They can sing that song. You can't.
Unhinged lunatics you all are
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They can sing that song. You can't.
hes stated several times that he has tds and is shook. nothing from him should surprised us, and yet every time i think hes hit rock bottom stupid, he finds a way to dig the hole deeper.
Unhinged lunatics you all are
That's their song. 85 shouldn't sing it.hes stated several times that he has tds and is shook. nothing from him should surprised us, and yet every time i think hes hit rock bottom stupid, he finds a way to dig the hole deeper.
you should stop following the msm. its really bad for your tds and only makes you more shook. maybe spend more time with that family of yoursThat's their song. 85 shouldn't sing it.
Maybe I'm mocking 85 for suggesting that he shouldn't sing a nursery rhyme or the liberal boogeyman will get him.you should stop following the msm. its really bad for your tds and only makes you more shook. maybe spend more time with that family of yours
you should stop following the msm. its really bad for your tds and only makes you more shook. maybe spend more time with that family of yours
idk he always looks like an idiot. why stop now?I think he's conceded how idiotic his side is on this and is just trolling now.
https://splinternews.com/ron-desantis-moderated-a-facebook-group-full-of-racists-1828704293
I wonder if 85 is a part of this Facebook group. It says they started posting shit about McCain including calling him friendly with jihadists. Remember when 85 posted that picture that was totally fake and then he said, "yeah I knew it was fake but it's still bad" after he got called out?
idk he always looks like an idiot. why stop now?
https://splinternews.com/ron-desantis-moderated-a-facebook-group-full-of-racists-1828704293
I wonder if 85 is a part of this Facebook group. It says they started posting shit about McCain including calling him friendly with jihadists. Remember when 85 posted that picture that was totally fake and then he said, "yeah I knew it was fake but it's still bad" after he got called out?
How dumb do you have to be to not know that you're allowed to talk about monkeys but not allowed to refer to a black person as a monkey.
K.
Did you tag me?
Remember when you claimed that the right to vote was written multiple times in the Constitution and then ran away when I pointed out how hilariously wrong that was?
I love how quickly you liberals turned into bed wetting whiny morons over DeSantis. It'll be a pleasure voting for him.
What, that someone giving the school millions so their one kid can get in is the same as making separate rules for an entire race of people, based solely on the color of their skin, that convey the sentiment that they aren’t good enough so you’re going to create special rules for them?
Or that some of the extra money that schools get from legacies is used to provide scholarships for other students that qualify academically but can’t afford the school?
Do you feel that there is an equivalence there?
I was focusing on preferences solely based upon a relative. You are discussing people who donate money, which is a different topic. Do you think it is fair to have a lower entrance criteria just because your father went to that school?
I don't think your definition of legacy is correct, there isn't money involved.Also, by asking this question in response, are you implying that there is a racial component to legacies?
Sure, why not? Legacy preferential treatment is not based on race or any other "identity" boxes, other than the fact that prior family are alumni of that university. There's value to a university to have generations of families involved and invested in their institution.
I'm also going to assume that the number of legacies being admitted due to dumbed down admission requirements pales in comparison to kids with the right identity boxes checked getting in thanks to dumbed down admission requirements.
How about preferential treatment based on on many generations of your ancestors are college educated at the university.Sure, why not? Legacy preferential treatment is not based on race or any other "identity" boxes, other than the fact that prior family are alumni of that university. There's value to a university to have generations of families involved and invested in their institution.
I'm also going to assume that the number of legacies being admitted due to dumbed down admission requirements pales in comparison to kids with the right identity boxes checked getting in thanks to dumbed down admission requirements.
Sure, why not? Legacy preferential treatment is not based on race or any other "identity" boxes, other than the fact that prior family are alumni of that university. There's value to a university to have generations of families involved and invested in their institution.
I'm also going to assume that the number of legacies being admitted due to dumbed down admission requirements pales in comparison to kids with the right identity boxes checked getting in thanks to dumbed down admission requirements.
That's very short-sighted and incorrect on both accounts. Considering that certain groups (blacks, Hispanics, Indians) were legally discriminated against in the earlier years of universities which allowed opportunities for people of the government's choosing to advance in society solely because of the color of their skin is a racial based preference. Now because of these legacy preferences, which are also racial, descendants are able to take advantage of a system that rewards them because of discrimination decades/centuries earlier. In order to rectify this, some race base entrance preferences were created (and starting to be phased out now) for the first generation of post-segregated education in order to help close the gap. These usually composed about 1-2% of admissions which is most likely lower than the legacy admissions. So your argument is that the crumbs should be taken away from the hungry because they weren't fully earned. While the meals should continue for those who have a family history with the university solely based on the past connection. If you are for legacy preferences but against affirmative action then you are being a hypocrite.
the left always seems to forget about asian americans for some reason....Yea well, that's like your opinion man.
I'd be more than happy to compromise and do away with both. I see more merit in Legacy admission preference, but if push came to shove then do away with it too, to assure that we get rid of the unfair and biased acceptance criteria with identity based admissions.
By the way, the most marginalized group of students thanks to affirmative action admission policies is another minority- Asian Americans. In fact there are several lawsutis by Asian American groups asserting that these biased admission policies have unfairly denied them entry into the colleges they want despite clearly being the most qualified.
If you scroll down in that page, you’ll see the claim that “the main reason for legacy preference is to increase donations.” Then it claims that, while donations don’t seem to increase, donations do decrease when a legacy is denied.I don't think your definition of legacy is correct, there isn't money involved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences
So incentivize their learning throughout their life rather than make changes that leave them less prepared and put them into situations where either they are destined to struggle or you have to degrade the quality of the education for all.That's very short-sighted and incorrect on both accounts. Considering that certain groups (blacks, Hispanics, Indians) were legally discriminated against in the earlier years of universities which allowed opportunities for people of the government's choosing to advance in society solely because of the color of their skin is a racial based preference. Now because of these legacy preferences, which are also racial, descendants are able to take advantage of a system that rewards them because of discrimination decades/centuries earlier. In order to rectify this, some race base entrance preferences were created (and starting to be phased out now) for the first generation of post-segregated education in order to help close the gap. These usually composed about 1-2% of admissions which is most likely lower than the legacy admissions. So your argument is that the crumbs should be taken away from the hungry because they weren't fully earned. While the meals should continue for those who have a family history with the university solely based on the past connection. If you are for legacy preferences but against affirmative action then you are being a hypocrite.
Yea well, that's like your opinion man.
I'd be more than happy to compromise and do away with both. I see more merit in Legacy admission preference, but if push came to shove then do away with it too, to assure that we get rid of the unfair and biased acceptance criteria with identity based admissions.
By the way, the most marginalized group of students thanks to affirmative action admission policies is another minority- Asian Americans. In fact there are several lawsutis by Asian American groups asserting that these biased admission policies have unfairly denied them entry into the colleges they want despite clearly being the most qualified.
I’d love to see the source of your statistics referencing percentage of legacies in admissions to affirmative action.That's very short-sighted and incorrect on both accounts. Considering that certain groups (blacks, Hispanics, Indians) were legally discriminated against in the earlier years of universities which allowed opportunities for people of the government's choosing to advance in society solely because of the color of their skin is a racial based preference. Now because of these legacy preferences, which are also racial, descendants are able to take advantage of a system that rewards them because of discrimination decades/centuries earlier. In order to rectify this, some race base entrance preferences were created (and starting to be phased out now) for the first generation of post-segregated education in order to help close the gap. These usually composed about 1-2% of admissions which is most likely lower than the legacy admissions. So your argument is that the crumbs should be taken away from the hungry because they weren't fully earned. While the meals should continue for those who have a family history with the university solely based on the past connection. If you are for legacy preferences but against affirmative action then you are being a hypocrite.
You are correct about the 2nd paragraph. Once affirmative action is removed, Asian-Americans dominate admission. However, their denial of entry is because the colleges want to remain traditionally white or in line with the current demographics, more affirmative action. Legacies will be used to maintain that racial make up.
I’d love to see the source of your statistics referencing percentage of legacies in admissions to affirmative action.
So incentivize their learning throughout their life rather than make changes that leave them less prepared and put them into situations where either they are destined to struggle or you have to degrade the quality of the education for all.
Maybe offer socioeconomically disadvantaged families a $1000 grant for every 3.0 or higher report card. I would bet that a family that could earn an extra $4k per child per year would put some familial attention into a kid’s schooling. Since we’re already moving towards $15k per student, this isn’t hugely out of scope.
Harvard's 2021 class is 29% legacy. You think that they let in 29% black and hispanics?I think he's massively inflating the assumed number of legacies actually get in purely because of reduced admission standards. I think it's a tiny %.
how many of those legacy applicants actually had lower gpa and test scores?Harvard's 2021 class is 29% legacy. You think that they let in 29% black and hispanics?
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/06/harvards-incoming-class-is-one-third-legacy.html
They are on average lower.how many of those legacy applicants actually had lower gpa and test scores?
Harvard's 2021 class is 29% legacy. You think that they let in 29% black and hispanics?
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/06/harvards-incoming-class-is-one-third-legacy.html
They are on average lower.
care to quote the article with the stat that backs up your claim?They are on average lower.
care to quote the article with the stat that backs up your claim?
When you talk local, you’re talking a school district which is an entire county for central Florida. Within that, I suspect that government funds are often distributed on a need basis within communities as much as an expectation basis (I need to look up the numbers, only have anecdotes now). Sure, some schools have private donors as well but that’s not what we’re talking about. Now, as for what those schools are spending their money on, that is driven by community but is a large function of social drivers and certainly not anything biological.The problem is in funding. It's almost like a P5 vs G5 thing. Schools are funded by the local tax base. If you live in a higher income area, you buy a bigger house, you pay more taxes, the schools get more money, they pay teachers better and have more resources to deliver a better education. If you take a kid from a socioeconomically disadvantaged background and put him/her in sh*tty school from K-12, there is no way they will be prepared for college education. Everybody wants their kid to have an advantage over every other kid which incentivizes the funding discrepancies. I look at it as a national & economic security issue because we are not utilizing our entire talent pool. Then businesses have to employ people from other countries.
you have an awfully big mouthYou honestly are a complete and utter fuking moron if you actually think this. Racist dumbass piece of shit parent.
You run your mouth every day saying 85
you have an awfully big mouth