Another school shooting
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Hospital. They were probably gonna die of Covid anyway*Annnnnnnnnnd here we go again. Can't wait to hear the noise.
(CNN)Multiple people were killed in a shooting Wednesday on a hospital campus in Tulsa, Oklahoma, according to the Tulsa Fire Department.
"The suspect did shoot and kill multiple people," spokesperson Andy Little told CNN, but was unable to provide specific numbers.
At least 4 people were killed in a Tulsa, Oklahoma, hospital campus shooting, police say | CNN
At least four people were killed Wednesday in a shooting on a hospital campus in Tulsa, Oklahoma, police said in a news conference Wednesday evening.www.cnn.com
I’d rather have Marines. Of course, I know a number of police who are Marines and a couple of former Army infantry who are police and charged a religious zealot firing rounds from an AR-15 at them while he screamed Allah Akbar! Stop painting all police with the same broad brush.
It’s not hard to have a single entry. Most schools already have the ability to have single entries and lock the rest of the doors. The elementary school in Uvalde had already gone part of the way there.
i guess the real question is: how valuable is our kids’ safety to our society? I mean, the billions of dollars that we sent to Ukraine and that we send for foreign aid regularly would go a hell of a long ways.
Of course it’s not. It’s not ensured by police officers or anything else. It’s not ensured by taking guns from the millions of legal carriers either. Your safety isn’t ensured anywhere. Which is why you have a right to self-defense which includes proportionally addressing the threat that is presented. So I ask you, how are you going to ensure my Constitutionally protected natural right to defend myself against a criminal with a gun once you’ve taken my guns from me?
$300,000 would build a single entry and provision door alarms. After that, the school system could easily pare down its bloated administration for security.
Regardless, I do believe that my steps for trying to work on this problem included mental health. Everyone else, other than goodknightfl, is just ban guns. So I ask you since you bring it up, how would you address mental health in this country?
Oh, and after all the calls for demilitarization of the police since Ferguson, don’t come calling for military in civilian circles now.
The difference between the shooter killing 21 people or not is access to the gun. It isn’t some magical missing security safeguard that wasn’t taken at the venue he chose to do the murdering.
The fire codes require exits not entrances. But all of those doors can be opened at need. Just aren’t during normal operations. The fire codes argument is being made by people who have no idea What they’re talking about.
This is absolutely hysterical. What could possibly go wrong?!?! LMAO. If Obama or AOC came up with something this stupid, you’d be bellyaching like a stuck pig.
And it is quite amazing/laughable how you continually dodge my other points and hammer home this one. More laughable, really.
Time to pray about it. Need to get on gods good side like this “lucky” guy.
abcnews.go.com
Survivor of 2 mass shootings in just over a year: 'Only thing I can attribute it to is God'
At least one of the survivors of Thousand Oakes’s night club shooting was also a survivor at Las Vegas music concert shooting last year.
"His protective hand over me that night, on Oct. 1, and last night."Time to pray about it. Need to get on gods good side like this “lucky” guy.
Survivor of 2 mass shootings in just over a year: 'Only thing I can attribute it to is God'
At least one of the survivors of Thousand Oakes’s night club shooting was also a survivor at Las Vegas music concert shooting last year.
But God said fück all those kids at Uvalde, amirite?
Damn this country is full of morons. It takes a special idiot to thank God for surviving two mass shootings and not being smart enough to realize maybe there's something massively wrong with a country that has mass shootings on a biweekly basis.
I've asked repeatedly why we allow 18 year olds to legally purchase assault rifles when they can't legally buy beer. Raising the age to 21 would seem like a common sense, 'across-the-political-spectrum,' no-brainer response if ever there was one.
But -- we're told here -- that step, alas, wouldn't stop ALL mass murders --- as if all the laws we enact are supposed to completely wipe out a problem or else why pass them.
Red herring after red herring. Let's keep discussing matters without actually discussing matters.
Anyhow, moving on from the stupidity of Ted Cruz and single entries:
www.cnn.com
Florida's red flag law, championed by Republicans, is taking guns from thousands of people | CNN Politics
Twice a week from her courtroom, Florida 13th Circuit Court Judge Denise Pomponio decides who in Hillsborough County can no longer be trusted with a gun.
Ok, so you're a fire marshall now. Ok, Mr. Fire Marshall expert, why don't you tell us what your assessment criteria is for building occupancies. I mean, since you relentlessly bully other people on this board for speaking out of their area of expertise, I'm sure that you would never do it.
Especially since you are so blatantly and idiotically wrong. There are millions of buildings in America that have doors all over them that only open from the inside while only one is accessible from the outside. Keep doubling down on your wrongful indignation though.
Ah, resorting to gaslighting now. You have one idea and it's guns, guns, guns. Go ahead and have your fantasy conversation where you talk about how you're going to legislate away all guns in the world because Prohibitions Work!
Some GOP actually did something and got blackballed by the NRA. Desantis would have vetoed it…Anyhow, moving on from the stupidity of Ted Cruz and single entries:
Florida's red flag law, championed by Republicans, is taking guns from thousands of people | CNN Politics
Twice a week from her courtroom, Florida 13th Circuit Court Judge Denise Pomponio decides who in Hillsborough County can no longer be trusted with a gun.
It's a cult dude.
These people are brainwashed cult members. You can't reason with them because they stopped caring about reason in 2016.
It’s just amazing how there is one constant (guns), but the people who don’t want to restrict them will use every other imaginable argument that comes with a bunch of variables
Blame the police, the judicial system sucks, mental health, bring up the 2nd amendment. Etc
We know the problem is multifactorial, but their a one constant. Guns. Specifically, high-powered (AR-15, etc.) forearms. It ALL starts there
Blame the police, the judicial system sucks, mental health, bring up the 2nd amendment. Etc
We know the problem is multifactorial, but their a one constant. Guns. Specifically, high-powered (AR-15, etc.) forearms. It ALL starts there
Even scarier is people believing that the difference between this dude murdering 21 people or not is an extra lock on a door and not access to a weapon designed for mass killing.
Let me guess:
The anti-vaxx group and the anti-guns killing kids group overlap to a large degree
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The anti-vaxx group and the anti-guns killing kids group overlap to a large degree
🤷♂️
Vaccines kill people!!!!
What about bad guys with guns?
EHRMEHRGERD MENTAL HEALTH!!!!! DOORS!!!!!! ARM 21-YEAR OLD TEACHERS!!!! IF JESUS HAD AN AR-15 HE COULDA FOUGHT OFF PONTIUS PILATE AND ALL THEM ROMANS!!!!!!
In April Texas cut $200 million from the dept that oversees mental health treatment in the state, and Texas currently ranks last in funding for mental health. So if they really do think it is about mental health (which they dont), then the only conclusion is just that they dont care about dead kids.
>white supremacy kills people!!!
>what about the gang shootings in Chicago?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
If you want to raise age to buy gun to 21, great, I don't think it will matter much but if you feel better great. Hell raise it to 27 when you officially become responsible for your own health insurance. You want to get rid of ugly military looking guns, Ok. but if I can buy a hunting rifle that looks old school but shoots exactly the same, I don't see what changes. These mass shootings were rarely a problem 40+ years ago, and the percentage of the public with arms likely was higher not lower. We have lost a moral compass, Common sense, is long gone, which is why car handbooks rather than telling people how to adjust valves now tells them not to lick the battery post.
Yeah, allowing kids to purchase AR-15s is no big deal.
Just ask the kids attending Robb Elementary, Sandy Hook, and Parkland. By the way, I could have listed 23 school shootings in the US THIS YEAR. Guess what? ALL of them were committed by an underage boy.
At least hunting rifles can't run through hundreds of bullets in seconds.
The AR-15s were our soldiers go-to weapon during the Vietnam War.
Wanna bet?
Totally agree. It's a headscratcher why we have people like you and sk8 who want to talk about everything about gun violence (unlocked door, single access points, violent video games, yadda, yadda, yadda) except answer the question why the general public needs high-powered assault rifes like the AR-15.
Here's a meet in the middle thought... Similar to some state driver's licence requirements, you can take a driver's class in order to obtain a driver's licence at an age (ex 16) earlier than state standard of 18.
I could see a similar 18 vs 21 age eligibility requirement/option.
Thoughts?
I could see a similar 18 vs 21 age eligibility requirement/option.
Thoughts?
That is not what I said. How many of these shootings happen from 18 year old's who bought the guns legally?Yeah, allowing kids to purchase AR-15s is no big deal.
how many bought the guns they used legally? just a question, not a statement.
The AK15 can shoot 45 bullets per minute, 1 with each pull of the trigger. Any semi auto rifle can do approx the same.
Again if you want to change the law, fine. change the Constitution first. Like it or not that is how US law works.
How many rounds can a semi auto rifle hold in its magazine vs. an AR-15?
The President mentioned changing the age. You don't have to change the Constitution to do that.
First of all, why does it matter if these guns were bought legally or not? We are wanting to ban them. Especially for those under 21. Yes, the AR-15 AND any semi-automatic rifle
Second of all, read and understand the 2nd Amendment. Obviously, you haven’t
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I know you are literally dumber than a toaster, but a metric **** ton of them were purchased legally, including Uvalde (the gunman tried to have his sister buy him one when he was 17, she refused, he waited a week after his 18th birthday to buy the two ARs he slaughtered children with).
Still waiting for the Pool cleaner to tell us all about magazine capacities between AR-15s and other rifles.
Pins and needles.
Pins and needles.
This still doesn't answer the question, how many of the mass shooters were under the age of 21 and bought their guns legally. Looking at your list you just put up. The Pittsburg shooter was 46, Tulsa dude was 45, Virginia Beach shooter was 40, The Thousand Oaks shooter was 28, the Parkland and Dayton shooters 24, the El Paso, Boulder, and Atlanta shooters were 21, 2 shooters, Buffalo and Tx, were 18 and bought their own guns legally.
So at most assuming the 2 underage shooters, would not have found a way to get the guns anyways, raising the age would have stopped 2 of the 10 shooting you reference. I said I had no problem with raising the age, but it would not have mattered in 80% of those cases.
I was looking for an answer to one and only one question, How many of the murders were done by minors who got the guns legally. You threw up a bunch of BS about the last 10 mass shootings where guns were obtained legally, mostly by adults. You wanted to prove your self smart but actually showed you own ignorance. You are now officially on the mindless robot list.
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^^^^^^^^^ Another member of the “do nothing” group who doesn’t support gun control and is Ok with innocent victims and children getting their heads and faces blown off. Tell that to the families of the victims.
Oh… so it WOULD HAVE MATTERED in 20% of the cases. That’s only one part of gun control, dumbass.
It’s all Ok until it’s one of your own. Then,
since “you’re so smart, ignorant and on the mindless robot list” in regards to gun control, we can all joke about it, right?
Still waiting for the Pool cleaner to tell us all about magazine capacities between AR-15s and other rifles.
This is how it goes for the likes of him and others who have posted in this thread:
Them: "Thoughts and prayers. We really need to do everything we can to prevent this from happening again."
People with brains: "How about we get rid of things like AR-15s, increase the age to purchase those weapons, and at a bare minimum, keep these devices out of the hands of the mentally ill."
THEM:
And on and on and on it goes.
School shooters are nearly always under 21 and have some connection to the school.
Uvalde
Sandy Hook
Parkland
Columbine
Santa Fe
These are the deadliest k-12 school shootings in the US and all committed by someone under the age of 21.
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