"Send Her Back!"
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Can you imagine the level of inbred-ness required to look at that man and think "he should be in charge of nukes and lead the free world"
He is in charge. Voted in by millions of Americans who have professional jobs like businessmen, physicians and lawyers
While others with TDS who are pumping gas and flipping burgers like yourself wollow in their miserable lives obsessing over it 24/7
TDS
Trump Derangement Syndrome:
Unhappiness caused by the election of Donald Trump to the Presidency of the United States. Sufferers display an inordinate loathing for and preoccupation with Donald Trump. The grief and distress they suffer is real.
Paula: "But it's not fair, and it doesn't make any sense!"
Mack (her husband): "Honey, stop blogging and come to bed!"
Paula: "I hate Trump! I just hate him!"
Mack aside: "I wish there was something I could do to help Paula with her TDS. She just seems so unhappy. When is it going to end?"
Well Paula, maybe I can help
Trump Derangement Syndrome:
Unhappiness caused by the election of Donald Trump to the Presidency of the United States. Sufferers display an inordinate loathing for and preoccupation with Donald Trump. The grief and distress they suffer is real.
Paula: "But it's not fair, and it doesn't make any sense!"
Mack (her husband): "Honey, stop blogging and come to bed!"
Paula: "I hate Trump! I just hate him!"
Mack aside: "I wish there was something I could do to help Paula with her TDS. She just seems so unhappy. When is it going to end?"
Well Paula, maybe I can help
Defend a woman that hates America and talks about terrorist groups with smiles and admiration. Definitely serious TDS
I think about this often. It's pride and ego. At some point you have to only be concerned with truth. People have to believe that we all actually want the same things and legitimately just see things differently. If you can internalize that and then sincerely approach every single thing as trying to hear what someone else is saying and understand how they came to that point then you can't help but have some level of compassion and/or empathy. If you don't have that then you're doomed from the start. It's the most cliche bullshit but in trying to think it through I can't see another way. It can't be compelled through force! The troubling thing to me is figuring out how to get masses to see that. Remove yourself.
I agree with your point that people need to listen to each other more. However, I don't agree with you that we all actually want the same things. I dont think I am going out on a limb by saying I (and many people) dont want the same things as the people who were in Charlottesville want, for example.
I didn't say I wanted socialism but regardless, thanks for helping my claim that we all don't want the same things.
Reduce it. I'm saying if you start with the assumption we all want love, peace, security, abundance, happiness etc and work out from there you will get a lot more shit accomplished than thinking the other person is any less human than you. There is no alternative. I'm waiting to hear how another approach actually changes anything. Do you shame those individuals in to thinking differently? If you have any chance it's first by establishing common ground is it not?
I'm black, I Iive in Virginia. I drove right by a Klan rally at the Hanover Courthouse 2 weeks ago. What is the real solution to changing their thinking and ending the cycle they're sure to pass on to their kids?
https://www.richmond.com/news/local...cle_15e58460-1a15-5919-9e81-004d59ddbba1.html
Reduce it. I'm saying if you start with the assumption we all want love, peace, security, abundance, happiness etc and work out from there you will get a lot more shit accomplished than thinking the other person is any less human than you. There is no alternative. I'm waiting to hear how another approach actually changes anything. Do you shame those individuals in to thinking differently? If you have any chance it's first by establishing common ground is it not?
I'm black, I Iive in Virginia. I drove right by a Klan rally at the Hanover Courthouse 2 weeks ago. What is the real solution to changing their thinking and ending the cycle they're sure to pass on to their kids?
https://www.richmond.com/news/local...cle_15e58460-1a15-5919-9e81-004d59ddbba1.html
The sad truth is that you can actively do anything that will change their minds. All we really are left with is to just not engage them and if given the opportunity show kindness. You can't change groupthink but you can change opinions of individuals when the time is right.
Reduce it. I'm saying if you start with the assumption we all want love, peace, security, abundance, happiness etc and work out from there you will get a lot more shit accomplished than thinking the other person is any less human than you. There is no alternative. I'm waiting to hear how another approach actually changes anything. Do you shame those individuals in to thinking differently? If you have any chance it's first by establishing common ground is it not?
I'm black, I Iive in Virginia. I drove right by a Klan rally at the Hanover Courthouse 2 weeks ago. What is the real solution to changing their thinking and ending the cycle they're sure to pass on to their kids?
https://www.richmond.com/news/local...cle_15e58460-1a15-5919-9e81-004d59ddbba1.html
I dont know how you change the minds of people with those views. It is easy to say dialogue, but honestly, there has been dialogue on this topic for decades. At some point, we just have to realize some peoples views arent going to change. But this goes back to my point. I dont think we can start with the assumption we all want the same things.
most people want the same thing, conservatives, moderates, and liberals. its the extremes on both sides that dont want the same thing. we just disagree how we get there. hard to agree with a person that wants to go completely away from the ideas this country was founded and made it the best country in the world. i dont want the same thing as the people that support socialism here.
I agree with you on this, Wayne.
People here act like we're back in the McCarthy Days when the evil bugaboo was Communism. Now it's supposedly socialism. Socialism in the U.S. has been interwoven into the fabric of this country since before you and I were born.
There are a lot of diehard Conservative farmers in the Midwest -- but don't you dare take away their farm subsidies!!! um, guys? That's socialism.
There are a lot of cantankerous old folks who like to rail about the welfare state. But don't take away their monthly social security checks!!! One is socialism but the other is not???!?!?
The examples out there are limitless. For all the bluster about free markets and good ole 'red, white, and blue' capitalism, this country's history has always been a regular "push-pull" of capitalism and socialism. To act like socialism hasn't been a part of our country from the outset is disingenuous.
you are right, socialism has slowly crept into america. it needs to be stopped and then pushed out. im cool with removing the farm subsidies. i would like to see social security privatized. the less involved the gov is on just about everything the better.
i completely disagree with you on that last line though. this country didnt have anything socialist when it was first set up.
Reduce it. I'm saying if you start with the assumption we all want love, peace, security, abundance, happiness etc and work out from there you will get a lot more shit accomplished than thinking the other person is any less human than you. There is no alternative. I'm waiting to hear how another approach actually changes anything. Do you shame those individuals in to thinking differently? If you have any chance it's first by establishing common ground is it not?
I'm black, I Iive in Virginia. I drove right by a Klan rally at the Hanover Courthouse 2 weeks ago. What is the real solution to changing their thinking and ending the cycle they're sure to pass on to their kids?
https://www.richmond.com/news/local...cle_15e58460-1a15-5919-9e81-004d59ddbba1.html
As a white male conservative this makes me sick. It takes only 3 wackos to create a massive division. In general these individuals get slowly pushed back into shame. Hopefully their kids end up having a close friend that is black and they eventually realize everyone can get along. There is way to much emphasis on race, imo. I seem to get along with everyone. It shouldn't be difficult.
When we were first set up we had slavery and women didn't have the right to vote. So we might not have had socialism, but we certainly didn't have as many rights either. Needless to say, it was a different time than today. And to what degree do you want to get rid of it? Social security? medicare? military(?), infrastructure? Public schools?
Or what about natural disaster recovery? When a hurricane causes lots of damage in Florida, I assume you don't want Federal dollars correct? Since that would be socialist.
You really cant be serious???? Are you really trying to compare what currently exists to free college tuition, free healthcare for all including illegal aliens, bonds for babies and the green new deal???? Are you really comparing????
Huh? I didn't compare anything or even bring any of the things you mentioned up. I asked to what degree he wanted to get rid of socialism. It is a fair question. He is the one who said he wanted to push socialism out.
Socialistic policies are a classic case of conservatives saying "I don't want it, I don't want it, I don't want it".... unless, of course, it happens to benefit me.
get out of here with that slavery and women voting crap. we fought a war to stop one and eventually gave women and minorities the right to vote.
sure, get rid of social security and have a private option. i want the gov completely out of healthcare, that would ultimately reduce the cost of everything. sure im all for reducing the military spending. im ok with infrastructure spending because that falls in line with gov responsibilities. public schools are fine because we need an educated population. however, i would make drastic changes to the school boards, and cut administrative support staff significantly, and then use that same money and put back into higher teacher pay and supplies for classes. but only for k-12. i would make changes to how college is funded and the whole loan thing.
Wow can't you connect the dots and understand what the real issue is in these emerging progressive radical socialist policies?.......I have not seen anyone complain about any of the existing policies and programs you posted. This is not a binary all or nothing issue as you have implied it to be........it is about radical progressive socialist policies being proposed.
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If you hadn't identified yourself as a white male conservative, none of us would ever have been able to guess from this quote.
im all for classical liberalism in government. however, i would add the k-12 education to the list.
What are you talking about? I asked a question. I don't know what dots you think I was trying to connect, I was basically asking him for clarification.
None of it.......what I am strongly opposed to is free college tuition, free healthcare for all including illegal aliens, bonds for babies and the green new deal.......
I could have sworn you said a few posts ago that you weren't for those people who support socialism. Evidently you meant the socialism you like versus the socialism you don't like.
If you are bringing up how we were at the beginning of the country as the standard, then it is most certainly fair game to also bring up other ways in how we were at the beginning of the country. You can't have that both ways where it is fair game for you, but not for others.
What do you mean a private option? Isnt that just retirement plans? I am curious what you mean by that.
I didn't ask about reduced military spending. If you are truly against socialism, then it seems you would be against the military in general, and certainly against things like the VA.
What about disaster relief? Should the rest of the country help pay for Florida to recover from a hurricane?
I was asking him what he wanted to get rid of since he said, he wanted to push it out. None of the things you listed apply to my question to Wayne, but okie dokie.
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One of the classic conservative lines is "private options are always cheaper than any government option."
That's pure BS.
That's pure BS.
i doubt you even knew what classical liberalism was before i posted that diagram.
yes id rather people have their own retirement plans instead of social security.
you cant have a country without a military to defend its borders or its people. this is just a stupid argument from you. im all for reducing the spending we give to our military. i dont care of the va at all, and would consider removing it all together.
im ok with disaster relief, as disasters can happen to entire regions not just states. i would prefer more of it be done with charitable donations but if need be the state level. fed for large scale disasters. but keep it very limited in scope.
again im ok with the classical liberalism model with the addition of k-12 education.
this is really not that hard.
