He’s intentionally obtuse.I didn't say free travel. Freedom to travel.
He’s intentionally obtuse.I didn't say free travel. Freedom to travel.
Republicans realizing the only way to bring back Jim Crow laws and limit the people from voting is to try to change the law forcibly.This law is being presented as a way to stop voter fraud (that isn't a serious problem) but the things in it are very telling.
How exactly does making it illegal to give voters waiting in long lines a bottle of water prevent fraud?
This is about making it harder for minorities to vote and that's all. Everyone knows it but no one is allowed to say it.
how bout the executive lounge.Does he require ID for passengers that fly on his airplanes?
You do realize that the new law in Georgia is going to INCREASE voting access, not restrict it, right?Republicans realizing the only way to bring back Jim Crow laws and limit the people from voting is to try to change the law forcibly.
Voter suppression has its consequences. The SEC is up next.
Yeah the SEC doesn’t have a good history on things like this. They didn’t start allowing African American players till Southern Cal came to Tuscaloosa and embarrassed a Bear Bryant coached teamI dont think the SEC would have anywhere to go, unless they just moved championships out of SEC territory, which I dont see happening.
UCF didn't have a black football player until 1979.Yeah the SEC doesn’t have a good history on things like this. They didn’t start allowing African American players till Southern Cal came to Tuscaloosa and embarrassed a Bear Bryant coached team
Yeah the SEC doesn’t have a good history on things like this. They didn’t start allowing African American players till Southern Cal came to Tuscaloosa and embarrassed a Bear Bryant coached team
Yeah the SEC doesn’t have a good history on things like this. They didn’t start allowing African American players till Southern Cal came to Tuscaloosa and embarrassed a Bear Bryant coached team
HR1I'm loving the narrative that this law is just going to cost Kemp his re-election because more people will come out to vote.
Um, how are they going to if this makes it harder to vote? Derp.
The same thing with UK basketball. Adolph Rupp didnt recruit black players until they were beaten by a mostly black Texas Western team in the championship. But even besides that, if the SEC were to move the championship game out of Georgia, just not sure where they would go. Nashville, New Orleans, or Tampa would make the most sense, but Tennessee's state legislature is nuts, and doesnt Florida have a similar bill on the table?
was a response to them moving their Conference Championship game out of Atlanta , the whole conference are in States run by like minded peopleThat was like over 50 years ago. I'd say things have changed just slightly for the SEC.
was a response to them moving their Conference Championship game out of Atlanta , the whole conference are in States run by like minded people
That’s what you call a straw man. Unless you can tell me which urban area only has 1 machine.Yeah, urban areas with 1 machine just need more poll workers. That's going to solve it.
It will. The Democrats and media have shamelessly lied about this bill and their version of what’s happening has taken hold and fired up the Democratic base.I'm loving the narrative that this law is just going to cost Kemp his re-election because more people will come out to vote.
Um, how are they going to if this makes it harder to vote? Derp.
Unironically, this bill mandates more machines be purchased in the districts with high minority populations.That’s what you call a straw man. Unless you can tell me which urban area only has 1 machine.
Non Partisan Election nerd Weiserman thinks Georgia will go the way of Virginia in a few cyclesIronically, Democrats will flood to the polls without any issue and sweep Kemp out of office, and Georgia will be blue for the foreseeable future.
It won’t take a few cycles. Stacy Abrams will be governor in a few years and will make both voting and fraud comically easy to do.Non Partisan Election nerd Weiserman thinks Georgia will go the way of Virginia in a few cycles
Polling places that have more than an hour wait can't fix it with more humans. People don't vote with workersThat’s what you call a straw man. Unless you can tell me which urban area only has 1 machine.
Good. It should be easy to vote. Will increase turnout.It won’t take a few cycles. Stacy Abrams will be governor in a few years and will make both voting and fraud comically easy to do.
Not making any predictions about whether fraud will occur, but it will be easy.
Should be easier and faster to get a license, but that's not the case either.Good. It should be easy to vote. Will increase turnout.
It won’t take a few cycles. Stacy Abrams will be governor in a few years and will make both voting and fraud comically easy to do.
Not making any predictions about whether fraud will occur, but it will be easy.
Define "easy". Like easier than getting a fishing or hunting permit?Good. It should be easy to vote. Will increase turnout.
Define "easy". Like easier than getting a fishing or hunting permit?
You drunk bro? Thats probably the deepest post I think you've ever made, lol.I can get my hunting or fishing licenses via an app from the state of FL. I have always advocated for voting on your phone but recognize the potential security risks involved. However, there are many people who do banking, investing, and whatnot via their phone and it's perfectly fine/safe/secure.
I am not sure how to reckon through this in the future. I completely understand the ramifications of not voting in person and those who feel like it's a dubious process. But let's be clear--there are many of these same people who trust decisions in their lives--extremely important ones at that--to online devices that could be subject to nefarious consequences, and they don't bat an eye. Where this goes moving forward is anyone's guess, but I think that there has to be some ground for compromise.
You drunk bro? Thats probably the deepest post I think you've ever made, lol.
I'm on the same page here. We can see all of these processes we do on a daily basis like online banking and setting up utility accounts or investment transactions and it seems ridiculous that those are secure enough but voting somehow wouldn't be. On the flip side, something like a digital voting platform would have to be administered by someone in power, and power corrupts. Ultimately I guess I keep coming back to the position of "the system we have in place is actually pretty good". Obviously there are things that can be tweaked to make it more convenient to vote and still give people a sense of security in knowing that their vote was legitimately part of the process. I really do think that the Georgia law is a good step in the right direction, but I guess to some people it's the equivalent of a modern day lynching.
I just want the news to tell me who the best candidate is by ignoring the ones who don’t already have deep ties to DC and give me just two choices for the most powerful position in the country. Bonus points if those choices are a colorful pseudo-rapist/reality star and a geriatric puppet with no backbone that was rejected for the position twice before.I can get my hunting or fishing licenses via an app from the state of FL. I have always advocated for voting on your phone but recognize the potential security risks involved. However, there are many people who do banking, investing, and whatnot via their phone and it's perfectly fine/safe/secure.
I am not sure how to reckon through this in the future. I completely understand the ramifications of not voting in person and those who feel like it's a dubious process. But let's be clear--there are many of these same people who trust decisions in their lives--extremely important ones at that--to online devices that could be subject to nefarious consequences, and they don't bat an eye. Where this goes moving forward is anyone's guess, but I think that there has to be some ground for compromise.
Obviously in an ideal world we could vote extremely easily, and everyone would have their say without expending any effort.I can get my hunting or fishing licenses via an app from the state of FL. I have always advocated for voting on your phone but recognize the potential security risks involved. However, there are many people who do banking, investing, and whatnot via their phone and it's perfectly fine/safe/secure.
I am not sure how to reckon through this in the future. I completely understand the ramifications of not voting in person and those who feel like it's a dubious process. But let's be clear--there are many of these same people who trust decisions in their lives--extremely important ones at that--to online devices that could be subject to nefarious consequences, and they don't bat an eye. Where this goes moving forward is anyone's guess, but I think that there has to be some ground for compromise.
Obviously in an ideal world we could vote extremely easily, and everyone would have their say without expending any effort.
But the reason we can do online banking is because the app I have on my phone for SunTrust has detailed records I can check at any time and be assured that nothing has been taken from my account illegally.
It’s about confidence that my banking is being done properly. An online system for banking can perform its function and provide that confidence.
But online voting? Voting where people don’t have to prove their identity or eligibility? Safeguards to prevent people from voting more than once aren’t in place? Well... now people start to lose confidence in whether or not the process they just participated in was done properly.
If people can see an easy way to cheat, they won’t trust the outcome even if they won’t cheat themselves. Then no matter what, you have a serious problem for democracy: if cheating occurs, that’s a problem; if no cheating occurs but people don’t trust the outcome because cheating was too easy, that’s still a problem.
Did you even read my post?Banking, yes. Voting, no. That's what I always hear from folks. If it's good enough for our hard-earned money, it's good enough for us to use our fat little fingers to click for whichever recycled loon that the Republicans and Democrats have once again shat out...
Such as?Just throwing this out there since the focus in this thread has turned to ID's. There is far more to this bill than just ID's.