Covid deaths pushing toward 5k per day.

[ElprofesorJuan]

Depends what you consider knocking out. I know individuals under 50 hospitalized and one was in ICU on a vent for more than a week. Yeah young people can usually beat it before dying, but it’s not like it’s a walk in the park.

Look up 2007 Findings about Sars Virus in The American Society for MicroBiology. Its a blue print on what should have been done.Its a publication that used over 4000 papers to create a history of Sars. It also mentions Corona virus and where next outbreak may come. This paper was right. It also documents use of Chloroquine. It showed ineffectiveness of use. It shows everything tried against virus. Also documents deaths attributed from heart attacks due to virus..These are not being counted now. This paper shows Patient 0 and what was tried in order to help those infected...It also warned of where next outbreak would probably happen..They also documented the Corona virus in bats..The Sars Virus caused a huge depression..They pretty much said a worse one may come...And here we are..

 

[ElprofesorJuan]

There is an undesirable gray area between dead and no symptoms is all I’m saying. People who measure the impact of the virus on different ages solely in terms of deaths are missing part of the story.

The problem is not all deaths from Corona are being counted as well..Not all deaths are being tested for Corona...So overall Death ratio may be Higher . Also I understand without testing we do not know exact figures for both sides...One thing we do know is this virus kills...We should follow guide lines to remain safe for now..

 

[Ucfmikes]

Will pass Vietnam in a few days. It's like a 9/11 everyday.

Vietnam was like 200,000, correct?

 

[ElprofesorJuan]

In Wuhan Batman himself is viewed as food. So glad China is all about infecting the world eating raw bats.

Yes you are correct ..Also note that the Corona virus came from 2animal species that mutated in a human which then allowed person to person....Bats and civets were blamed for Sars... Corona Virus may be Horseshoe Bats and the Armored Anteater..It's interesting research because the study in 2007 also showed Cats and other animals may carry Sars and not be affected..Which is what they found out about the Corona virus now...Since some tigers have been affected..

 

[firm_bizzle]

We didn't send 90 year olds to Nam either. Probably the death rate would have been higher.

Skyler Herbert was 5 years old.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/year-daug...s-coronavirus-complications/story?id=70256558

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Skyler Herbert was 5 years old.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/year-daug...s-coronavirus-complications/story?id=70256558

We didn’t send 5 year olds either.

 

[Crazyhole]

Skyler Herbert was 5 years old.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/year-daug...s-coronavirus-complications/story?id=70256558

I'm not going to diminish the loss of this girls life, but claiming that she died from covid when she also had meningitis is a bit presumptuous. If there is a causality there, fine. But that would be the first time we've heard of it. Meningitis is scary crap on its own, so tying it to covid at this point seems like fear-mongering.

 

[Ucfmikes]

I'm not going to diminish the loss of this girls life, but claiming that she died from covid when she also had meningitis is a bit presumptuous. If there is a causality there, fine. But that would be the first time we've heard of it. Meningitis is scary crap on its own, so tying it to covid at this point seems like fear-mongering.

Yes, but what about the other 40,000 5 year-olds?

 

[Crazyhole]

Yes, but what about the other 40,000 5 year-olds?

Nobody cares about them. Just like the 100s of thousands of elderly that die but didn't have covid-19.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Nobody cares about them. Just like the 100s of thousands of elderly that die but didn't have covid-19.

I’m trying to say. We didn’t send 5 year-olds to Vietnam was the example that was given comparing Covid-19 deaths to Vietnam. Very few 5 year-olds have died

 

[firm_bizzle]

I'm not going to diminish the loss of this girls life, but claiming that she died from covid when she also had meningitis is a bit presumptuous. If there is a causality there, fine. But that would be the first time we've heard of it. Meningitis is scary crap on its own, so tying it to covid at this point seems like fear-mongering.

Meningitis from COVID, one of the symptoms is a loss of taste and smell. So don't think that other senses and nerves are excluded.

Crazyhole, there are people that are dying out here that have never died before.

 

[DaShuckster]

I'm not going to diminish the loss of this girls life, but claiming that she died from covid when she also had meningitis is a bit presumptuous. If there is a causality there, fine. But that would be the first time we've heard of it. Meningitis is scary crap on its own, so tying it to covid at this point seems like fear-mongering.

It's crystal clear what you've been attempting to do: Imply that coronavirus deaths are being overblown in order to fear-monger.

Let's review the facts:

1. It was originally thought the young girl had strep throat but they discovered she had COVID-19.
2. Her condition wasn't improving and the doctors put her on a ventilator.
3. While in the hospital and on the ventilator, she developed a rare form of meningitis and died.

What the f*k is presumptuous of saying she died of COVID-19 complications?

 

[Crazyhole]

It's crystal clear what you've been attempting to do: Imply that coronavirus deaths are being overblown in order to fear-monger.

Let's review the facts:

1. It was originally thought the young girl had strep throat but they discovered she had COVID-19.
2. Her condition wasn't improving and the doctors put her on a ventilator.
3. While in the hospital and on the ventilator, she developed a rare form of meningitis and died.

What the f*k is presumptuous of saying she died of COVID-19 complications?

Whats presumptuous is that there is some form of causality. If covid-19 directly contributed to her getting meningitis its the first time we've heard of that. Meningitis is like the scariest thing for someone to get outside of pancreatic cancer. If covid-19 led to her getting it, yeah, we should all frigging panic.

 

[fried-chicken]

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...plan-to-fight-nursing-home-outbreaks/2386556/

Interesting antibody test results NYC

 

[fried-chicken]

Very likely. A lot aren't getting tested unless it gets really bad so you know the infection rate is way higher. Good sign it won't spread much in NYC soon.

If NYC has 20% antibodies and people social distance and wear masks they'll be done with this in a month or so.

 

[NinjaKnight]

I see Elizabeth Warrens older brother died from it.
Seems to hit minorities pretty hard.

@UCFKnight85 this is an actual example of an inbred piece of shit celebrating people dying, yet you are strangely silent on it

Oh, because it aligns with your political views. Hypocritical piece of shit.

 

[goodknightfl]

I know you didn't think of this yourself because this is much funnier than you are.

Sorry fried, it was all me..

We are going to have 100,000,000 5 year olds fall victim to the Wuhan Flu in the United States alone. Fredo on CNN told me.

The US has just under 350 million people, did not know 100 million were 5 years old. the good thing is 99,999,990 of them will survive it.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

If it is 10x then Florida is around 300,000 infections. Still have a way to go.

Almost sounds like let it spread to the healthiest. Get herd immunity. Donate plasma to help with others.

Hoping this is coming closer to an end.

Herd immunity is when around 50-60% are immune. So 2.5-3x the number who have already been infected in NYC. And likely 2.5-3x the end results. That’s 50-60k deaths in just New York. It’s what we are trying to avoid nationwide, but NY is so densely populated it spread there quicker than in any other westernized city.

 

[fried-chicken]

Herd immunity is when around 50-60% are immune. So 2.5-3x the number who have already been infected in NYC. And likely 2.5-3x the end results. That’s 50-60k deaths in just New York. It’s what we are trying to avoid nationwide, but NY is so densely populated it spread there quicker than in any other westernized city.

I think herd immunity can be at a lower percentage.

If the natural R-value is 2.0 and 50% are immune we should see growth go flat with an R of 1.

If we all wear masks that stop 30% of the spread then the r value is 1.4. So a 30% immunity would get us flat.

If we have social distancing and masks then it's possible that a 20% immunity would get us flat.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

I think herd immunity can be at a lower percentage.

If the natural R-value is 2.0 and 50% are immune we should see growth go flat with an R of 1.

If we all wear masks that stop 30% of the spread then the r value is 1.4. So a 30% immunity would get us flat.

If we have social distancing and masks then it's possible that a 20% immunity would get us flat.

Yes if we continue social distancing and wearing masks and otherwise taking approaches to lower transmission of the virus until a vaccine is widely available then we could stay flat, but that’s not really herd immunity. As soon as we relax it will come back. I also thing R0 is significantly higher than 2 in a city like NYC.

 

[Crazyhole]

I think herd immunity can be at a lower percentage.

If the natural R-value is 2.0 and 50% are immune we should see growth go flat with an R of 1.

If we all wear masks that stop 30% of the spread then the r value is 1.4. So a 30% immunity would get us flat.

If we have social distancing and masks then it's possible that a 20% immunity would get us flat.

Chud logic:

We will achieve herd immunity by keeping people from getting the virus.

 

[fried-chicken]

Chud logic:

We will achieve herd immunity by keeping people from getting the virus.

Was never the plan. Herd immunity is what you get when you have New York level deaths.

The plan is to keep R near 1.0 with non chemical methods of mitigation until we can get a vaccine. Letting it burn through America will lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Wearing masks is mildy inconvenient but it drops our R value enough that we can go out. Countries that had a universal masking culture are doing fine with this.

 

[fried-chicken]

Yes if we continue social distancing and wearing masks and otherwise taking approaches to lower transmission of the virus until a vaccine is widely available then we could stay flat, but that’s not really herd immunity. As soon as we relax it will come back. I also thing R0 is significantly higher than 2 in a city like NYC.

The number of infected sure seem to show that. R2.0 was probably the assumption before we realized that 1/5 in the city had this.

 

[_glaciers]

Umm no?

https://www.asirt.org/safe-travel/road-safety-facts/

Dumbass

 

[hemightbejeremy]

https://www.asirt.org/safe-travel/road-safety-facts/

Dumbass

The link you posted says 3700 globally. In the context of US coronavirus deaths why would you say 4000 people are dying daily from auto accidents? Even if you meant globally which makes little sense given the context, you have to admit that the number is in fact lower than 4000.

 

[DaShuckster]

Dumbass

Jesus, you guys are getting your asses handed to you by FC and jeremy today.

Clearly you folks have nothing to add besides insults so I suggest you retreat, find a golden oldie Rightwing thread, and bump that baby!

Who knows? Maybe they'll forget this.

 

[_glaciers]

The link you posted says 3700 globally. In the context of US coronavirus deaths why would you say 4000 people are dying daily from auto accidents? Even if you meant globally which makes little sense given the context, you have to admit that the number is in fact lower than 4000.

Is Coronavirus not a global pandemic? Thanks for clearing that up.

PS. 3700 is 92% of 4000, you dumb bitch.

 

[_glaciers]

Jesus, you guys are getting your asses handed to you by FC and jeremy today.

Clearly you folks have nothing to add besides insults so I suggest you retreat, find a golden oldie Rightwing thread, and bump that baby!

Who knows? Maybe they'll forget this.

always nice to hear from the resident Pedophile supporter. Grope any kids yourself lately?

 

[DaShuckster]

always nice to hear from the resident Pedophile supporter. Grope any kids yourself lately?

What an amazing display of wit!!!! Clearly, you and your fellow Red Hats are primed and ready early for the general campaign this fall.

#winning, right?

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Is Coronavirus not a global pandemic? Thanks for clearing that up.

PS. 3700 is 92% of 4000, you dumb bitch.

What measures would you like to implement in the USA that will reduce global auto fatalities bitch? This ought to be good.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Ban cars? Stay at home? But I'll let him respond

A global car ban may be tough to implement in the US.

 

[KNIGHTTIME^]

So if the infections are 1,000% more based on the findings, then ny state just added another 80,000 to the herd immunity count today alone.

 

[DaShuckster]

So if the infections are 1,000% more based on the findings, then ny state just added another 80,000 to the herd immunity count today alone.

I keep getting herd immunity and herd mentality mixed up.

 

[Crazyhole]

So we are destroying the entire economy for a less than 1% death rate. Makes sense...hope we shut down every flu season.

This whole thing just shows how easily people succumb to fear and will turn their rights over.

 

[DaShuckster]

This whole thing just shows how easily people succumb to fear and will turn their rights over.

Oooookay. Yep, that's one way to look at it.

Another way is to marvel that a country as huge, and diverse, and as divided as ours currently is, was able to follow the advice of medical experts and drop our anticipated death toll from this virus from estimates of 100,000 to 250,000 deaths down to under 60,000.

 

[Crazyhole]

Oooookay. Yep, that's one way to look at it.

Another way is to marvel that a country as huge, and diverse, and as divided as ours currently is, was able to follow the advice of medical experts and drop our anticipated death toll from this virus from estimates of 100,000 to 250,000 deaths down to under 60,000.

Even though it's obvious that those early projections were totally bunk and that social distancing makes zero difference? Instead we have neighbors calling the cops on each other for having too many people in their backyard.

 

[DaShuckster]

Even though it's obvious that those early projections were totally bunk and that social distancing makes zero difference?

So the new conventional "right" wisdom is that social distancing makes zero difference in combating a deadly contagious virus?

 

[Crazyhole]

So the new conventional "right" wisdom is that social distancing makes zero difference in combating a deadly contagious virus?

It always was conventional wisdom. We were peddled lies that just stoked up fear.

 

[DaShuckster]

It always was conventional wisdom. We were peddled lies that just stoked up fear.

It truly amazes -- and quite frankly, scares -- me how far down the anti-science road so many of today's conservatives have gone.

 

[DaShuckster]

Wrong...the social distancing might be doing very little and frankly making things worse.

Good point, DR. KNIGHTTIME.

Certainly nothing that we've seen with this worldwide pandemic should have led us to believe that social distancing and staying-at-home has slowed down this contagious virus in any way, shape, and form.*