Jeffrey Epstein

[fried-chicken]

So we're still not addressing that Trump bragged about barging into a young teenage girls dressing room and is quoted about how much fun Epstein is while specifically addressing his passion for raping children? Instead we're playing "the other side is bad too?" Oof.

 

[UCFKnight85]

lol @Shook Chicken. Gets his ass handed to him repeatedly, leaves the board in shame for a while, then magically reappears when Daily Kos assures him that Trump is going to go to jail in this whole Epstein case.

This guy gets a hard on every time some far left blog assures him "this time we got 'em!" and that Trump will be pushed out of office. He comes here, posts a million times, then leaves when it blows up in his face.

 

[beelit47]

Shook chicken got shookity shooked again. Sometimes the truth hurts.

 

[fried-chicken]

So still not talking about Trump's likelihood for being involved and just saying shook and that I got my ass handed to me.

I guess having a president who hangs put with pedophile child rapists and talks about how much fun they are to be around because of their liking for young girls and also barged in to a young teenage dressing room and bragged about it is a tough one to counter. I'm sure those direct quotes from Trump himself is just my TDS acting up again.

 

[Crazyhole]

So still not talking about Trump's likelihood for being involved and just saying shook and that I got my ass handed to me.

I guess having a president who hangs put with pedophile child rapists and talks about how much fun they are to be around because of their liking for young girls and also barged in to a young teenage dressing room and bragged about it is a tough one to counter. I'm sure those direct quotes from Trump himself is just my TDS acting up again.

You're right that Trump may be complicit in this, but at this point there isnt much evidence that we should make that leap. Clinton ditching his secret service protection so he could fly down to the private island 26 times is much more compelling.

 

[Cubs79]

You're right that Trump may be complicit in this, but at this point there isnt much evidence that we should make that leap. Clinton ditching his secret service protection so he could fly down to the private island 26 times is much more compelling.

Do we know for sure he went to the Island? Clinton says he did not go to the Island and only took 4 trips with Epstein and they were for charity purposes. Obviously he could be lying, but it seems the whole Clinton to the Island idea is just being accepted as fact, when I think it is more of a rumor at this point.

But also, he is being accused of these acts in Florida and NYC, so one didn't have to go to the Island to participate.

 

[beelit47]

You're right that Trump may be complicit in this, but at this point there isnt much evidence that we should make that leap. Clinton ditching his secret service protection so he could fly down to the private island 26 times is much more compelling.

This plus the fact the clintons flew around the world with EP and he was a big donor to the corrupt Clinton Foundation. Since shook wants to jump to conclusions i will say it is more likely that we find Clinton negotiated the sweetheart deal and Acosta either went along with it or he was going to “commit suicide” with two bullets to the back of the head

 

[Crazyhole]

Do we know for sure he went to the Island? Clinton says he did not go to the Island and only took 4 trips with Epstein and they were for charity purposes. Obviously he could be lying, but it seems the whole Clinton to the Island idea is just being accepted as fact, when I think it is more of a rumor at this point.

But also, he is being accused of these acts in Florida and NYC, so one didn't have to go to the Island to participate.

Supposedly, court documents show that Clinton flew with him 26 times and flight logs show 10 trips together. You can dismiss the court documents because who knows whether it came from false statements but the flight logs are hard to refute.

 

[beelit47]

Supposedly, court documents show that Clinton flew with him 26 times and flight logs show 10 trips together. You can dismiss the court documents because who knows whether it came from false statements but the flight logs are hard to refute.

Pretty sure the FAA demands accuracy on those logs in case theres a crash, etc. not sure what the regulation of it looks like. What I can say is I have doubts someone would be able to claim Bill Clinton on their plane without scrutiny

 

[Cubs79]

Supposedly, court documents show that Clinton flew with him 26 times and flight logs show 10 trips together. You can dismiss the court documents because who knows whether it came from false statements but the flight logs are hard to refute.

Yeah but do the flight logs show he went to the Island?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-l...offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known THis is from Fox in 2016 that says there is no flight log showing Clinton went to the island. And don't take what I am saying the wrong way, nothing would surprise me with Clinton. But I do think there is a lot of unsubstantiated rumors that is getting passed around as fact.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Do we know for sure he went to the Island? Clinton says he did not go to the Island and only took 4 trips with Epstein and they were for charity purposes. Obviously he could be lying, but it seems the whole Clinton to the Island idea is just being accepted as fact, when I think it is more of a rumor at this point.

But also, he is being accused of these acts in Florida and NYC, so one didn't have to go to the Island to participate.

There are actual flight logs that show Clinton was on that aircraft at least 26 times. So he can lie all he wants but court ordered documents that have his name on flight logs kinda refute all of that.

Clinton could be totally innocent of any of this disgusting shit for all we know. I'm not going to say that 26 trips automatically means he was partaking in this child porn ring. I don't for a second think that being scummy and sleeping with other women like he did has anything to do with being into little kids.

However, it looks suspicious when he's trying to lie and cover up how many times he was on this aircraft, his relationship with the guy, etc

 

[Cubs79]

Pretty sure the FAA demands accuracy on those logs in case theres a crash, etc. not sure what the regulation of it looks like. What I can say is I have doubts someone would be able to claim Bill Clinton on their plane without scrutiny

There is no doubt Clinton traveled with him, the doubt is where he traveled too. There don't appear to be any logs showing he went to St Thomas with Epstein.

 

[Cubs79]

There are actual flight logs that show Clinton was on that aircraft at least 26 times. So he can lie all he wants but court ordered documents that have his name on flight logs kinda refute all of that.

Clinton could be totally innocent of any of this disgusting shit for all we know. I'm not going to say that 26 trips automatically means he was partaking in this child porn ring. I don't for a second think that being scummy and sleeping with other women like he did has anything to do with being into little kids.

However, it looks suspicious when he's trying to lie and cover up how many times he was on this aircraft, his relationship with the guy, etc

Nobody is disputing he traveled with him, even Clinton is saying he traveled with him. And keep in mind, flight logs and trips are not the same thing since many trips probably had several flights, it would mean more flight logs.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Shhhh dont mention too many names or the overlords may have you commit a seth rich

Not that you care about truth or facts, but the Seth Rich conspiracy theory was completely debunked as a Russian troll planted fake news story. Even Fox News was forced to issue a retraction.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/04/media/jerome-corsi-seth-rich/index.html

 

[Crazyhole]

I will be there too so

Nobody is disputing he traveled with him, even Clinton is saying he traveled with him. And keep in mind, flight logs and trips are not the same thing since many trips probably had several flights, it would mean more flight logs.

Totally true. The question to me is why did Clinton say he only flew with his 4 times when there is proof that it happened at least 10 and possibly 26 times? Why not say "I flew with him a few times" and give yourself an out?

 

[Cubs79]

I will be there too so

Totally true. The question to me is why did Clinton say he only flew with his 4 times when there is proof that it happened at least 10 and possibly 26 times? Why not say "I flew with him a few times" and give yourself an out?

I think he was talking about total trips. He says he went to Africa with him twice, Asia, and Europe, so that is 4 trips. If you have multiple flights on these trips it can add up pretty quickly. I think there is just a lot of rumor and speculation being thrown out right now, so we will see how it plays out.

 

[Crazyhole]

I think he was talking about total trips. He says he went to Africa with him twice, Asia, and Europe, so that is 4 trips. If you have multiple flights on these trips it can add up pretty quickly. I think there is just a lot of rumor and speculation being thrown out right now, so we will see how it plays out.

I get what you are saying and it may be true. A trip with 4 stops may not be considered 4 trips, it may be just 1. Is a round trip considered 2 or just 1? Might be some semantics involved here that muddy the waters.

 

[Cubs79]

I get what you are saying and it may be true. A trip with 4 stops may not be considered 4 trips, it may be just 1. Is a round trip considered 2 or just 1? Might be some semantics involved here that muddy the waters.

I think semantics is the issue. If I take a round trip to Hawaii (or wherever) with a layover, in LA, then I would technically be on 4 flight logs total, but I personally would only say I took one trip.

I think Clinton is a slimey dude, so it certainly wouldnt shock me if something came out of this with regards to him. Honestly, I feel the same with regards to Trump. But in saying that, we also have to remember that Epstein is a billionaire and people did actually do legitimate business with him. So just because a person was around him does not automatically equate to them being involved in the sex trafficking or child raping part of Epstein's life. I think we will obviously get the partisan angles on both Clinton and Trump from people, but until we actually see evidence then we need to keep in mind that is is simply rumor.

 

[Crazyhole]

And it begins. Alan Dershowitz is the first big name implicated.

 

[UCFKnight85]

And it begins. Alan Dershowitz is the first big name implicated.

He already had been and was cleared

 

[beelit47]

Heres another dem donor with sex trafficking ties:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/democrat...allegations-of-human-trafficking-revenge-porn

 

[GatorBull325]

Arrested last night on child sex trafficking charges. He was having underage girls flown to his Caribbean island so his friends could have sex with them.

Remember when the Clinton apologists were swearing that he was just flying down there for vacation? Lol.

I wonder if Epstein was keeping them in cages.

From my understanding he was FRIENDS with the Clintons and Trump. Why is it that you guys fight so hard to throw the other party under the bus when a scandal happens? That is why I hate both parties.

 

[beelit47]

From my understanding he was FRIENDS with the Clintons and Trump. Why is it that you guys fight so hard to throw the other party under the bus when a scandal happens? That is why I hate both parties.

See above: everyone knows each other in Palm Beach. Clinton doesnt live in Palm Beach but took 26 trips with the perv. Trump threw the perv out of mar a lago.

 

[Cubs79]

See above: everyone knows each other in Palm Beach. Clinton doesnt live in Palm Beach but took 26 trips with the perv. Trump threw the perv out of mar a lago.

There are also reports that Trump also visited the Island quite a bit, including one time where he was the only guest, besides 26 females. I would probably hold off on playing this as a partisan thing. Trump and Clinton are both sleazy guys, and could very well both be caught up in this.

The Trump throwing him out of Mar-a-lago actually raises questions to me. If he knew what he was doing, why didn't he notify law enforcement right then? Did he just throw him out so he wouldn't be caught up in it with it being no his property? We don't know all the details of this (or even if its true), but unless he went to the police then I am not sure he should be treated as a hero for protecting himself, which is how it seems to be at this point.

 

[Crazyhole]

From my understanding he was FRIENDS with the Clintons and Trump. Why is it that you guys fight so hard to throw the other party under the bus when a scandal happens? That is why I hate both parties.

How is this an example of throwing the other party under the bus? As far as I'm concerned both of these guys are scumbags and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they both were complicit in this crap. Am I supposed to defend Clinton after all of the sexual scandals he has been a part of because Trump may be guilty of the same thing?

 

[GatorBull325]

See above: everyone knows each other in Palm Beach. Clinton doesnt live in Palm Beach but took 26 trips with the perv. Trump threw the perv out of mar a lago.

Trump has known the man for over 15 years. He even let his wife rub her ass against him in this pic. lol Don't act like they weren't friends.

 

[UCFBS]

Trump has known the man for over 15 years. He even let his wife rub her ass against him in this pic. lol Don't act like they weren't friends.

And we'll just ignore the Clintons, as usual. This is why I liked neither, and tire of the left and right throwing mud that sticks to both of them.

Meanwhile, Ross Perot just died this week. Talk about a real leader.

 

[GatorBull325]

And we'll just ignore the Clintons, as usual. This is why I liked neither, and tire of the left and right throwing mud that sticks to both of them.

Meanwhile, Ross Perot just died this week. Talk about a real leader.

I never ignored the Clintons, the point of my post was that that buddy knew both Republicans and Democrats and UCFBS attempt to make this story political was just pointless. I totally agree with how you feel about both political parties. Im tired of it too.

 

[DaShuckster]

From my understanding he was FRIENDS with the Clintons and Trump.

Yeah, Bill and Donald both visited Epstein’s island for some young tail back in the day.

But the Red Hatters are allowed to take the sanctimonious moral high ground here because Bill visited the island multiple times and Trump only once.

 

[Crazyhole]

I just want to see as many people of power as is possible get brought down by this. The more, the better.

 

[Cubs79]

Yeah, Bill and Donald both visited Epstein’s island for some young tail back in the day.

But the Red Hatters are allowed to take the sanctimonious moral high ground here because Bill visited the island multiple times and Trump only once.

The thing about Trump and CLinton with this, is a lot of peopel are simply focused on flight logs. Which of course, doesn't regard the fact the Trump has his own plane, so he didnt have much of a use to go out of his way to fly somewhere with Epstein. And also, Epstein had a place in Manhatten and Palm Beach, which of course are the 2 places Trump lived. He wouldnt need a plane to go to either of those places. At this point we really dont know how involved Trump or Clinton were, but we know they both knew and hungout with Epstein. Neither side needs to be trying to take some sort of moral high ground on this as if the other person is worse, at least until we get more information.

 

[fried-chicken]

A video just got released of Trump and Epstein at a party in 1992.

It almost seems like the timing of his racist comments were meant to distract from this...

 

[DaShuckster]

A video just got released of Trump and Epstein at a party in 1992.

In the video, Trump pointed to one of the young women dancing and whispered something in Epstein's ear that had him doubling-over in laughter.

 

[ChrisKnight06]

In the video, Trump pointed to one of the young women dancing and whispered something in Epstein's ear that had him doubling-over in laughter.

 

[UCFKnight85]

OMG TRUMP IS IN ON IT OMG

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

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Yeah, I’ve never understood the appeal, particularly for southerners. If you asked your average southerner what they thought about Donald five years ago, they would have said he’s a loud mouthed, annoying yankee with a ridiculously obnoxious accent and a stupid comeover who needs his got damn ass whipped. Fast forward to today, and these same people are some of his biggest supporters. Crazy.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Yeah, I’ve never understood the appeal, particularly for southerners. If you asked your average southerner what they thought about Donald five years ago, they would have said he’s a loud mouthed, annoying yankee with a ridiculously obnoxious accent and a stupid comeover who needs his got damn ass whipped. Fast forward to today, and these same people are some of his biggest supporters. Crazy.

This blows my mind.

 

[UCFWayne]

Yeah, I’ve never understood the appeal, particularly for southerners. If you asked your average southerner what they thought about Donald five years ago, they would have said he’s a loud mouthed, annoying yankee with a ridiculously obnoxious accent and a stupid comeover who needs his got damn ass whipped. Fast forward to today, and these same people are some of his biggest supporters. Crazy.

someone in the dungeon explained it pretty well, youd have to wade into around page 100 of the thread. but basically he said for the past decade plus, the media has been going after anyone remotely conservative. they have bashed them, labeled them racists, shamed them. they made romney, probably one of the better politicians on either side, to look like a terrible person. and the media got away with it because none of the republicans stood up to it. then along comes trump and he simply didnt care about it and on top of that he fought back, calling them fake news. basically hes a fighter, and that appeals to a base of people that are tired of being called deplorables.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

someone in the dungeon explained it pretty well, youd have to wade into around page 100 of the thread. but basically he said for the past decade plus, the media has been going after anyone remotely conservative. they have bashed them, labeled them racists, shamed them. they made romney, probably one of the better politicians on either side, to look like a terrible person. and the media got away with it because none of the republicans stood up to it. then along comes trump and he simply didnt care about it and on top of that he fought back, calling them fake news. basically hes a fighter, and that appeals to a base of people that are tired of being called deplorables.

And I get all that and on top of it, he was running against one of the worst possible candidates in history. Picking the lesser of two evils, for most, was easy.

I don't think he will have that latter luxury in 2020.

 

[fried-chicken]

someone in the dungeon explained it pretty well, youd have to wade into around page 100 of the thread. but basically he said for the past decade plus, the media has been going after anyone remotely conservative. they have bashed them, labeled them racists, shamed them. they made romney, probably one of the better politicians on either side, to look like a terrible person. and the media got away with it because none of the republicans stood up to it. then along comes trump and he simply didnt care about it and on top of that he fought back, calling them fake news. basically hes a fighter, and that appeals to a base of people that are tired of being called deplorables.

That'll teach the lying media to call us racist! We'll elect a racist!