Thats like thinking the s&p 500 companies are all going to blow up allowing Matt Grothe’s Polar Cup business the opportunity to thrive in its place
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You look through black and gold colored glasses. People out west do not see UCF the same way we do. Ask yourself, if the PAC teams were available last year would it have been better for the B12 to take Oregon State because they were a P5 or UCF? As for Boise they have done well. What is their upside? Where do they go from here? Do they add a big potential viewership?
UCF is more than bowl wins. There is a much bigger factor in play. School size and location probably most of all.
The Big 12 would have taken PAC 12 schools over the G5 adds had they been available. It’s not even a question really.
Would it have been the best long term move? Oregon State/ Washington State or UCF/Cinci? Which would be the better long term move.
Until we show we can do everything it takes to succeed at that level, the P5s have the advantage.....and I was shocked how good Wash St viewership is.
It takes more than being a fake #2 for 5 days......
CMon, bring us more usf content, I want to be in a good mood going into the weekend.
Just an idea, long term is meaningless if the short term or medium short term is 2 superconferences and a 3rd. Adding SDSU, UCF, Cincy, Houston, Memphis, or any G5, gets your conference ignored. I agree with the idea that a better long term would be those, just look at what Memphis has done in football over the decade(s). They've went from usf bad to one of the best in the conference. The lot above, are probably better than the doormat Pac or Big XII teams year in year out. But the stigma of filling your conference with G5s over 'names' from the PAC 1. keeps the PAC alive and a competitor and 2. downgrades the Big XII as a possible P3 in prestige, which is the only difference between P5 and G5. Not really sure why this is even discussed. We actually lived through this. We were the last champion of the Big East, a BCS conference. Then filled with non-BCS regardless of the embarrassment of the Big XII champion, it wasn't even considered, eventho it had Cincy, Uconn, usf all BCS teams. Haven't we heard for a year about the weakness of the new Big XII with all those non-P5 fill ins, and that's with BYU.
I think he was oc when they had deshaun and subsequently trevor lawrence. Anyone could look like a genius with those two qbs in college, especially against the acc
Good take. I would consider memphis, boise, and sdsu to be “back burner candidates”. So if we landed the two AZ schools but utah and colorado held out for whatever reason, we could maybe add memphis and sdsu and we would be right to do so.
One thing that is somewhat of an intangible with regards to sdsu, san diego was big on the chargers and most abandoned them when they moved to LA. SD peeps hate LA peeps. Their alumni are very much passionate about their team like we are and i think they are moving into an OCS because the okd chargers stadium they rented is being repurposed. I say this to say that SD is the 6th largest city and they dont have an nfl team. Could be value there but would still be best to add p5 brands first
He was Co -OC and the other guy called the plays.
Problem is that the cows have gone stale, I mean really stale. IPF not going to be done until December, OCS still not in motion, They have not been asked to the ACC yet so well yawn...
Not a bad way to move. Hell, willie taggart never had any success outside of 2017 and he parlayed that into multiple p5 HC opps
I have yet to see any hard evidence of anything Jeff Scott did at Clemson.
I heard he brought Dabo his coffee every day, and did his laundry.
You're not going to win this argument. I'm going to be nice and tell you to put your glasses back on and roll.
you are correct about South Florida. What i read from other parts of the country is they are the next best available option in the east but their facilities are a non starter. But from the best that i could coble together from this disagreement, which should have its own thread, shouldn't be in Bull Tears thread, I think you are more on the money. It wasn't about the Pac 12 offering anybody. Everybody in the Big 12 asked if they could join, not formally of course. But every Big 12 school asked if the pac 12 had any interest in them. The Pac 12 said no. Nobody was going to leave the safety of the Pac 12 to join a conference that was going to collapse (the Big 12). Since the pac passed on everybody, the remnants of the Big 12 banded together and decided to do the best they could do and add the next best 4 schools which happened to be BYU, Cincy, UCF and Houston (I thought Memphis would have been a better add, but Houston is a much larger market.)
If things had happened in the reverse order, USC and UCLA announced last July they were leaving for the Big 10, and OU and Texas were not headed for the SEC at that time, the Big 12 could have had their pick of any of the Pac 12 leftovers- the Big 12 would have seemed safe with OU and UT still on board. The Big 12 could have expanded with 2-6 schools from the Pac 12 (expanding to 12-16 members). Having done so, their media rights contract with OU and UT still on board would have been worth a lot more. OU and Texas might have stayed in the Big 12- if the money would be close, and they could still be the top dogs, they probably would have stayed and we (UCF) would not have gotten the call up to the big leagues.
I forget who mentioned that we were lucky that things happened the way they did, but that person couldn't have been more right.
USF won't be the front runner for the East once The University of North Carolina at Charlotte – plays a few years in the American. Their stadium was approved in 2008 and finished in 2012. Seating 15K got the ball rolling and now planned to expand. The 15k stadium puts them ahead of USF.
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Co-OC…it’s been said that he was basically just in title b/c he was there like 15 years, he didn’t call plays. He’s a boob, glad he coaches the cows.
i love below ground level lower bowls. wish we could have those in florida. saves a lot of money too.
The AAC wins games that matter, and yet there is no P6. Memphis, Tulsa have been impressive in games that matter, yet not so great there after. I'm just nervous of the probably very small chance the Big 12 becomes the new Big East.
*** had to look up SDSU to see if they ever won any games that matter, may have, but I gave up and have to agree they fit in perfectly with the Big 12 or at least with Baylor, look up girl raped by 5 football players covered up/not investigated by university. (Here's hoping that's resolved.)
No need to worry about something that pretty much has zero chance of happening.
Just heard way too many 'Big XII is weakest' articles over the last year, with many others saying it's obviously the PAC.
There are a couple of ways to look at this. There are those that say that the PAC12 has the better top end schools.....which is true IMO. But......that is precisely the problem with the BIG or SEC looking at 3 or 4 of them to poach in the next couple of years if they don't want to do the heavy lifting to break up the ACC.
OTOH, the Big12 has a better competitive league top to bottom, with no blue blood or National brands, and the 4 corner schools are being smart to see what we offer.
Can y’all make a new thread? I only want to see bull tears in this one 😎
OK, this one takes the cake. It's from a thread called "Why" We will go "Un-Duh-Feeted" or 12-1 in 2022"
That has to be a troll! 🤣 The reasons for victory are absolute gold!OK, this one takes the cake. It's from a thread called "Why" We will go "Un-Duh-Feeted" or 12-1 in 2022"
Tulane’s my favorite since they have a good argument with their pointOK, this one takes the cake. It's from a thread called "Why" We will go "Un-Duh-Feeted" or 12-1 in 2022"
They are now talking about how we beat a UF team in the bowl that was playing their 2nd & 3rd string and didn’t care about the game. I was in the stands with some UF guys, the fans surely cared and still triggered today. The teams were definitely playing hard and only a DL was sitting out that any of us could see. Elam even played, don’t know where that narrative came from as just wasn’t the case.
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If you look at their history of "big" wins against P5 teams, that's pretty much been the modus operandi ... but they've definitely parlayed that into where they are.
Dead Man Walkin'....
"I believe we've made a lot of progress," Scott said recently. "We've added a lot of depth and that's something I've been concerned about. One good thing about the transfer portal, you can flip your roster much more quickly than you used to.
"When you add high school players, they have to be developed before they can really help you. With the transfer portal, you can add players that can contribute right away and the relationships you have with college coaches, they're much more likely to give you an honest assessment of a player's ability, what kind of fit they'll be."
"But there's no question, it's time for us to have success on the field. We've laid the foundation with our staff and players. It's year three. We need to win."
"I believe we've made a lot of progress," Scott said recently. "We've added a lot of depth and that's something I've been concerned about. One good thing about the transfer portal, you can flip your roster much more quickly than you used to.
"When you add high school players, they have to be developed before they can really help you. With the transfer portal, you can add players that can contribute right away and the relationships you have with college coaches, they're much more likely to give you an honest assessment of a player's ability, what kind of fit they'll be."
"But there's no question, it's time for us to have success on the field. We've laid the foundation with our staff and players. It's year three. We need to win."
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