Mueller Report Has Been Filed UPDATE: 10 cases of obstruction of justice referred to Congress.
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If anyone needs a laugh today just remember when Wayne tried to claim he is a libertarian
These people truly believe that despite the fact that Barr is working with Mueller and his team, right now, to prepare the report for release later this month, that he LIED! about what's actually in the report and invented conclusions that Mueller didn't actually find.
It's insane.
i want the full report released with a little redacted as possible.
i would pay money to watch you and shook chicken see the release live.
Given the shenanigans that Trump's AG pulled with his 4-page summary once the 400-plus pages of the Mueller Report were finally submitted, it's hard for me to believe that all the redactions Barr makes will be 'above board.'
When you've been hired to protect your Boss's ass, you'll use whatever tools are at your disposal.
When you've been hired to protect your Boss's ass, you'll use whatever tools are at your disposal.
Lol...you think he is going to risk is reputation on a report that the full report is going to be released in a few weeks anyway. Got your tin foil hat?
They've already shown their hand; they will claim that the investigation was obstructed and concoct some conspiracy theory about the new AG.
The left will never admit they were wrong on this one, they will say the fact there isn't incriminating evidence on President Trump is proof he criminally obstructed or some fukcery.
And you know what? Good. Let the loudest voices redpill the swing states into not wanting to support their conspiracies when Trump is re-elected in a landslide.
This is true. Normal, non-lunatic Americans will reject lunatics like Shookster and Shook Chicken, reject their politics, and reject the democrats refusal to accept the Mueller report and harass the President anyways for things he was cleared of.
Let them Democrats continue acting like total nut jobs. I’m all for it
Let them Democrats continue acting like total nut jobs. I’m all for it
Really, well that's just some shit you think isn't it?
The actual polls on favorability show that Trump got no bump at all in favorability after exoneration. No one said "oh well that's over." They still hate him as much as ever. One of 2 things is happening.
1. They don't think it's over
2. They don't really care about the investigation because Trump has given them enough reasons to dislike him where one going away doesn't change anything.
You know how accurate the polls are right? Hillary was supposed to win in a landslide...lol
You still have the propaganda media pushing the narrative so it isn't surprising some tin foil hats remain.
this is true. the average american will distance themselves from the far left wing crazies and trump should be reelected again in 2020.
Damn straight, Wayne! Those radical, far left, yahoos who believe Americans should actually have a chance to READ the 400-plus page Mueller Report instead of 'wrapping up the 2 year investigation' with a 4 page summary by a Trump appointee are certifiably CRAZY!
Who needs self-discovery when Trump can spoon feed us everything we need to know?
There is 100% agreement and that was the vote. This made up propaganda that the report won't be released is bringing the LOLs. It was already stated mid May and now possibly April.
i have stated i want the full report released with as little redacted as possible. only that wont be enough for people with tds like you. it will be entertaining to see you lash out in your typical shookster fashion though.
Here's Jerry Nadler, Democratic House Judiciary Committee member who suffers from TDS, in 1998 in an interview with CBS insisting that parts of a Special Prosecutor's report must be kept secret, some may not even be legal to release, and Grand Jury testimony must not be released. Of course this was when the Special Counsel had investigated Bill Clinton; he has magically forgotten all of this while harassing Trump in 2019. Now this guy along with his fellow D lunatics are insisting that even stuff that is not legally allowed to be made public do so anyways to fuel their hatred of Trump and refusal to accept Mueller's findings.
NADLER: Well, we were just– the House was just reassembling today. We haven’t been in session for a month, so people were just arriving. I just got here in mid-afternoon, after having a series of meetings in New York. But we did get the report, which is now in the hands of the sergeant-at-arms under armed guard. It’s 36 boxes. We’re told it’s two copies, so it means 18 boxes per copy. There is, I gather, a 400- or 500-page report and the balance is appendices and supporting materials.
Now, Mr. Starr in his transmittal letter to the speaker and the minority leader made it clear that much of this material is Federal Rule 6(e) material, that is material that by law, unless contravened by a vote of the House, must be kept secret. It’s grand jury material. It represents statements which may or may not be true by various witnesses, salacious material, all kinds of material that it would be unfair to release.
So, I assume what’s going to have to happen before anything else happens is that somebody — the staff of the Judiciary Committee, perhaps the chairman and ranking minority member — is going to have to go over this material, at least the 400 or 500 pages in the report to determine what is fit for release and what is, as a matter of decency and protecting people’s privacy rights, people who may be totally innocent third parties, what must not be released at all. Now, the House Rules Committee will be meeting overnight, and I presume that we will vote tomorrow probably on a recommended rule as to how to handle the report.
NADLER: Well, we were just– the House was just reassembling today. We haven’t been in session for a month, so people were just arriving. I just got here in mid-afternoon, after having a series of meetings in New York. But we did get the report, which is now in the hands of the sergeant-at-arms under armed guard. It’s 36 boxes. We’re told it’s two copies, so it means 18 boxes per copy. There is, I gather, a 400- or 500-page report and the balance is appendices and supporting materials.
Now, Mr. Starr in his transmittal letter to the speaker and the minority leader made it clear that much of this material is Federal Rule 6(e) material, that is material that by law, unless contravened by a vote of the House, must be kept secret. It’s grand jury material. It represents statements which may or may not be true by various witnesses, salacious material, all kinds of material that it would be unfair to release.
So, I assume what’s going to have to happen before anything else happens is that somebody — the staff of the Judiciary Committee, perhaps the chairman and ranking minority member — is going to have to go over this material, at least the 400 or 500 pages in the report to determine what is fit for release and what is, as a matter of decency and protecting people’s privacy rights, people who may be totally innocent third parties, what must not be released at all. Now, the House Rules Committee will be meeting overnight, and I presume that we will vote tomorrow probably on a recommended rule as to how to handle the report.
How about you put your money where your mouth is? If when the full Mueller report is released, there is clear evidence that President Trump directly colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election, I will PayPal you $50 and write a 5 page essay over how and why I was wrong to think otherwise.
If he is exonerated by a clear lack of evidence Mueller had 2 years and millions of dollars to collect, you owe me $20 and 5 paragraphs.
That's a pretty generous handicap, so are you in?
Are you including Obstruction of Justice in your 'money where your mouth is' proposal?
I think its important for you to understand that if he isnt guilty of what he was being investigated for, then he couldn't be guilty of obstructing justice on an imaginary crime.
But sure, if President Trump is charged with Obstruction of Justice then you win.
LMAO. Somebody should have told all those lying fools inside the Trump Campaign.
I'll take your shifting of the goalposts as you admitting that your Russia Conspiracy theory will never amount to anything.
Shame you didn't have the confidence of a man to put money on it.
The descent into idiocy and conspiracy that I’ve seen from these people since Mueller clearered Trump is staggering
The investigation was in regards to the Trump campaign, not Trump specifically. Many indictments of campaign members came from the investigation. If it was found that Trump tried to interfere with the investigation of his campaign, he can most certainly be charged with obstruction without being charged with another crime. I am not saying that is going to happen, I am just saying your point isn't accurate.
it seems like there were some bad apples in and around the trump campaign. those people are paying the price with jail time and i am 100% ok with this. not one of those bad apples worked with russia which was the central question to the investigation.
i honestly hope that trump turns these investigations around on the left.
While maybe possible, it's also extremely difficult. Obstruction requires proof of intent and intent usually has to be backed by a person's knowledge of a crime and a deliberate attempt to obstruct with bringing those to justice involved in the crime. The entire Mueller investigation was to assess Russian interference and possible "collusion". We know that Trump had absolutely no wrongdoing with regards to colluding with Russia; therefore it's near impossible to prove that his intent was to obstruct Mueller from bringing those to justice who colluded with Russia, when there was never any collusion to begin with.
Liberals have framed this entire debate for 2 years under the assured determination that Trump was colluding with Russia, hence why they think there's obstruction to be found everywhere they look. They aren't prepared to accept that there was no collusion and thus no obstruction. And none of the guys who were indicted were indicted for obstructing on the topic of collusion with Russia to influence the campaign.
perhaps he should weaponize the irs to go after some liberal groups. maybe he could have some wide open investigations against the democrats involved in the 2016 election. i mean the dems did rig their own primary. is that not an attack on our democracy? i think a case could be made to open an investigation into that. cast an extremely wide net.
What do you think the Democrats did in the 2016 election? The DNC is a private organization, they can elect anyone they wish as their candidate (as can the RNC).
they literally rigged their primary for the candidate of their choice, not the choice of the people by popular vote. if that is not an actual attack on democracy the left has no ground to stand on when calling out the other side on that issue.
you are a partisan democrat if you cant see the problem with rigging a primary and are actually the problem with todays politics.
Pluueease. You think the DNC doesn't sell it as an open primary and not some third world election.
Bill Clinton was charged with obstruction over lying about oral sex. The investigation that lead to that charge was about real estate, and Clinton was not charged with anything regarding real estate, and oral sex isn't a crime. So should he have been charged with obstruction, since there was no underlying crime?
Liberals weren't running the investigation, Mueller was. So how they framed it is a completely different discussion.
We haven't read the report, so we don't know anything at this point, let's keep that in mind.
It is an open primary and Hillary won pretty easily. Do I think the DNC preferred Hillary? Yes I do. Do I think they rigged it? No.
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Hillary won the popular vote in the primary, and honestly she won it pretty easily. I do have a problem with rigging a primary, I just don't think they did rig the primary. Hillary had close to 4 million more votes than Bernie, so where do you see the rigging?
there are a lot of reports in the news media from 2016/2017 that claim that the primary was rigged. several high profile dems have come out and said they believe it was rigged.
i believe that is enough information to warrant the opening of a special council investigation into the dnc rigging their 2016 presidential primary for hillary clinton. this sounds like it was a direct attack on our democracy as we know it. i hope we spend the next 2+ years investigating every single angle of the dnc at that time. i hope that the scope is so large that we send people to jail for crimes unrelated to the actual rigging of the 2016 dnc primary. i promise to constantly post tweets and articles from right wing websites and pudnits every couple hours here for 2+ years. if after 2+ years of an investigation they find that there was no rigging of the 2016 dnc primary i wont let it go and pretend that it was still rigged.
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