No one wants this clown and his "centrist" ideas. This MF is more conservative than the pre Trump republican party.
Howard Schultz
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i hope he does actually run and pulls alot of votes away from whatever crappy candidate the dems decide they want to run instead of actually voting to run.
Oh sweet summer child he's not getting any Democrat votes.
He is a billionaire who is running on a keep the rich rich platform. He spouted off on Morning Joe about how hes a great vantidate because hes learned so much along the way with starbucks and he knows what people are going through.
Then they asked him how much a box of cheerios cost and he didn't know.
Who gives a shit about your last question? I dont' know either. Do you know why? I don't eat cereal. OMG OUT OF TOUCH ALERT!
I'm indifferent on the guy right now but your characterization is hilarious. He's absolutely a Democrat; he's simply what D's looked like before the extreme fringe left wing of the party started dictating policy as they do today. The guy started Starbucks for God's sakes, the designated hang out spot for hipster liberals.
lol again @fried-chicken
Two top Democratic groups are threatening to devote resources to thwart former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz who announced over the weekend that he is “seriously considering” an independent bid for the White House.
At the center of their campaign to address the widespread concern among Democrats that a third-party campaign by the billionaire could steal vote away from their party’s nominee and deliver a second term to President Trump.
American Bridge, the top Democratic opposition research group, and the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, a top liberal organization, are warning Schultz against launching his third-party bid after he embarked on a book tour this week. Both groups are committed to defeating Trump, and they said Tuesday that if Schultz is an obstacle to achieving that goal, they will oppose him with full force.
Two top Democratic groups are threatening to devote resources to thwart former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz who announced over the weekend that he is “seriously considering” an independent bid for the White House.
At the center of their campaign to address the widespread concern among Democrats that a third-party campaign by the billionaire could steal vote away from their party’s nominee and deliver a second term to President Trump.
American Bridge, the top Democratic opposition research group, and the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, a top liberal organization, are warning Schultz against launching his third-party bid after he embarked on a book tour this week. Both groups are committed to defeating Trump, and they said Tuesday that if Schultz is an obstacle to achieving that goal, they will oppose him with full force.
I can't speak for all democrats but I have yet to meet a single one that finds this dude appealing in anyway.
He is a Republican.
He is a Republican.
He's such a Republican that two of the largest Democratic PACs are throwing huge money to discredit him, fearing he'd suck away D votes.
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Dipshit socialist from the Bronx again says something stupid and an adult has to respond to correct her
Do you find it funny hat you love the tax ideas of one of the most briandead people in Congress?
i really liked watching the left turn on their own and tear him down. it was entertaining to watch. i hope he stays in to provide more entertainment.
His housing projects were funded in part by a 91% top marginal tax rate on all earned income over today's inflation adjusted equivalent of 2MM per year.
Yet he can't run as a dem because he won't support 70% on 10 MM or more.
Another boomer who was created by the safety net they now so vehemently oppose.
Yet he can't run as a dem because he won't support 70% on 10 MM or more.
Another boomer who was created by the safety net they now so vehemently oppose.
lol I love it. It's 2019 and Democrats hate self-made American success stories, and love moron 20-somethings that have done exactly nothing but throw around fantastical (and stupid) socialist ideas at whim.
Nothing summarizes a liberal in 2019 better than the attempted take down of the friggin Starbucks founder and CEO.
When did it become a bad thing to make money in this country? 70% on anything over $10 million? That's insane.
Wasn't it Connecticut that kept raising state taxes on the rich so they all left?
When you think of the America that was great and the version you want to make America into again just know that it all happened under a 91% top marginal tax rate.
New democratic party is just stealing from the productive. That is what lazy people do. Feed of the productive.
Which was so obscene and so prohibitive to growth that a Democratic president ended those rates and dramatically cut those taxes, which in turn poured more Federal Revenue into the coffers and decreased unemployment by 2% in just two years.
Not to be outdone, the senile Senator from Vermont is now pushing for a new Death Tax that would punitively hit families and family businesses inheriting already 2-3x taxed money, and would START at 50% with a ridiculously low threshold of $3M. It would climb all the way up to 77%, seizing already taxed money for no other reason than a person's death.
It's on folks. For the DNC 2020 it's a race to see who can promise Venezuela fastest
It's on folks. For the DNC 2020 it's a race to see who can promise Venezuela fastest
I'm so glad the ultra rich have little plebs like you convinced they are worth defending and being outraged that they might have to pay some money. I'm sure that will make people not want to be rich anymore so they will stop trying to make money.
"Pay some money". lol. This is the confiscation of 50%+ of family money that the government has no right to. It's a morally bankrupt Death Tax.
You'd be better served and happier in life if you stopped obsessing over what rich people have and focus on your own success.
The democrat freak out over this is over the top. But who should potentially be concerned about this is Republicans. He’s essentially staking out a moderate republican stance. And the republican leaning “anybody” but Trump/never Trump group is stronger than most want to admit.
He would in all likelihood damage both groups.
He would in all likelihood damage both groups.
He's actually staking out the traditional democrat stance. Hopefully he does well and would give us a candidate who isnt batshit crazy leftist to consider.
No dude, he's staking out what used to be a normal, moderate Democrat before their standard policy became abortion up 'til birth, 70-90% tax rates, wealth surcharge taxes, open borders, calling barriers racist, and coming to the defense of Latin American dictators that the West has universally condemned.
I get that. But he’s also appealing to the economic conservatives that lean liberal on social issues. Those that are ok with wealth accumulation but aren’t anti-immigrant, are pro-choice, and aren’t railing on news agencies/govt agencies etc.
You will respond back that the Republicans aren’t anti-immigrant, just anti-illegal immigration. But with Trump’s travel ban and his previous racist remarks, the optics look really bad.
He would definitely do damage to a left dem with moderate dems. But Recent polling shows that there is a growing hope Trump gets a challenge within the party and Schultz would appeal to moderate Republicans and never Trumpers.
I disagree. The guy has said virtually nothing of substance on any issue. He has a life long history of donating to, cozying up to, and supporting Democrats. He's a liberal. Just because he may throw a few bones to conservatives doesn't mean they'll trust him.
I think both sides will shy away from the guy. Lefties will be in hysterics trying to beat Trump and conservatives will not want any part of another Maduro in charge from the far left.
Having a history in the coffee business, I welcome him to the debate. Then we can ask him why his company sued for the rights to a trademark that was rightfully owned by poor farmers in Africa who's only avenue for bringing themselves out of poverty was that trademark.
I agree. I don’t think he will even run, but if he does he will be a non-factor. In a way, he’s kind of like Trump. Outside the traditional parties, not particularly well defined in his policy views, but lacks the cult of personality aspect that really got Trump elected.
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Its a little more complicated than this article makes it out to be , but the cliffs notes version is this:
Ethiopian coffee farmers are unorganized but their product is in demand.
The ethiopian govt wanted to represent their best interests so they filed trademark rights for the farmers.
Starbucks said no way, we want to keep them from being able to charge more
Eventually they settled it, but it was predicated on Starbucks getting a cut in prices relative to smaller independent coffeehouses.
Basically Starbucks acted in the worst ways that a corporation can, first by attacking poor peoples chances of improving their lives, and then by using their influence to gain an unfair advantage over their competition. My roaster, who had developed personal relationships with the actual farmers was as mad about the deal as I have ever seen a person.
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