Covid deaths pushing toward 5k per day.

[goodknightfl]

Thing are going to be a new normal for quite a while. The economy has to reopen, but the damage has been done. A lot of people still wont go out like they did, and may businesses that are open will have smaller capacities than they had and still will have to close their doors. We are going to be hurting for a long time because of this. We reduced deaths and hospitalizations now, but have set it up for it to be worse later. The only long term fix for this is Herd immunity. A vaccine helps but getting 25 to 50% of the population having had it is the only real answer.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

If it gets bad people will just start wearing n95 masks and gloves to go out. The capital market if given time can handle supply. Everything sorts itself out in time.

Yes. Grandparents everywhere will be venturing out to Best Buy donning N95 masks and gloves in order to purchase a $50 HDMI cable.

 

[fried-chicken]

Mass testing is the stopgap we need. If every American had a test and those who were positive stayed home and we did that every Sunday we'd have this under control in 3 weeks even without herd immunity

South Korea has a 2% positive test rate. They tested immediately and often. They still do because they need to catch 9/10 cases to break even on spread.

We have a 25% positive rate and we don't even test most people with symptoms.

 

[fried-chicken]

Trump can't deliver more than 200k tests per day for the whole country so I guess we're to the point when the admin just says **** it and we do it without the info we need.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

How I imagine a post-Corona world:

 

[Cubs79]

I don't know about that. Publix here is slammed packed. What is the difference sitting in a restaurant vs a packed out supermarket? Or shopping for furniture or a tv? Businesses are going to shut forever if we don't open in May. At least they have a fighting chance if they reopen.

We can open and continue to do distancing. States like New York and New Jersey might need to stay closed for a bit longer. Work on hygiene with the hippies and teach them about washing hands.

A grocery store is a necessity because people have to eat. Sitting in a restaurant is not a necessity. In saying that, many restaurants are open in some capacity, delivery or carryout, so all restaurants arent completely shut down.

 

[Cubs79]

If it gets bad people will just start wearing n95 masks and gloves to go out. The capital market if given time can handle supply. Everything sorts itself out in time.

Gloves dont do anything. You can still get the virus on your glove and touch your face, touch someone else, or touch something that someone else will also touch. The virus doesnt immediately die because it is touched by a glove.

 

[fried-chicken]

We already are testing more than almost every country. You would need to test everyone like twice a week which isn't practical today. The current test is invasive so not many are going to take the test without symptoms. You want the government to force tests?

Typically no, in this case, our alternative is 200k dead by Christmas.

 

[fried-chicken]

You can't force invasive tests especially if you have to do it often. What will save everything is a saliva based immediate test that can be purchased fairly cheap. Then Disney and sporting events can open.

So why is Trump spending the equivalent of $15,000 per American citizen on handouts and not spending those same trillions funding this test that we need to return to normal. This should be a national effort, it's the only thing that gets things back to normal that can be available in a reasonable timeframe.

 

[fried-chicken]

Maybe in process. I heard about a saliva test, but still in research. Not sure it's immediate which is critical. The president really can't comment on future items or the msm and governors will block it.

The money. I'm talking about the money.

This test is the only fix. We should be funding companies research and production instead of giving away trillions to many who don't need it yet.

 

[Crazyhole]

Is this a typo or did I miss something?. The website I follow on covid-19 deaths showed a 6,000 person jump today.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Is this a typo or did I miss something?. The website I follow on covid-19 deaths showed a 6,000 person jump today.

They were backdated. Shouldn’t have appeared for just today. NYC had around 3700 that hadn’t been previously reported since there was no lab confirmation of the virus despite Covid19 listed on the death certificate.

 

[fried-chicken]

Yesterday's numbers amended to 2783.

 

[Crazyhole]

Yesterday's numbers amended to 2783.

Thats no bueno.

 

[fried-chicken]

Thats no bueno.

Today will be better.

That might have been the peak.

 

[Crazyhole]

Today will be better.

That might have been the peak.

Hope so. Thats a pretty big jump.

 

[fried-chicken]

New York is claiming a 9% death rate with the Wuhan flu. Adding deaths without confirmation and a lot of fudging. Huge mistake to have financial gains to notate a death as covid.

You dumb ****. These people are dying of SOMETHING right?

Well, NYC normally has 200-300 deaths per day from all causes combined. This isn't a debatable issue.

Next issue. 600 people per day are dying that test positive for C19. This isn't also isnt a debatable issue.

For your stance to make any sense you would ha e to believe that NY is just making up dead bodies. Or that coincidently the death rate from other diseases trippled and NY saw an opportunity to get funding and jumped on it by lying and saying all those people dying of car accidents had C19.

You're an idiot brother.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

New York is claiming a 9% death rate with the Wuhan flu. Adding deaths without confirmation and a lot of fudging. Huge mistake to have financial gains to notate a death as covid.

They have undercounted by probably 2-3k

 

[fried-chicken]

Meaning just fudging another 3k to get additional funds.

What a dumb shit. What did the 600 positive c19 tested people die of yesterday?

 

[UCFKnight85]

A new day, another day of the OP cheerleading death by gleefully changing headline

 

[fried-chicken]

There are deaths...some of the deaths are getting classified as covid for $$$. Gooble that fake msm news.

Why are New York's deaths from all causes more than 3x higher than normal at this time?

 

[fried-chicken]

Honestly whatever you want to think is fine, you're an idiot. The math is clear but you've made your mind up.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Only an idiot seeking attention keeps changing the title of his thread and spells Coronavirus wrong

 

[Crazyhole]

New York is claiming a 9% death rate with the Wuhan flu. Adding deaths without confirmation and a lot of fudging. Huge mistake to have financial gains to notate a death as covid.

That would be the highest rate in the world I believe. Doesnt seem quite right.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

I’m not sure I understand your conspiracy theory guys. NYC said 18k people died in a month and per CDC they have only had 6k or more happen once In September 2001. The norm is 4-5k for this month. So they literally had 13-14k above the norm. Of those 18k nearly 7k were confirmed positive and 3700 probable. An additional 8k+ died that were not even reported as Covid deaths. When the norm is 5k. Do you think NYC is pulling numbers from thin air and 18k didn’t die?

 

[fried-chicken]

That would be the highest rate in the world I believe. Doesnt seem quite right.

Maybe more people have the virus than we know about? You know. Because they can't get tested.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

I’m not sure I understand your conspiracy theory guys. NYC said 18k people died in a month and per CDC they have only had 6k or more happen once In September 2001. The norm is 4-5k for this month. So they literally had 13-14k above the norm. Of those 18k nearly 7k were confirmed positive and 3700 probable. An additional 8k+ died that were not even reported as Covid deaths. When the norm is 5k. Do you think NYC is pulling numbers from thin air and 18k didn’t die?

 

[NinjaKnight]

These people you all are arguing with are literally retarded. They have actual mental disabilities. You can't convince them to understand anything, they aren't capable of it.

It's the same group of inbred morons who posted in my original thread saying this would blow over. They are just wrong every time they post.

 

[fried-chicken]

Man dies in NYC of Covid after getting fatally hit by a car. -breaking news- cnn

Car accident deaths increase by 100000% as no one is driving and all car accident victims also test positive for Covid and weren't hit by car. -breaking news on OAN-

 

[hemightbejeremy]

I’m not sure I understand your conspiracy theory guys. NYC said 18k people died in a month and per CDC they have only had 6k or more happen once In September 2001. The norm is 4-5k for this month. So they literally had 13-14k above the norm. Of those 18k nearly 7k were confirmed positive and 3700 probable. An additional 8k+ died that were not even reported as Covid deaths. When the norm is 5k. Do you think NYC is pulling numbers from thin air and 18k didn’t die?

 

[Ucfmikes]

We are dealing with idiots who don’t even know how to respond to a post properly. That’s the low IQ left wing radicals

 

[Crazyhole]

2175 is a pretty encouraging number. Thats a big drop from the prior day. HCQ must be working.

Stick with what we are doing for a couple more weeks and we might have this thing beat until next winter.

 

[fried-chicken]

Skydiving and car accidents are way up.

 

[Crazyhole]

If we can limit the number of days with over 1,000 deaths to 30 that's pretty impressive. Our country is likely the hardest one to quickly address something like this, so I'd say we can all be pretty impressed with our collective response.

 

[fried-chicken]

2175 is a pretty encouraging number. Thats a big drop from the prior day. HCQ must be working.

Stick with what we are doing for a couple more weeks and we might have this thing beat until next winter.

One day up and down doesn't make a trend with all the reporting inconsistencies. I'd like to see us level off at around 1200 per day.

Italy has been past it's peak of 900 for a couple of weeks and they are still getting 500-600. If we are similar and we really did just hit the peak, we can expect a steady 1400 per day for several weeks. Can't extrapolate past that since no one has made it that far yet.

Italy and Spain had sharp increases and have had shallow declines. I think it's likely that we do it even worse than those countries as we're likely to have rolling peaks with parts of the country reopening.

 

[Crazyhole]

One day up and down doesn't make a trend with all the reporting inconsistencies. I'd like to see us level off at around 1200 per day.

Italy has been past it's peak of 900 for a couple of weeks and they are still getting 500-600. If we are similar and we really did just hit the peak, we can expect a steady 1400 per day for several weeks. Can't extrapolate past that since no one has made it that far yet.

Agreed, but thats a pretty significant drop off in the middle of the week. I think we both agreed that if we could get down to 2000 in a day this week that would be a very good sign. Hopefully today's numbers bears that out

 

[fried-chicken]

Agreed, but thats a pretty significant drop off in the middle of the week. I think we both agreed that if we could get down to 2000 in a day this week that would be a very good sign. Hopefully today's numbers bears that out

2000 a day increase from Monday's 1500 is what I was hoping for. We got 2400 and then 2700. I think if we can go 4 or 5 days under 2k we'll be on the right track.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

One day up and down doesn't make a trend with all the reporting inconsistencies. I'd like to see us level off at around 1200 per day.

Italy has been past it's peak of 900 for a couple of weeks and they are still getting 500-600. If we are similar and we really did just hit the peak, we can expect a steady 1400 per day for several weeks. Can't extrapolate past that since no one has made it that far yet.

Italy and Spain had sharp increases and have had shallow declines. I think it's likely that we do it even worse than those countries as we're likely to have rolling peaks with parts of the country reopening.

Italy had a peak of 919. 21 days ago. They have had one day since with under 500. Easter Sunday.

 

[Crazyhole]

Italy had a peak of 919. 21 days ago. They have had one day since with under 500. Easter Sunday.

Italy is kind of an outlier due to their demographics. NYC is probably an outlier as well due to population density. It's hard to use those 2 instances as a prediction of what's to come, particularly as we enter the warmer months.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Italy is kind of an outlier due to their demographics. NYC is probably an outlier as well due to population density. It's hard to use those 2 instances as a prediction of what's to come, particularly as we enter the warmer months.

Yeah I mean it’s not a perfect comparison, but they were earliest to peak which is why I mentioned them.