civil War, the issues and wrongs will drag on for another 100 years.

There are a growing mass of Republicans, between Trump and Abortion stances, and not just Libertarian-leaning, who are seriously considering forming minority parties that support the Republican party, and campaign with them, but are separate entities. We used to be like that, until almost a century ago. And I hope we get back to it, because everyone sees that Liberals are outcasts of the Democratic party in the 21st century.

In all cases... the US is going to be a painful experience for Americans in the future.

We are now the dying Merchant Republic, but turn more violent French than British. I don't know if it will be come revolution, I hope not, but AI is here, it's adverts, and it's 100x more popular than social media, getting us to divide ourselves and focus away from real problems. It's to get us to not look at Big Tech and the Industry who pays them, and the resulting oligarchy that controls Congress while it outlaws the 1st and 2nd Amendments just like the Hudson Bay, West Indies and other global trading corporations successfully did via Parliament 250 years ago.
605 words.
 


Looks like a weapons ban is off the table, but increased school security is. More of a spending bill than a gun control bill, really.
 
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Bill Maher is a true community socialist of the practical European flavor, and I mean that as complement, and recognizes the US already has socialism level of spending without the middle class taxes and regressive VAT to fund it. He's both considerate and critical, and he's far more freedom-focused these days, like some European countries, than the modern American Progressive who is shoving everything down our throats in a false sense of fair and inclusion with the taxpayers' guns. I literally cannot believe the left thinks they can get why they want without using the police state to enforce it.

I merely just disagree with Maher on which economic model is better, but we both see the oligarchy and authoritarianism with Americans no longer trusting each other and stupidly looking to the government.

Of course Maher doesn't like many Republicans views. I don't either. But we both recognize the Republicans are now embracing, out of sheer necessity and survival, Liberal concepts such as the 1st Amendment the left has abandoned, even the ACLU. It's not that the initial intent was wrong, about banning hateful speech, but it quickly became that anyone the left disagreed with was now hateful speech in some sick Kevin Bacon game of 3+ degrees of separation. This is utterly the whole reason for the 1st Amendment because Parliament acted like any criticism, let alone every protest they disagreed with, was insurrection. Big Tech is heavily funding the ACLU and their AI is driving this focus.

I thought the Covington Kids would wake them up, but they have quadrupled down. The courts, even the Progressive Justices, have tried to stop them, but they won't be. Unlike traditional media, Big Tech is impossible to sue, it's automated and answers to no one... and is 100x more profitable. It's a sick, twisted hypocrisy of the 1st Amendment, humans are out of the loop, but are listening to those advert engines, and their purposely fraudulent and even libelous articles, because it's money.

All the Republicans have to do is come out in support of Roe v. Wade, and point out even it allows restrictions on 3rd and even some 2nd trimester pregnancies and follow it to the letter, and they'd see a windfall of support. But nope. Just like the South who had legitimate grievances against the central bank and industry-oligarchy of the North, they will hold on to its arrogance en masse and assert women cannot be trusted like the African-American, and the state knows better than the individual female or minority. And that's why, just as in the case of the Civil War, the issues and wrongs will drag on for another 100 years. Because Americans refuse to deal with the underlying issues of Big Tech Social Media, just like the African-American remained abused for another century plus as the North wanted its cheap resources.

There are a growing mass of Republicans, between Trump and Abortion stances, and not just Libertarian-leaning, who are seriously considering forming minority parties that support the Republican party, and campaign with them, but are separate entities. We used to be like that, until almost a century ago. And I hope we get back to it, because everyone sees that Liberals are outcasts of the Democratic party in the 21st century.

In all cases... the US is going to be a painful experience for Americans in the future.

We are now the dying Merchant Republic, but turn more violent French than British. I don't know if it will be come revolution, I hope not, but AI is here, it's adverts, and it's 100x more popular than social media, getting us to divide ourselves and focus away from real problems. It's to get us to not look at Big Tech and the Industry who pays them, and the resulting oligarchy that controls Congress while it outlaws the 1st and 2nd Amendments just like the Hudson Bay, West Indies and other global trading corporations successfully did via Parliament 250 years ago.

I'm hitting 50. I don't have kids. If it comes to revolution, I won't be a part of it. But don't say I didn't tell you so if it does. Unless the left heeds Bill Maher, Big Tech is going to run the Civil Rights of this country right into the ground. It's even amazing how many rights citizens don't have that non-citizens do. But if I say that, I'm called anti-immigration. No, it's called hypocrisy. It's what the leadership of both the Greeks and Romans did... just to get votes, and it ran them right into the ground too... with plenty of bloodshed.

Our entire discourse is driven by what Big Tech AI says is the most profitable for advertising. It's the '90 24x7 news invention, but at 100x the margins with human compassion absent.
Why would Republicans come out in favor of a SCOTUS overreach? They should be about putting it back in the legislature’s hand where it belonged in the first place. As should Libertarians.
 
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Why would Republicans come out in favor of a SCOTUS overreach? They should be about putting it back in the legislature’s hand where it belonged in the first place. As should Libertarians.
Because it's an individual, civil right, which Republicans should embrace. It was one of their original foundations of the party... back when they knew their way, which hasn't been as much since after Einsenhower.
 
Because it's an individual, civil right, which Republicans should embrace. It was one of their original foundations of the party... back when they knew their way, which hasn't been as much since after Einsenhower.
It is neither a civil nor a natural right under our Constitution. That is the issue. The court invented the right out of nearly whole cloth. The legislature should do it's job and codify it as a civil right and not the 9 people sitting on the SCOTUS.
 
It is neither a civil
I strongly disagree. Once you let the state define not only what you can do with your body, but default to being responsible for things beyond their body as a result after, you are promoting the state put a burden on the citizen.

BTW, this works both ways. I've long warned womens groups not to keep using the state against men, to the point men don't have a choice. The gun up against the head of any citizen to force them into 18+ years of servitude is always wrong.

And please don't give me 'the choice' was in the intercourse. That has been used for far too long to limit choice in even contraception and other things. We keep interfering more and more with people's bedrooms and it's about time the state keeps out.

This includes not interfering with parents who do raise children as well. Again, it goes both ways and the state is way, way too involved all around! We need to start trusting our fellow American citizens and stop using the state to butt into their bodies, lives and families.

nor a natural right under our Constitution.
Just as the Anti-Federalists argued against the Bill of Rights ... if it's not spelled out specifically, then people will say it's not a right. I love how both the Federalist and anti-Federalists were right.

People must be in charge of their own bodies, and not the mob of the taxpayers with the government's guns. This 'get them before they get themselves' (and no one else) has to end. We are killing people before they suicide themselves (and no one else) too ... sometimes the police state take innocent others with them too.

That is the issue. The court invented the right out of nearly whole cloth. The legislature should do it's job and codify it as a civil right and not the 9 people sitting on the SCOTUS.
Roe v. Wade works fine as-is, and even allows for states to set limits on 3rd and even 2nd trimester abortions.
 
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