Changes to staff you want to see

[Knightgatorz]

Like a staph infection, this group of defensive “coaches” is slowly killing us. Yes, I borrowed the term staph to describe the defensive coaches from another board. Sue me. Addison lmao shouldve been fired last year, but somehow got a promotion. Well we have seen how god awful he’s been. His dbs have regressed every single year. He rivals Austin Armstrong for worst dc at a p5 school. He cannot come back. Lbs and defensive line was awful. I have no idea wtf David gibbs does, but he’s trash at it. Sims lbs have been atrocious. The dline has regressed. We need to see changes to this defensive group if we want to be serious. Oh btw no one is coming to play for Addison Williams so I don’t think we need to worry about losing recruits.

Special teams and tight end play have sucked donkey dick since Blackmon has been here. Where the hell did Pittman go? Wtf happened to boomer? Why the hell was he still trotting out Obarski last year. Wtf happened to McCarthy punting? Dude is the worst position coach we’ve ever had. Rob Sale is getting fired from uf. I’d probably grab him for te coach. Grab the special teams coach from Troy.


If we want to make changes that’s where we start

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Like a staph infection, this group of defensive “coaches” is slowly killing us. Yes, I borrowed the term staph to describe the defensive coaches from another board. Sue me. Addison lmao shouldve been fired last year, but somehow got a promotion. Well we have seen how god awful he’s been. His dbs have regressed every single year. He rivals Austin Armstrong for worst dc at a p5 school. He cannot come back. Lbs and defensive line was awful. I have no idea wtf David gibbs does, but he’s trash at it. Sims lbs have been atrocious. The dline has regressed. We need to see changes to this defensive group if we want to be serious. Oh btw no one is coming to play for Addison Williams so I don’t think we need to worry about losing recruits.

Special teams and tight end play have sucked donkey dick since Blackmon has been here. Where the hell did Pittman go? Wtf happened to boomer? Why the hell was he still trotting out Obarski last year. Wtf happened to McCarthy punting? Dude is the worst position coach we’ve ever had. Rob Sale is getting fired from uf. I’d probably grab him for te coach. Grab the special teams coach from Troy.


If we want to make changes that’s where we start

Now here is a post after my own heart.

I am in agreement with you on most of the defensive staff. UCF needs to hire a P5 staff. Kenny Ingram needs to take an off-the-field position. Ernie Sims needs to go back to Tampa. A-WILL is a running joke. He never deserved to be a position coach, much less a coordinator.

Kenny Martin is probably worthy of keeping. David Gibbs will probably survive this.

What has Grant Heard done to warrant a position on this staff? He signed three transfers, and none of them made any significant impact. Javon Baker got worse under Heard.

Kobi Hudson and Xavier Townsend *may* have improved, but Heard recruited neither.

I am on the fence about Blackmon. The tight end room and kicking and punting room has gotten a lot better under Blackmon. But I don't like seeing players regress.

 

[Shark19]

Have to have a new DC and D-Line coach.....we allowed a 100 yard RB in most games, sometimes several......crazy.

 

[Boston.Knight]

All good on my side, they all get re-up with a bowl win with extra incentive if we beat USF by more than 52

 

[Boston.Knight]

Have to have a new DC and D-Line coach.....we allowed a 100 yard RB in most games, sometimes several......crazy.

Dude there's a couple glaring weak spots and everybody knew it and picked on it we'll get better with recruiting

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Dude there's a couple glaring weak spots and everybody knew it and picked on it we'll get better with recruiting

How long would the NFL put up with the crap on display this past season. The lot would already be fired.

 

[Poolside Knight]

How long would the NFL put up with the crap on display this past season. The lot would already be fired.

Changes should have been made during the bye w how bad the defense was

Look at the league this year..missed opportunity for 2-3 more wins

 

[Poolside Knight]

Would be a great DC Hire

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Would be a great DC Hire

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Tim Allen would be an improvement.

Tom Allen does run a 4-2-5.

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/tom-allen-expects-to-rotate-indiana-defense-heavily-play-the-hot-hand-against-ohio-state

 

[Guinness_Knight]

Looks like Dino Babers fired from Syracuse. That would be a slam dunk hire, no?

 

[LoboCane]

Looks like Dino Babers fired from Syracuse. That would be a slam dunk hire, no?

Are you kidding? Why would UCF hire Dino for? I mean for what position?

 

[Shark19]

Dude there's a couple glaring weak spots and everybody knew it and picked on it we'll get better with recruiting

EVERYBODY HAS GLARING WEAK POINTS, we made NO adjustments for 5 games (even B St ran wild on us so make it 6 games). Those coaches weren't getting it done...sorry your son has to go.

 

[beelit47]

Looks like Dino Babers fired from Syracuse. That would be a slam dunk hire, no?

Thought he was more of an offense coach no?

 

[Knightgatorz]

I want Zac Arnett as DC.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

I want Zac Arnett as DC.

Ot Tom Allen.
Or Gary Patterson.
Or Andy Avalos.
Or DJ Durkin.
Or D'Anton Lynn.
Or Shiel Wood.

 

[U C to the F]

Ot Tom Allen.
Or Gary Patterson.
Or Andy Avalos.
Or DJ Durkin.
Or D'Anton Lynn.
Or Shiel Wood.

Andy Avalos would be a good one and a failed G5 HC so he’s not getting another HC gig anytime soon…but he’s a West Coast guy so idk if the fit is right. Gary Patterson rumored for Houston’s HC gig. I doubt he would come to UCF as a DC. Anyone of these is an upgrade though, so yes to all.

 

[Guinness_Knight]

Thought he was more of an offense coach no?

You’re probably right. I was mixing him up with DJ Durkin for some reason. Getting old 😭😂

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Andy Avalos would be a good one and a failed G5 HC so he’s not getting another HC gig anytime soon…but he’s a West Coast guy so idk if the fit is right. Gary Patterson rumored for Houston’s HC gig. I doubt he would come to UCF as a DC. Anyone of these is an upgrade though, so yes to all.

On second thought, forget ALL those guys.

Hire Jim Leonhard! He is a senior analyst at Illinois. Dude is making $112,500.

Badgers, Illini paying Leonhard

WISCONSIN FOOTBALL

madison.com

https://www.si.com/college/2023/07/25/jim-leonhard-wisconsin-illinois-assistant-hire

He should be coordinating an NFL defense. He turned down uat.

Could former Wisconsin Badgers football coach Jim Leonhard be landing a new NFL job soon?

Former Badgers interim coach and defensive coordinator Jim Leonhard reportedly interviewed for an open job with the Super Bowl runner-up Eagles.

www.jsonline.com

Jim Leonhard: Browns defensive coordinator candidate 2023

Jim Leonhard went 4-3 as the interim coach for Wisconsin but won't return in 2023. Could that open the door for him to become the Cleveland Browns DC?

dawgpounddaily.com

Wisconsin DC Jim Leonhard explains why he turned down Alabama, others

The Crimson Tide wasn't the only SEC team to come calling this offseason.

saturdaytradition.com

 

[SkiDog291]

Addison stole a paycheck this year. He needs to give that salary back to UCF and resign, which is the right thing to do. Please hire a proven DC that has a sense of urgency and knows how actually coach, and make adjustments.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

As we draw closer to Jan 3, I am updating the best available DC candidates...

Gary Patterson
DJ Durkin
Alex Grinch
Zack Arnett
Geoff Collins

 

[major.tom.foolery]

As we draw closer to Jan 3, I am updating the best available DC candidates...

Gary Patterson
DJ Durkin
Alex Grinch
Zack Arnett
Geoff Collins

I hope it's not Alex Grinch, especially if the team ends up in a Christmas day bowl.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

I hope it's not Alex Grinch, especially if the team ends up in a Christmas day bowl.

Grinch is the best portal recruiter of the five: Durkin, the best prep recruiter, highest rated per PFF, and highest paid DC on the list; Collins, a former UCF assistant coach; Patterson, the preeminent coordinator of the 4-2-5; and Arnett, the highly rated by some opinions.

TrojanSports - Our list of 10 defensive coordinator candidates for USC - version 4.0

Our version 4.0 list of 10 candidates USC should be thinking about for defensive coordinator.

usc.rivals.com

Ranking the Top 25 DCs in college football in 2023

Offense is all the rage in college football. These DCs are the best of the best in terms of stopping it.

www.saturdaydownsouth.com

Each one has strengths and weaknesses. Patterson is the only 4-2-5 guy of the bunch. All have no buyouts and are currently unemployed.

Grinch was the highest rated of the five in 2022: https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/s...ive-coordinators-in-college-football-in-2022/

Derek Mason at No. 3 is laughable.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

Like a staph infection, this group of defensive “coaches” is slowly killing us. Yes, I borrowed the term staph to describe the defensive coaches from another board. Sue me. Addison lmao shouldve been fired last year, but somehow got a promotion. Well we have seen how god awful he’s been. His dbs have regressed every single year. He rivals Austin Armstrong for worst dc at a p5 school. He cannot come back. Lbs and defensive line was awful. I have no idea wtf David gibbs does, but he’s trash at it. Sims lbs have been atrocious. The dline has regressed. We need to see changes to this defensive group if we want to be serious. Oh btw no one is coming to play for Addison Williams so I don’t think we need to worry about losing recruits.

Special teams and tight end play have sucked donkey dick since Blackmon has been here. Where the hell did Pittman go? Wtf happened to boomer? Why the hell was he still trotting out Obarski last year. Wtf happened to McCarthy punting? Dude is the worst position coach we’ve ever had. Rob Sale is getting fired from uf. I’d probably grab him for te coach. Grab the special teams coach from Troy.


If we want to make changes that’s where we start

Excellent Questions!

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Zack Arnett has a "duty to mitigate" clause, which means his defensive coordinator salary will be deducted from buyout. Miss State owes him $1.5 million per year through December 2025. So if UCF gives Arnett (Addison Williams' money) $800k, Arnett l be essentially coaching pro bono.

Patterson is a question mark because you don't know how committed he really is and whether he can adapt to the new reality of college football.

Durkin is the most consistent of the five, but he may land a better gig than UCF before spring football.

Grinch is solid but can he adapt to football in the Southeast and to UCF.

Collins and Patterson are the safest and cheapest picks. Not sure how Collins buyout is structured.

 

[lawknight]

Think outside the box go get Ed Reed for your DC.

 

[Retnuhrace]

Zack Arnett has a "duty to mitigate" clause, which means his defensive coordinator salary will be deducted from buyout. Miss State owes him $1.5 million per year through December 2025. So if UCF gives Arnett (Addison Williams' money) $800k, Arnett l be essentially coaching pro bono.

Patterson is a question mark because you don't know how committed he really is and whether he can adapt to the new reality of college football.

Durkin is the most consistent of the five, but he may land a better gig than UCF before spring football.

Grinch is solid but can he adapt to football in the Southeast and to UCF.

Collins and Patterson are the safest and cheapest picks. Not sure how Collins buyout is structured.

Didn’t Grinch just coordinate one of the worst defenses in the country in USC?

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Didn’t Grinch just coordinate one of the worst defenses in the country in USC?

Addison did too. Grinch has coordinated some good ones. Addison has not.

 

[BlakNGoldAllDay]

Think outside the box go get Ed Reed for your DC.

He goes crazy on social media too much. If he could stay off I’d say yes. If Miami isn’t hiring him there has to be a reason.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Pretty impressive for Kam Martin to even be mentioned. Definitely agree with Curtis Looper at No. 2. No sign of Tim Harris Jr. though.

 

[Guinness_Knight]

If we’re upgrading to a new DC or any other coaches…when should we expect it to happen?

If no changes happen with the DC, then our AD and Gus are 100% not committed to winning. It’s that simple.

 

[NestaKnight1]

Replace DC, and ST coach.

 

[U C to the F]

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Pretty impressive for Kam Martin to even be mentioned. Definitely agree with Curtis Looper at No. 2. No sign of Tim Harris Jr. though.

Who takes this Big Game Boomer seriously? What a joke.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

If we’re upgrading to a new DC or any other coaches…when should we expect it to happen?

Transfer portal closes Jan. 3. Will see major movement on coaching staffs across the country after that date. It will be Black Wednesday for college football.

If no changes happen with the DC, then our AD and Gus are 100% not committed to winning. It’s that simple.

Gus Malzahn "said" he hired Darin Hinshaw and Addison Williams because he was tired of the revolving door of coordinators (Kinne, Lindsay; TWill). However, the most humane thing Gus could do is fire Addison.

Replace DC, and ST coach.

DC yes. ST, not so much.

Under Brian Blackmon, UCF has went from Daniel Obarski and Andrew Osteen to Colton Boomer and Mitch Macarthy at K and P, respectively; and from Jake Hescock, Alec Holler, and Zack Marsh Wojan to Randy Pittman, Kylan Fox, and Evan Morris.

UCF has come light years personnel wise.

The Knights regressed statistically in most categories with regard to coaching, though. Perhaps the most logical move is to hire an assistant special teams coordinator.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Who takes this Big Game Boomer seriously? What a joke.

Independent source. No allegiance to UCF. He ranked Looper as No. 2. Looper was just named Football Scoop RB Coach of the Year.

Mizzou's Luper named Football Scoop Running Back Coach of the Year

Missouri running back Curtis Luper is the Football Scoop Running Backs Coach of the Year.

www.kmaland.com

It is a high honor for a first year FBS coach to be ranked among the Top 15 of his peers.

 

[NestaKnight1]

Transfer portal closes Jan. 3. Will see major movement on coaching staffs across the country after that date. It will be Black Wednesday for college football.

Gus Malzahn "said" he hired Darin Hinshaw and Addison Williams because he was tired of the revolving door of coordinators (Kinne, Lindsay; TWill). However, the most humane thing Gus could do is fire Addison.

DC yes. ST, not so much.

Under Brian Blackmon, UCF has went from Daniel Obarski and Andrew Osteen to Colton Boomer and Mitch Macarthy at K and P, respectively; and from Jake Hescock, Alec Holler, and Zack Marsh Wojan to Randy Pittman, Kylan Fox, and Evan Morris.

UCF has come light years personnel wise.

The Knights regressed statistically in most categories with regard to coaching, though. Perhaps the most logical move is to hire an assistant special teams coordinator.

Special teams cost us several ball games with missed chip shot field goals and PATs. Momentum swings caused after long drives with no points are team killers.

 

[Gwoz]

Special teams cost us several ball games with missed chip shot field goals and PATs. Momentum swings caused after long drives with no points are team killers.

Ultimately, every phase of the team led to losses. Games where defense failed, offense failed, and special teams failed. Just not often in the same game except Kansas.

Gus Malzahn really seems to struggle to get the team to play with any sort of consistency, which resembles his Auburn teams.

Hard to pin it on a single aspect of the team or player. One game a unit that normally under performs is an mvp, look at Boise State, Oklahoma st, ect.

The staff should be on the hook for not having the team perform consistently to their ability.

 

[PositYourself]

I think what bothers me the most is the silly game mismanagement this staff had during the season.

I was watching the NC State / KState game (i think) and the announcers mentioned several times how well-coached the two teams were.

In envy, I thought to myself that they could never make that same claim about UCF in good consciousness.

There is NO reason whatsoever that a team led by coaching "veteran" Gus should've blundered away so many points and time that they had.

You're making millions and we're paying you to watch you make several unforgiveable mistakes....not running a play with 8 seconds left in the half vs. GA Tech comes to mind. Or running out the clock to end the first half with no points against TT (?). etc etc

It's f'ing inexcusable.

 

[AuburnLegacy_1]

Special teams cost us several ball games with missed chip shot field goals and PATs. Momentum swings caused after long drives with no points are team killers.

Missed FGs and missed extra points are a tiny part of a special teams coach's job. If you are missing those, you need a new kicker, not new coach.

I can excuse some of those because Boomer had expanded kicking duties.

I am far more concerned about UCF's net punting rank (120), kickoff return defense rank (110), 3 blocked kicks allowed rank (tied for 100), and ZERO blocked kicks or punts.

 

[NestaKnight1]

Missed FGs and missed extra points are a tiny part of a special teams coach's job. If you are missing those, you need a new kicker, not new coach.

I can excuse some of those because Boomer had expanded kicking duties.

I am far more concerned about UCF's net punting rank (120), kickoff return defense rank (110), 3 blocked kicks allowed rank (tied for 100), and ZERO blocked kicks or punts.

All true concerns. I used my examples because they directly lead to points or no points versus indirectly by giving good field position.

 

[Guinness_Knight]

Missed FGs and missed extra points are a tiny part of a special teams coach's job. If you are missing those, you need a new kicker, not new coach.

I can excuse some of those because Boomer had expanded kicking duties.

I am far more concerned about UCF's net punting rank (120), kickoff return defense rank (110), 3 blocked kicks allowed rank (tied for 100), and ZERO blocked kicks or punts.

Q: Whose fault is it when your kicker has gone cold; everyone feels like he’ll miss the FG/xpt; then he misses the kick…and this happens multiple times in key moments?

A: Coaches