Syria

[Knight_Light]

I know the Idiot in Chief (or whoever is making decisions) was given the options and he selected using the missiles. Good so far.

If we were going to blow up $60M, shouldn't we make sure we do some real damage? We should have destroyed their stockpile of bioweapons at the base

Mean like what Obama could have done in 2013...but he, Kerry and Rice ALL said (including Rice just months ago) that they were assured that biological weapons were removed from the Syrian Government?

So you are whining about a President who finally DID SOMETHING because his predecessor LIED and did NOTHING?

#wow

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

For sociopaths, morons, and neanderthals, I can certainly see how killing people would be cool. For those of us who live in the civilized world, death isn't regarded with such elation.

That's the best part of this whole thing: you goons can't come up with anything other than "that's so cool" to justify it. No strategic objective. No thoughts about long term affects. No recolection of the USA's 80 year history of supporting various tyrants coming back to haunt us... History already shows us that we are making a mistake, but you dolts think missiles are cool, so it's all good.

Why didn't you faux rage when Obama was bombing Syria, Lybia, invading Pakistan, etc? Big ole meanie Trump does the same thing Obama did and you flip your shit. You're nothing more than a partisan hack. Go back to KOS and HuffPo so you can rage all you want and not look like a hypocritical dumb fuk.

 

[Poolside Knight]

This Syrian took 10 seconds(starts at 1:10 in) to sniff out Hillary's bs hypocrisy while she tries to get back into the political scene .

 

[Knight_Light]

This Syrian took 10 seconds(starts at 1:10 in) to sniff out Hillary's bs hypocrisy while she tries to get back into the political scene .

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Wow! Powerful!

CNN Host was so embarrassed trying to protect Hillary/Obama and bash Trump, it looked like she was gonna cry.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

That anchor... Roflroflrofl. She got destroyed.

 

[UCF11and1]

Mean like what Obama could have done in 2013...but he, Kerry and Rice ALL said (including Rice just months ago) that they were assured that biological weapons were removed from the Syrian Government?

So you are whining about a President who finally DID SOMETHING because his predecessor LIED and did NOTHING?

#wow

WTF? Why bring Obama into this?

If you are going to fire missiles, make sure you hit something that makes sense

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

That anchor... Roflroflrofl. She got destroyed.

It's almost as great as her reaction to this:

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

WTF? Why bring Obama into this?

If you are going to fire missiles, make sure you hit something that makes sense

That's rich, you're really defending the guy that blamed everything bad that happened under his watch on Bush? Trump had to do what he did because of Obama. Remember that red line Obama brushed under the rug? Obama should have done what Trump did four years ago.

 

[UCFKnight85]

This Syrian took 10 seconds(starts at 1:10 in) to sniff out Hillary's bs hypocrisy while she tries to get back into the political scene .

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Even Syrians can see through the absolute shit sandwich that CNN serves up.

Don't show this to chemmie- he knows what Syrians wants better then Syrians

 

[MACHater02]

That's rich, you're really defending the guy that blamed everything bad that happened under his watch on Bush? Trump had to do what he did because of Obama. Remember that red line Obama brushed under the rug? Obama should have done what Trump did four years ago.

He blamed some of the things that happened prior to his watch on Bush. Which is undeniable. Trump didn't have to do anything, nor do we know what impact his actions will have if any.

 

[Knight_Light]

WTF? Why bring Obama into this?

If you are going to fire missiles, make sure you hit something that makes sense

Huh? Those missles destroyed 20 aircraft. Heck, Syria had to fly in replacements since those on the base were destroyed.

Those "small" 1,000 lb warheads did what they were suppose to do.

Did you expect a half a dozen B-52's to fly over and destroy the entire base?

Be honest for a half a second...If Trump had ordered that, your ilk (I won't even include most Dems in Congress who SUPPORTED Trump's decision for the middle strike) would have been the first to whine about the "overkill" attack and would have suggested a more strategical attack to "send a message".

 

[CommuterBob]

The money for those weapons were spent LONG ago. We didn't just hit an ATM and go buy a missile last week. FFS people, think.

And you don't think those munitions will be resupplied? Yes, the funds were spent long ago, but it's not like they won't be replenished.

 

[Great2BAKnight2]

I really dislike military action without Congressional approval. It's a power the President has gained in the last 20 years that needs to be restrained. Trump's action is a continued escalation of that power, just look at the progression since Obama.

-Obama cited the 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force since his targets in Syria were terrorist groups, even though Congress rejected the authorization.
-Trump has received no authorization from Congress and has not cited an authorization for these attacks. It's just an attack based on an action.

That's not to say action shouldn't be taken, but go through the legal channels and perhaps get UN support before engaging. Does it take longer? Absolutely, but war shouldn't be started quickly unless in self-defense.

At the end of the day, this is really a self serving move for Trump because new wars always increase Presidential approval ratings. Even John Jay in Federalist #4 predicted how leaders gain by war,

It is too true, however disgraceful it may be to human nature, that nations in general will make war whenever they have a prospect of getting anything by it; nay, absolute monarchs will often make war when their nations are to get nothing by it, but for the purposes and objects merely personal, such as thirst for military glory, revenge for personal affronts, ambition, or private compacts to aggrandize or support their particular families or partisans. These and a variety of other motives, which affect only the mind of the sovereign, often lead him to engage in wars not sanctified by justice or the voice and interests of his people. But, independent of these inducements to war, which are more prevalent in absolute monarchies, but which well deserve our attention, there are others which affect nations as often as kings; and some of them will on examination be found to grow out of our relative situation and circumstances.

 

[Knightsweat]

And you don't think those munitions will be resupplied? Yes, the funds were spent long ago, but it's not like they won't be replenished.

In the overall scope of Tomahawk inventories, this attack might, or might not, require a replenishment. But I wasn't saying they would never be replenished, just that we buy these systems over long term buys, which usually decrease in price as each buy happens. Affordability is the current mantra of the DoD and defense industry, so typically these systems are more expensive at the front end of these programs, and decrease in cost per unit as production contracts continue.

 

[cnewton157]

Looks like the Russians likely knew of the attack beforehand then bombed the hospital where some victims were being treated.

https://apnews.com/19772be1238e49fb...sia-knew-in-advance-of-Syrian-chemical-attack

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

Looks like the Russians likely knew of the attack beforehand then bombed the hospital where some victims were being treated.

https://apnews.com/19772be1238e49fb...sia-knew-in-advance-of-Syrian-chemical-attack

That means Trump knew to and didn't do anything to stop it. Putin just let him do the meaningless Tomahawk attack to try and cover up that Trump was in on it.

 

[Boston.Knight]

Looks like the Russians likely knew of the attack beforehand then bombed the hospital where some victims were being treated.

https://apnews.com/19772be1238e49fb...sia-knew-in-advance-of-Syrian-chemical-attack

Look at the Government media spin machine in action. ! I'm impressed. "A senior government official says". LOL. Another pre-emptive strike, this time on the propaganda side. Distract and deflect.

 

[sk8knight]

Intelligence Uprising
Alarm within the U.S. intelligence community about Trump’s hasty decision to attack Syria reverberated from the Middle East back to Washington, where former CIA officer Philip Giraldi reported hearing from his intelligence contacts in the field that they were shocked at how the new poison-gas story was being distorted by Trump and the mainstream U.S. news media.


Former CIA officer Philip Giradi. (Photo credit: Gage Skidmore)

Giraldi told Scott Horton’s Webcast: “I’m hearing from sources on the ground in the Middle East, people who are intimately familiar with the intelligence that is available who are saying that the essential narrative that we’re all hearing about the Syrian government or the Russians using chemical weapons on innocent civilians is a sham.”

Giraldi said his sources were more in line with an analysis postulating an accidental release of the poison gas after an Al Qaeda arms depot was hit by a Russian airstrike.

“The intelligence confirms pretty much the account that the Russians have been giving … which is that they hit a warehouse where the rebels – now these are rebels that are, of course, connected with Al Qaeda – where the rebels were storing chemicals of their own and it basically caused an explosion that resulted in the casualties. Apparently the intelligence on this is very clear.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...r-intelligence-confirms-russian-account-syria

If there were any assets on the ground that were able to sample the agent, they would've, within hours of getting samples to Turkey, been able to characterize not only the type of agent but also distinguish unique discriminatory markers that would allow the US to identify the origin of the agent. If there was any type of inventory of Assad's arsenal before the so-called elimination, then the US and Russia would've known exactly what Assad had and could produce. Regardless of what this proven liar is trying to push to keep himself relevant, or what the Russians are trying to stir the pot with, the actual facts are easily there to be found by our decision makers.

 

[Boston.Knight]

 

[Poolside Knight]

You do realize that screencap is from 2013?

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

You do realize that screencap is from 2013?

 

[btbones]

You do realize that screencap is from 2013?

This is Boston we are talking about here . your expectations were a little high lol

 

[Boston.Knight]

You do realize that screencap is from 2013?

Very good you friggin dolt. The purpose was to show not much has changed since 2013 when Obama was itching to bomb Syria. The so-called line in the sand. A false flag, just like Iraq/WMD before it.

When is the last time you heard on the mainstream media that the 2013 gas attacks were actually launched by the rebels, per the UN investigation? Answer - you don't ever hear that because everyone is just itching for a war and looking for any excuse to start one.

I guess if you can hide behind the skirt of others you can sit behind your computer and demand a war. How about we send you off to Syria to get rid of Assad?

 

[jetsaholic]

Don't show this to chemmie- he knows what Syrians wants better then Syrians

I LOL'ed, true story.