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Covid deaths pushing toward 5k per day.

Is Covid-19 worse than the flu?


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So as I said, Tuesdays are normally the big jump days because of reporting inconsistencies. The last 3 Tuesdays have seen increases of 58% 57% 61% over Monday's totals. If this were to hold true today we would see 2300. If we are really past the peak then 2000 would be a big win even though it's 400 more than yesterday.
 
So as I said, Tuesdays are normally the big jump days because of reporting inconsistencies. The last 3 Tuesdays have seen increases of 58% 57% 61% over Monday's totals. If this were to hold true today we would see 2300. If we are really past the peak then 2000 would be a big win even though it's 400 more than yesterday.
Not looking great
 
2405 deaths, a 58% increase day over day just like the last 4 Tuesdays. It may be nearing the peak but it hasn't slowed yet. A bad sign that NY is stabilizing and were making up their death growth in other states. It was just another day for most Americans with the president talking about reopening the economy but we lost comparably as many Americans as many of our bloodiest battles in history and our biggest tragedies. Yesterday won't go in the record books like dday and pearl harbor and 9/11. It'll be just another Tuesday. Tomorrow we'll have a fresh batch of thousands dead and people will be more concerned about where they can buy their furniture.

60k dead seems like an impossible goal now.
 
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Florida new cases dropped 45% since yesterday. Death count is high but getting overstated with some cases not even COVID-19 confirmed. That is a fact.

Time to open this piece up for the young and healthy. Death rate under 50 is like .004%.
Just checking if you realize we had 2400 Americans die yesterday after social distancing for weeks. If we are taking extreme measures and still adding 30k cases each day, how do you think this looks if we stop trying to contain it. We're barely keeping it fought back as it is now.

Trump forcing the economy open will kill tens of thousands.
 
New cases decline for the 5th day in a row. Under 30,000 again. That’s encouraging. Death number doesn’t reflect anything other than it’s very unfortunate
 
New cases decline for the 5th day in a row. Under 30,000 again. That’s encouraging. Death number doesn’t reflect anything other than it’s very unfortunate
It reflects the number of people who have died. It's the most accurate representation of the crisis since they won't test people and the daily testing hasn't increased in weeks.
 
It reflects the number of people who have died. It's the most accurate representation of the crisis since they won't test people and the daily testing hasn't increased in weeks.
The people who have died is just that. People are still dying that have had it in addition to the peak in new cases

The decrease in new cases tells us about social distancing working. It’s certainly better than more new cases.
 
Y'all are still trying to use logic and reason with these inbreds.

They. Don't. Care. About. Facts.

You are wasting your time. Just let them die of covid and we can elect someone who isn't a total embarrassment to the human race
 
Another day of the OP cheerleading more deaths among US citizens
The press briefing was on opening the economy before it's ready. I'll continue to bring attention to our death toll until people start to realize that Trump is going to cost 10s of thousands of lives with his antics.
 
Death totals will always lag by a week or more. If the peak of people getting sick, was 3 to 5 days ago, it takes a week or more for those people to get really bad. Death rates today relate to those who starting getting sick a week or more ago.

He is talking about starting to open things up in 2 weeks. There are large parts of the country with few cases. You can still keep social distancing, and open up many things that are now closed down.
 
Death totals will always lag by a week or more. If the peak of people getting sick, was 3 to 5 days ago, it takes a week or more for those people to get really bad. Death rates today relate to those who starting getting sick a week or more ago.

He is talking about starting to open things up in 2 weeks. There are large parts of the country with few cases. You can still keep social distancing, and open up many things that are now closed down.
Testing was down over 30% in the last week. Of course you'll see new confirmed cases drop but you can't rely on those numbers because we aren't testing as many people. We have many "presumed positive" cases diagnosed but unconfirmed. You guys probably already know presumed positive cases. For me it's my aunt and a good friend.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/14/coronavirus-testing-delays-186883
 
Who knows how many deaths reported are not even related to COVID-19. We are testing more than other countries so our infected rate is going to show higher. Some getting infected that are healthy have mild cases.

Open this place up May 1st!
It’s the other way around. NYC saw a 13k increase in deaths in the last month and attributed 10k and change to CV. It’s underreported due to those dying in their home not being counted.
 
Chud Logic:

We saw how fast 1 active case went to 10k cases under normal circumstances.

Let's now see how fast 500k active cases becomes millions and millions by going back to normal circumstances because @KNIGHTTIME^ needs a new Ikea sofa.
 
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Chud Logic:

We saw how fast 1 active case went to 10k cases under normal circumstances.

Let's now see how fast 500k active cases becomes millions and millions by going back to normal circumstances because @KNIGHTTIME^ needs a new Ikea sofa.


Is he the same dumbass who said this would all blow over in my original corona thread?

He's an utter dipshit, probably needs help to tie his own shoelaces.
 
LOL...ok I laughed at the Ikea sofa.

Best Buy just furloughed like 50,000 employees as today's example. What will be the stats of depression, heart issues, suicide, loss of income, and long term damage over the economy? This shutdown with a virus which has low probability of killing under 50 year olds in good health. Keep distancing and reopen on May 1st. The Wuhan flu is likely going to be around forever without a vaccine. Even the flu with a vaccine comes back
Who knew Best Buy was still around. I remember shopping there a decade ago for blu rays.
 
I was going by WHO propaganda. Forgive me! Let's also toss around claims on this board that over 10 million would die in the United States over the Wuhan flu. A lot of incorrect statements made which is why the finger pointing needs to be at China for it even getting spread to other regions.

We still don't even know how many deaths are covid 19 related. There is a financial gain to reporting deaths as covid cases. Maybe that is only 2% or 25%. Who knows
You were posting in a thread started by a dude with no knowledge other than wildly available reporting. If you were choosing to believe the WHO (Given your track record it was almost assuredly Trump that was misleading you. You cant expect us to believe that you actually follow the WHO.) then it was your dumb mistake and the millions out there who are as dumb as you made the spread worse. Those same dumb idiots are parroting Trump again that we must open the economy on May 1st. Guess who's right there with them being wrong again? Your dumb ass.
 
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You were posting in a thread started by a dude with no knowledge other than wildly available reporting. If you were choosing to believe the WHO (Given your track record it was almost assuredly Trump that was misleading you. You cant expect us to believe that you actually follow the WHO.) then it was your dumb mistake and the millions out there who are as dumb as you made the spread worse. Those same dumb idiots are parroting Trump again that we must open the economy on May 1st. Guess who's right there with them being wrong again? Your dumb ass.

Lmao completely and utterly destroyed

These inbreds are completely incapable of thinking for themselves. They parrot Trump to a T.
 
I'm not parroting crap. Democratic governors are even trying to organize a time table to reopen and those are the worst regions. New York and New Jersey are the two main areas for the Wuhan flu. You can't keep the economy closed for 12 months over scared betas. Take your precautions and get out in a distancing fashion. Assuming you're healthy you will be fine.
Yes, only scared betas are afraid of a highly contagious disease that even when reasonably contained as it is now is killing more than 1.5× as many people as die every day from cancer. Not just one type of cancer, but every cancer combined.

This is happening while we have it reasonably under control. Imagine how deadly this little "flu" will be when we dont.

Only a beta would worry about that. Go out and buy shoes. Sorry grandma, knighttime needs a couch.
 
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Quit being a prick. These are 50,000 people without a job. Disney, Universal, Michelin, etc are all doing furloughs. It's real life to many. I'm lucky but not everyone is so lucky. We will kick up to 30% unemployment. Some of the restaurants will never come back as an example. Some retail will never come back.
I’m honestly just surprised Best Buy still exists given Amazon now does same day delivery and has reviews of all products. The only purpose Best Buy served was to have in person sales associates to assist elderly who don’t use computers with telling the difference between 1080p and 4K. I’m pretty sure with or without forced closures, 90% of their market has dried up. I used to frequent Best Buy for CDs and DVDs. Now all that shit is in the cloud. I honestly couldn’t even tell you what they sell at this point.
 
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I’m honestly just surprised Best Buy still exists given Amazon now does same day delivery and has reviews of all products. The only purpose Best Buy served was to have in person sales associates to assist elderly who don’t use computers with telling the difference between 1080p and 4K. I’m pretty sure with or without forced closures, 90% of their market has dried up. I used to frequent Best Buy for CDs and DVDs. Now all that shit is in the cloud. I honestly couldn’t even tell you what they sell at this point.

Best Buy is nothing much more than how Full Sail subsidizes their shitty, expensive education...
 
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Another 2400 day death total. I can't decide what's more scary, that we've lost 30k Americans in a month or that we lost 15k in the last week.

If our new normal is 15k per week we'll be at about 100k dead in a month even with our current level of containment.
 
Another 2400 day death total. I can't decide what's more scary, that we've lost 30k Americans in a month or that we lost 15k in the last week.

If our new normal is 15k per week we'll be at about 100k dead in a month even with our current level of containment.
Just in time to “open er up”
 
Not discounting the loss of lives but it would be nice if we had real confirmation how many are proven Wuhan flu cases. There is a financial gain by claiming deaths are covid related. I don't doubt a lot are legit but I'd like an idea how much fudging is happening.
Normally ~5k people die in a month in NYC. Last month was ~18k and they claimed ~11k were Covid19. Should give you a bit of an idea.
 
Its just ridiculous. That suggests that covid-19 is 2 and a half times more deadly than EVERY OTHER CAUSE OF DEATH COMBINED.
I just did the math
Death rate in America is .008
Population of NYC is 9M
72,000 deaths per year
6,000 per month

10,899 deaths in NYC from coronavirus so far.

If this is shocking to you then welcome to reality. It's a big ****ing problem.

We expect 200 deaths in NYC each day under normal circumstances. 2.5x every other death total combined would be 500 Covid deaths a day. We're getting over 700 in the state and the city is the bulk of that.
 
I just did the math
Death rate in America is .008
Population of NYC is 9M
72,000 deaths per year
6,000 per month

10,899 deaths in NYC from coronavirus so far.

If this is shocking to you then welcome to reality. It's a big ****ing problem.

We expect 200 deaths in NYC each day under normal circumstances. 2.5x every other death total combined would be 500 Covid deaths a day. We're getting over 700 in the state and the city is the bulk of that.
I just posted The NY Times article with the CDC chart of deaths over time in NYC by month. It rarely ever goes above 5k. For the 33 day period March 11-April 13 the city reported 18k total deaths. You can see in the previous link I provided. Now either you think the people didn’t really die or actually they are undercounting a bit.
 
I just posted The NY Times article with the CDC chart of deaths over time in NYC by month. It rarely ever goes above 5k. For the 33 day period March 11-April 13 the city reported 18k total deaths. You can see in the previous link I provided. Now either you think the people didn’t really die or actually they are undercounting a bit.
And @Crazyhole went into a mini rant about how those numbers were too awful to be real, when he was presented with the stats...
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I’m honestly just surprised Best Buy still exists given Amazon now does same day delivery and has reviews of all products. The only purpose Best Buy served was to have in person sales associates to assist elderly who don’t use computers with telling the difference between 1080p and 4K. I’m pretty sure with or without forced closures, 90% of their market has dried up. I used to frequent Best Buy for CDs and DVDs. Now all that shit is in the cloud. I honestly couldn’t even tell you what they sell at this point.

I actually went in one recently.. for old time sake. It was so nostalgic. I don't remember them having so many appliances? I guess probably bc whenever I used to frequent I only cared about the CDs, TVs and video games.
 
You sound excited about people losing their jobs
You're imagining my tone. I'm being factual. No one is stepping foot in a best buy with an active virus and Amazon as an option.

It was a struggling sector and this will finish it off. Retail is dead.
 
Ok so the economy opens at some point in May. What happens when people, including some people with at risk family, still are hesitant to go out and "participate"?

Are people going to flood shopping malls that were already dying? We know sporting events and large entertainment venues in general simply cannot go back to how they used to be for the foreseeable future. Theme parks?

Who's going to be itching for international travel and extravagant vacations?

I'm really curious about traditional office employment jobs. What changes there from what's currently in place? They're the least impacted (unless directly tied to travel or retail).

What happens when the company that CAN effectively continue to WFH has a boomer CEO with control issues and wants his employees back in packed offices... What happens when those employees are hesitant?

I think it'll be the duty of these companies to keep majority WFH policies in place long in to the future. To make up for the re-opening of other industries that will require people leaving their homes.

The elasticity point FC is making is a good one and should be thought ab critically. People have to participate. Are the majority scared and cautious? Are the majority not worried personally?

Man I am so very interested to see some of these regional proposals!
 
Ok so the economy opens at some point in May. What happens when people, including some people with at risk family, still are hesitant to go out and "participate"?

Are people going to flood shopping malls that were already dying? We know sporting events and large entertainment venues in general simply cannot go back to how they used to be for the foreseeable future. Theme parks?

Who's going to be itching for international travel and extravagant vacations?

I'm really curious about traditional office employment jobs. What changes there from what's currently in place? They're the least impacted (unless directly tied to travel or retail).

What happens when the company that CAN effectively continue to WFH has a boomer CEO with control issues and wants his employees back in packed offices... What happens when those employees are hesitant?

I think it'll be the duty of these companies to keep majority WFH policies in place long in to the future. To make up for the re-opening of other industries that will require people leaving their homes.

The elasticity point FC is making is a good one and should be thought ab critically. People have to participate. Are the majority scared and cautious? Are the majority not worried personally?

Man I am so very interested to see some of these regional proposals!
Consumers control the reopen. People aren't going to put their lives at risk for a hamburger so even if you assume 100% of people under 40 will go back to life as normal, old people will not. That reduced demand is enough to crater weak businesses. The consumers reopen the economy, not the president or governors.

There is no economic recovery with consumers lowered demand and the only way to raise that demand anywhere near previrus levels is with a vaccine or testing so wide spread that every American can test every 2 weeks.

All opening up businesses does is put a little pocket change in business owners hands (not enough to pay their bills) and convert healthy people into carriers.
 
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