Another school shooting
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It's in the Bill of Rights, written by the people from over 100 submissions ... the top 8 individual greviances against the British Crown in order of what led them to rebell.
1)
Status - Largely Gone: Journalists can be jailed for failing to identify sources, even merely encouraging them to give information, "national security." We also do not require 'free speech zones' on the Internet, unlike in reality. It is not applied to the Digital Age at all, and enough of the courts have even been ruling that way!
2)
Status - Virtually Gone: Too many people saying the Federally Trained National Guard is now the militia, even though it serves the Federal Exeuctive, and does not need Governor approval to activate (courtesy, yes, but not required, by law). The people are largely ignoring the laws in various states, including a documented 95% disobedience rate in New York (by their own, NY State Supreme Court), including by minorities trying to protect their families where police will not, as much as rural white neighborhoods. No change in statistics from any gun control/confiscation laws! The Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) did nothing to lower either the number of shootings nor the number dead/rate of deaths -- in fact, the DoJ/FBI confirmed no change in both their mandated 1997 (statistics 1994-1996) and 2000 (1997-1999) reviews of the AWB!
3) Outlawing the individual right to one's home and the denial to house troops, the crown (state in its name) treating private property as the state's at all times
Status - Remains: But not an issue today -- this is the only Bill of Right that is outdated
4)
Status - Compeltely Gone: Large seizures are daily over petty posession, and the wide berth of 'probably cause' just in the last 25 years of 'fighting drugs' that has gone overboard, with a 7-fold increase in non-violent incarcertaions, denial of due process and jailing people, and even when they win against the state over seizure, the state refuses to return it, and forces people to 'settle' for only 30-40% of that which is seized.
5)
Status - Partially Gone: Only applies once Miranda Rights have been read, not before. This is why it is important to seek a lawyer and state you will not say anything until you have an attorney present. You will be hard pressed to find a judge or law professional who will not allow the state to run that silence can be used against someone if they were asking for an attourney. But if they say nothing before they have been charged/arrested and read their Miranda Rights, that has and is used against people now!
Should I go on?!
How about I come over and show you what a 20+1 automatic (fires on a single trigger pull) rifle from 1779 looks like, and what it can do ... or the first, modern cartridges and repeating handguns from the early 1800s. These are all from within the time of our framers.
And have you ever been in a disaster area with virtually no effective law where the only thing between you and getting ass raped is a firearm?! You'd be amazed how 90%+ of individual Americans come together to defend against the sub-10% of lawlessness!
That doesn't happen without firearms!
And if you want to see what inner city gang and organized crime violence looks like first hand ... take away guns from the suburbs and rual and you will see what no deterence looks like when organized crime overruns them! Even minority families have firearms for protection, and some openly are argue so, in states with strong control, because of such!
Gun control hurts law abiding minorities most!
The 27 words needs to be omitted. It’s obsolete. People are taking it and running. Literally wearing 2nd amendment T-shirts
I know you support 19 children being executed and their heads blown off, but hey, nobody ever accused you of being sane. You care more about being anti-government than the slaughter of CHILDREN.
And the Virginia Constitutional entry it is based on.
It was the 2nd most requested Right by the people who submitted, after the right to speech and assemble into a press free of government control ... the right to firearms and assemble into a militia free of government control.
If you read the people of the late 1800s, you will see their plights of megacorporations and oligarchy in the legislative that brought wars, control and high burdens is no different than today!
The Hundson Bay, West Indies and lots of Fur Trading companies wanted to split up the 'developed' American colonies by having their corporate crown charters (yes, the colonies were corporations) yanked by the crown in a hostile takeover -- and they were! -- all while the military was more than interested in, and then directly supported, the taking the undeveloped lands of no interest to fur traders and their new plantations to create a new, American aristocracy!
It's the same ****ing problem all over again! Only now it's our US Congress in a dying Merchant Republic who wants to take away private ownership ... and that starts with taking away speech along with self-defense in an 1-2!
It's not even about guns, but the right to defend yourself in your own home with anything! Wrestle a knife away from an intruder and kill him? Mandatory manslaughter! And you cannot get any insurance to pay for your lawyers either!
I know you support 19 children being executed and their heads blown off, but hey, nobody ever accused you of being sane. You care more about being anti-government and the above rambling than the slaughter of CHILDREN.
Do you understand you literally were supporting the putting of guns to peoples' heads to make them stay home during the lockdowns, and then forcing them to get jabs, before they could work, have any livelihood, even if they worked remotely?!
Did you not read the federal mandate?! It applied to even people who never leave their homes! And the same with the OSHA BS (that the SCOTUS rejected, thankfully) on private, let me say that again, private companies who did not even have federal contracts at all?!
This is what the end of freedom looks like. People like you using the mob of taxpayer funded government guns against your fellow Americans! Leave us alone!
Did you not read the federal mandate?! It applied to even people who never leave their homes! And the same with the OSHA BS (that the SCOTUS rejected, thankfully) on private, let me say that again, private companies who did not even have federal contracts at all?!
This is what the end of freedom looks like. People like you using the mob of taxpayer funded government guns against your fellow Americans! Leave us alone!
You’re on a tangent. Wrong thread. Stop with your deranged, pathologic, COVID vaccine OBSESSION
You don't get it. Our civil rights are being utterly eroded by the state, causing the psychological and sociological breakdowns we're seeing ... especially in young people!
Guns have not changed much at all in 135+ years! But ask any psychologist ... and they'll tell you what did change 2 years ago! But ... no ... it's the guns, and a lack of an Assault Weapons Ban ... or even the 2nd Amendment existing. Sigh ...
BTW, my favorite channel on YouTube and how bad police 'standard procedure' is getting.
Again, it's not necessarily the police, but the politicians and their standard procedures that don't give a flying f' about civil rights and even the law. Thankfully we do have people who care.
The 1st Amendment, the 4th Amendment ... even the 2nd Amendment and 5th Amendments. It's all in there! Especially seizure! (4th Amendment)
Again, it's not necessarily the police, but the politicians and their standard procedures that don't give a flying f' about civil rights and even the law. Thankfully we do have people who care.
The 1st Amendment, the 4th Amendment ... even the 2nd Amendment and 5th Amendments. It's all in there! Especially seizure! (4th Amendment)
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You sure do tie yourself in knots in the name of trying to hold to some vision you have of a political ideology.
The natural rights are the right to life, liberty, and property. That unborn child has a natural right to life that doesn't magically appear once it is exposed to air. You cannot just deprive that human life of it's natural right because you want to claim a civil right exists in a courtroom decision. That type of action requires democratically elected representatives to decide to intrude upon that natural right. Courts are not allowed to create rights, period.
As for your emotional appeal. Medication abortions are largely replacing physical abortions, especially in countries in places like Latin American and the Caribbean where legal abortions are highly restricted. The coat hanger in the back alley is going away and the black market for medicinal abortifacients is alive and well around the world. It is less safe for someone to take a pill without medical supervision for sure but it isn't nearly as dangerous as the coat hanger process that everyone uses as the only alternative to fully legal abortion.
Oh, and those anti-Federalists that you mention would've strung you up for using them in an argument in favor of abortion.
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It's being interpreted wrong? It's probably in the top 10 of most examined paragraphs in history. Politicians, judges, linguistic experts, and historians have spent a lot of time trying to figure out what it means and where we are is what those experts have concluded.
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It’s being interpreted by morons who think that they have the right as INDIVIDUALS to BUY AS MANY GUNS AS THEY WANT and to KILL AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY CAN.
Was it in question whether an individual had a right to buy a gun when they could order one from a Sears catalog in 1915? Was it in question in 1820 when people could walk into a trade store and walk out a few minutes later with a gun?
If the 2nd amendment is being misinterpreted, it's been misinterpreted since day one and the founders just didn't speak up I guess.
Did Mikes literally equate people buying as many guys as they want, if they pass a background check, including mental and restraining orders (which is already federal law), meaning increased deaths from those guns? That them buying 30 means they will kill 10x as many people as 3?
And I hope Mikes understands firearm dealers report, and usually flat out deny, people who try to buy a whole slew of firearms, and they do talk to each other and report it to FBI-CJIS. In fact, that's how the whole 'gunrunning' started. The W's ATF-FBI (really more ATF than FBI, FBI was powerless to stop them) started telling stores to sell them, against the store's better judgement, and it ended up being a failure.
Then Obama's ATF-FBI (again, more ATF than FBI) started forcing stores to sell them, and had orders of magnitude more going out, to the point politicians were unknowingly (or possibly knowingly in the case of Feinstein?) holding up those guns after crimes, saying Americans were illegally selling them to organized crime en masse.
And that's when 3 ATF agents whistleblew ...
And they were totally retaliated against by the Obama administration's ATF. Because the US gov't was purposely causing public harm and purposely trying to get the American public against any gun sales, by forcing gun stores and resellers to sell, even when they didn't want to, and knew where there were going. Because, as always ...
Government creates the best and biggest problems.
We used to understand that as voters, and avoided the government being involved.
But now ... it's standard thought as voters ... government is the solution, by default.
Ladies and gentlement ... I now give you the statistics ... of the post-lockdown!
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Mike is your typical liberal when it comes to guns. They know nothing other than the AR-15 looks scary and is the biggest gun in history.
You child killers and mentally unstable suicidal racists don’t understand what the second amendment was meant to accomplish if you think that it has anything to do with what’s going on now
Not needed to be in the possession of the general public you child killer lover
They weren’t using it in the 19th century as it being OK to stockpile a personal arsenal to shoot up grocery stores and schools you imbecile
It still comes down to the fact that we have an individual right to buy, possess, and carry whatever firearm we want.
Well… that’s why they are changing the laws and the 2nd amendment needs to be repealed you suicidal, racist, unemployed, celibate. child killer
I have a lot of anxiety about this christmas. After 2 suicidal episodes this year I am really uncomfortable with the idea of being around the in-laws. This year has also brought about changes with my girls. I got divorced 8 years ago and had full custody of my kids until this year. They moved in with their mom in january and things have been pretty difficult between us since then. Nobody, including my wife, has been terribly supportive of what I've been dealing with this year and I've been putting on a happy face whenever I'm asked how things are going because when I'm honest it makes things worse. I'm just tired of it and now its going to be in my face for the next few days. Nobody understands but everybody has a solution.
Sorry to vent. Merry christmas to everyone"
And Payable On Death (P.O.D.) didn't write 'Youth of the Nation' to immortalize everyday inner-city, everyday, minority youth gun violence that consumes the super-majority of teenage deaths other than from suicide (especially now that we defined 'kids' as all teenagers, including 18-19, no longer adults). No, that would bring real attention to a real statistics, and actually might drive people -- especially white people -- to want to solve it.
No, they wrote a song immortailizing a bunch of more privileged kids who went on a rampage -- with no ARs, and actually AWB pistol weapons, like the TEC-9 explicitly banned by the law -- at Columbine. The minority statistic that isn't an outlier issue with regular violence, but one that takes hold when the immortailization of 24x7 news and media infamy, along with increased psychological distress after freedoms and childhood dreams are destroyed.
Sigh ... we are our own issue.
Not surprised that it went over your head and you verified it with your response.
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Over 200 people shot during the 4th of July weekend in America.
We really need to do something about our door problem. Maybe redesign the whole country with just one entrance?
We really need to do something about our door problem. Maybe redesign the whole country with just one entrance?
Door problems and if there had just been more police at that 4th of July parade in Highland Park, homeboy would have been blasted by the po poz.
Yep, just like at Uvalde. Where an officer had the terrorist in his sights but didn't shoot.
Uvalde officer aimed rifle at gunman outside school but didn't fire, new report finds.
Uvalde officer aimed rifle at gunman outside school but didn't fire, new report finds
The report details numerous law enforcement missteps in responding to the school shooting and says it's possible some people could have been saved.
www.statesman.com
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Absolutely horrific hallway video, 44 minutes of absolute inaction while children died.
This is 100% on the GOP and those who support them.
one cop was able to take a phone break and grab some hand sanitizer while children were murdered because republicans value guns over kids.
This is 100% on the GOP and those who support them.
one cop was able to take a phone break and grab some hand sanitizer while children were murdered because republicans value guns over kids.
I agree with you except it was 77 minutes. Enough time to watch the Nightmare Before Christmas start to end while kids were literally dying 50 feet away.
Rage inducing video. Especially that cop with the punisher logo and American flag on his phone. I'll be interested to see if these people are disciplined in any meaningful way, but I don't have my hopes up.
