2 for 1's

[Knight_Light]

A loss?

UCF went undefeated in 2018 and 2018 and earned the NYD6 slot.

Don't lose = NYD6

UCF doesn't need to "add a tough road loss/blowout" to earn the NYD6 slot.

Heck, Cinci just earned that slot by playing just 2 road games and ZERO P5 games.

Memphis got it by playing a joke non conf schedule.

Only thing 2 for 1's do is take away a home game revenue plus put the team at a disadvantage.

There is a reason why Tennessee is playing EIGHT home games this season. 8!! All 4 of their non conf games will be at home...as home games bring in millions and millions of $$ and usually more wins.

Everyone does it...but UCF should just throw away badly needed millions for zero reason?

As Marc Daniels hinted...TM, once he looks closer at the UCF Budget, will see a revenue source he could only dream of at Arkansas St (i.e. home game revenue).

 

[Gwoz]

Heck, Cinci just earned that slot by playing just 2 road games and ZERO P5 games.

There is a reason why Tennessee is playing EIGHT home games this season. 8!! All 4 of their non conf games will be at home...as home games bring in millions and millions of $$ and usually more wins.

Using 2020 season scheduling when there was almost no OOC games this year is not a reason to show OOC doesn't matter. Ohio State played in the championship with 6 game schedule, so really everyone should just start playing 6 games.

As for Tennessee they finished with 8 of 13 losing seasons since 2008, and a highlight of 9-4 back to back seasons. But think of all the money they got, playing 8 home games. They were able to fire multiple coaches and pay big money for Heupel.

With each year the team doesn't compete in a major bowl and have no marquee games the national spotlight fades away along with the money.

 

[Colonel Mortimer]

A loss?

UCF went undefeated in 2018 and 2018 and earned the NYD6 slot.

Don't lose = NYD6

UCF doesn't need to "add a tough road loss/blowout" to earn the NYD6 slot.

What the hell are you talking about? "doesn't need to add a tough road loss/blowout to earn the NYD6 slot." Not only did I say nothing like that, you've completely missed the point, which was we should have goals beyond just making the NY6 every year.

Just for arguments sake though.

2014: Boise State was G5 participant despite 2 losses. One of those being to top 25 Ole Miss, game played in Atlanta Georgia.
2015: Houston is the G5 participant despite a terrible loss to UCONN
2016: Western Michigan is the G5 participant going undefeated They are ranked 15th. Temple of the AAC is the next closest G5 team at 24th, with 3 losses. There's no question, a one-loss Temple team gets in over undefeated Western Michigan.
2017: UCF goes undefeated and is the G5 participant. Next closest non-AAC G5 team is Boise State at 25th with 3 losses. Say we had lost to Maryland, or played that Georgia Tech game and lost, both pretty bad teams, but still ran the table in the AAC, we still make the NY6 easily.
2018: UCF undefeated again, 8th in the nation, next closest non-AAC team was Fresno State at 21st with 2 losses. If UCF had lost to Pittsburgh, or played that UNC game and lost, both mediocre P5 teams, they still make the NY6 game easily.
2019: Memphis has 1 loss and is the G5 participant. This is the first year you can make the argument that if they'd scheduled a tough P5 team and lost it could've cost them, because their one loss was to Temple and Boise State also only had one loss, but ultimately the bigger issue is losing to Temple. Schedule a tough P5 team even if you lose, don't lose to Temple and they would've been in for sure.
2020: almost impossible to evaluate because so few OOC games were played period in the grand scheme of College Football. You had a team that made the playoff only playing 6 games, so trying to evaluate this as a normal year is pointless.

 

[OvilleNative]

we should have goals beyond just making the NY6 every year.

And that goal is P5 membership and every decision we make regarding schedule needs to be mindful of that.

 

[Ucfmikes]

So.., what’s the issue again about playing a tough OOC game on the road every once in awhile? I just don’t get it. The budget?

The arguments here are actual more rational than in the Dungeon. Over there, it’s all about the budget and the 4 team playoff. That’s very short sighted

 

[surfer98]

You have to schedule games that are winnable. Getting blown out does absolutely nothing for our brand, team morale, and fan support. Finding games that are winnable and providing our teams an even playing field should be the goal along with making money. I'm not saying that we win them all, but they have to be winnable. On a typical year, we cannot compete with Alabama in Tuscaloosa or Georgia in Athens. However, if we are in a NY6 game, that UCF team should be able to compete with the elite teams. 2020 UCF would have been beaten badly by Alabama or Georgia- no doubt so why schedule it? If our team is good and in the NY6 then I want to play the best. Accepting 2 for 1's means we accept inferiority to those schools. That's a horrible look for our brand. We need to find fun matchups that the fans can enjoy whether it's Pitt, Boise, BYU, or Marshall. Maybe we should look at playing regional schools like Georgia Southern and Georgia State to increase the brand in Georgia for recruiting and allow our growing Georgia Alumni the opportunity to watch UCF close to home. I don't care if they are a P5 team or not as long as it's a good matchup and if it makes sense for our fans, players etc.

 

[vroomba]

You have to schedule games that are winnable. Getting blown out does absolutely nothing for our brand, team morale, and fan support. Finding games that are winnable and providing our teams an even playing field should be the goal along with making money. I'm not saying that we win them all, but they have to be winnable. On a typical year, we cannot compete with Alabama in Tuscaloosa or Georgia in Athens. However, if we are in a NY6 game, that UCF team should be able to compete with the elite teams. 2020 UCF would have been beaten badly by Alabama or Georgia- no doubt so why schedule it? If our team is good and in the NY6 then I want to play the best. Accepting 2 for 1's means we accept inferiority to those schools. That's a horrible look for our brand. We need to find fun matchups that the fans can enjoy whether it's Pitt, Boise, BYU, or Marshall. Maybe we should look at playing regional schools like Georgia Southern and Georgia State to increase the brand in Georgia for recruiting and allow our growing Georgia Alumni the opportunity to watch UCF close to home. I don't care if they are a P5 team or not as long as it's a good matchup and if it makes sense for our fans, players etc.

Playing a top tier team would generate several times the amount of excitement and viewership than small regional teams. Even after getting the Marshall matchup, a lot of people I personally know were pretty disappointed to not be playing a bigger name. Really need to go after teams in the top half of their conferences, teams that regularly go 8-4/9-3. There are maybe 8 teams that are cream of the crop year in and out, that would be a "scary" matchup for us. Other than that teams #10 and below get upset regularly and are worth stretching ourselves for.

 

[Gwoz]

The attitude will continue to evolve in this if an NY6 invites alludes for a few more years.

Just seems like such a boring approach in life to avoid games that would be considered hard. Might as well just separate G5 and P5 teams.

 

[Endeavor.]

I mean you pretty much improved my argument that we should be taking tougher ooc games. You lose a tough OOC game, but win the AAC, 9 times out of 10 you're still going to make that NY6 game. In fact, in the NY6 era, there has only been one non-AAC team that's gone undefeated in the regular season and that was Western Michigan in 2016, and I can almost guarantee you a 1-loss UCF team where the loss is against a Top 25 P5 team is making it into the NY6 over any undefeated MAC team.

everyone is so comfortable assuming we're still going undefeated in conference, what has given that thought to people? whatever mental edge we had in that department was chipped away under Heupel. Losing an OOC game might not cost us but the 3+ conference losses we've had consecutive years combined with being out recruited by our competition in that time span doesn't really scream NY6 bound

 

[Gwoz]

everyone is so comfortable assuming we're still going undefeated in conference, what has given that thought to people? whatever mental edge we had in that department was chipped away under Heupel. Losing an OOC game might not cost us but the 3+ conference losses we've had consecutive years combined with being out recruited by our competition in that time span doesn't really scream NY6 bound

This exactly, in 2017 there was multiple moments that NY6 bowl would had evaporated in a blink. 2018, the conference has a whole was pretty weak. There is still this prevailing thought that NY6 bowls will just roll in every other year. Truth is, UCF may not play in one in the next 5 years. 1 Spot that theoretically is not guaranteed even if undefeated.

 

[Endeavor.]

A loss?

UCF went undefeated in 2018 and 2018 and earned the NYD6 slot.

Don't lose = NYD6

UCF doesn't need to "add a tough road loss/blowout" to earn the NYD6 slot.

Heck, Cinci just earned that slot by playing just 2 road games and ZERO P5 games.

Memphis got it by playing a joke non conf schedule.

Only thing 2 for 1's do is take away a home game revenue plus put the team at a disadvantage.

There is a reason why Tennessee is playing EIGHT home games this season. 8!! All 4 of their non conf games will be at home...as home games bring in millions and millions of $$ and usually more wins.

Everyone does it...but UCF should just throw away badly needed millions for zero reason?

As Marc Daniels hinted...TM, once he looks closer at the UCF Budget, will see a revenue source he could only dream of at Arkansas St (i.e. home game revenue).

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we've already found the formula that works for us, what we/administration are doing is creating a problem that doesn't exist and will probably make it more difficult for us in the end. UF will love nothing more than us to play Clemson the first week of the schedule, thats how you end a "national championship" run before it even starts. I promise when we were going undefeated and other AAC teams were getting blown in clearly unfavorable games no one was applauding their defeat. Those teams just fell right into the P5 trap and ruined their season.

The AAC doesn't claim to be on par with the Top 1% of CFB but we know we can compete with the mid-lower tier P5 teams and thats exactly what we've proven. Lets keep proving that we can bring it to UNC/Pitt. Those aren't exactly "gimme" games every year, they generate interest and we have gotten exposure from the media especially when we blew out Stanford in the first quarter.

The reason the SEC doesn't like to play tough OOC games is because they play tough in schedule on the road to the CFP, well its the same for us. We play the toughest conference in terms of NY6 eligible teams and theres no reason we should play an even tougher OOC game especially when it wont change a thing in terms of the playoffs, our goal is and will continue to be NY6, why make that more difficult for ourselves. Don't listen to the lies of these power programs, they wont respect a damn thing you do and you will not be put in a 4 team playoffs.

 

[Gwoz]

Boise St. has gone a different route. No FCS games, playing 2 P5 teams. Of course BYU pretty much every year, and some years the only G5 team they play OOC is an AAC team.

 

[Knight_Light]

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we've already found the formula that works for us, what we/administration are doing is creating a problem that doesn't exist and will probably make it more difficult for us in the end. UF will love nothing more than us to play Clemson the first week of the schedule, thats how you end a "national championship" run before it even starts. I promise when we were going undefeated and other AAC teams were getting blown in clearly unfavorable games no one was applauding their defeat. Those teams just fell right into the P5 trap and ruined their season.

The AAC doesn't claim to be on par with the Top 1% of CFB but we know we can compete with the mid-lower tier P5 teams and thats exactly what we've proven. Lets keep proving that we can bring it to UNC/Pitt. Those aren't exactly "gimme" games every year, they generate interest and we have gotten exposure from the media especially when we blew out Stanford in the first quarter.

The reason the SEC doesn't like to play tough OOC games is because they play tough in schedule on the road to the CFP, well its the same for us. We play the toughest conference in terms of NY6 eligible teams and theres no reason we should play an even tougher OOC game especially when it wont change a thing in terms of the playoffs, our goal is and will continue to be NY6, why make that more difficult for ourselves. Don't listen to the lies of these power programs, they wont respect a damn thing you do and you will not be put in a 4 team playoffs.

Ding!!

 

[Knight_Light]

Boise St. has gone a different route. No FCS games, playing 2 P5 teams. Of course BYU pretty much every year, and some years the only G5 team they play OOC is an AAC team.

Boise St hasn't been to a NYD6 Bowl since 2014...and their former coach 2lwanted DESPERATELY to get his team out of the MWC, which no one respects and I to AAC. (He gave up and jumped to Auburn).

 

[Gwoz]

Boise St hasn't been to a NYD6 Bowl since 2014...and their former coach 2lwanted DESPERATELY to get his team out of the MWC, which no one respects and I to AAC. (He gave up and jumped to Auburn).

So past dictates future, got it. But the fact is, if Boise St and UCF had the same exact record, they could most definitely get the nod for an NY6.

 

[Knight_Light]

So past dictates future, got it. But the fact is, if Boise St and UCF had the same exact record, they could most definitely get the nod for an NY6.

Wrong...as BSU is stuck in the lowly MWC while the AAC is now getting 3-4 teams ranked in the Top 25...as conf wins vs better teams matter.

 

[Colonel Mortimer]

Unbelievable defeatist attitude by some of you fans. Worried we're going to get blown out? Sports is about competition and testing yourself. Shocking that so many people want to take the easy road.

AAC champion has been the G5 representative in the NY6 5 out of 7 years since the NY6 debuted. Win the AAC and there's a very good chance you're going to be in the NY6 bowl game. So if that's the be all end all for some of you guys fine, winning the AAC will still get you there more times than not. Then there's even more reason to go out and challenge yourself in the OOC schedule. We won't get to where we want to be by just taking the easiest road. It won't happen.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Some of you guys have no confidence in our team. Scheduling weak and winning them all, isn’t going to fool ANYONE

If we get blown out 56-10 by Alabama, then we probably aren’t good enough and will get tripped up in other games. Lose by something like 41-28 and that ABSOLUTELY has credibility and will not hurt us

Our AD isn’t afraid, why should we be?

 

[Gwoz]

Wrong...as BSU is stuck in the lowly MWC while the AAC is now getting 3-4 teams ranked in the Top 25...as conf wins vs better teams matter.

Coastal Carolina finished 12th in final Playoff rankings and would have been the representative if Cincinnati did not go undefeated. A sunbelt team. Memphis just barely beat out Boise St. and Appalachian St. in 2019. The only one that really believes AAC is this stand alone conference is AAC. The more AAC loses in these NY6 games, the more they look like the BIG 12 and Playoff games.

 

[Colonel Mortimer]

Coastal Carolina finished 12th in final Playoff rankings and would have been the representative if Cincinnati did not go undefeated. A sunbelt team. Memphis just barely beat out Boise St. and Appalachian St. in 2019. The only one that really believes AAC is this stand alone conference is AAC. The more AAC loses in these NY6 games, the more they look like the BIG 12 and Playoff games.

Taking anything from this season and trying to prove that's how a future seasons are going to go is completely asinine. 3 of the 5 P5 conferences did not play out of conference. Pac-12 and Mountain West didn't start playing until November.

 

[Endeavor.]

Some of you guys have no confidence in our team. Scheduling weak and winning them all, isn’t going to fool ANYONE

If we get blown out 56-10 by Alabama, then we probably aren’t good enough and will get tripped up in other games. Lose by something like 41-28 and that ABSOLUTELY has credibility and will not hurt us

Our AD isn’t afraid, why should we be?

losing really has no credibility, and the moment of the game matters. Losing in week 2 is not as memorable as winning/losing in a high stakes bowl game. We have gained more credibility than every other G5 team going undefeated beating Auburn going undefeated again and playing LSU close than any OOC blowout Memphis or Cincy had.

Cincy almost beat Georgia in the NY6 and I guarantee that would have been the best marketing available for them. No one cared that it was a covid year and they played zero P5 teams, or majority of their conference games at home. they were ranked in the Top 10 based off of seven AAC games..and they are ranked 11th going into next year. No one respects or remembers their 42-0 loss to Ohio State from 2019.

 

[surfer98]

Playing a top tier team would generate several times the amount of excitement and viewership than small regional teams. Even after getting the Marshall matchup, a lot of people I personally know were pretty disappointed to not be playing a bigger name. Really need to go after teams in the top half of their conferences, teams that regularly go 8-4/9-3. There are maybe 8 teams that are cream of the crop year in and out, that would be a "scary" matchup for us. Other than that teams #10 and below get upset regularly and are worth stretching ourselves for.

You are using the USF formula for success. The thing is, schools like Alabama have every advantage possible- money, recruits, fan base, etc. Why give them the advantage of a 2 for 1 and put our players at a huge disadvantage of a near impossible road game? if we get to a NY6 bowl game, we will get the big game at a neutral field and have a genuine chance to beat them. Losing to Alabama doesn't give credibility to our program. However, beating them in a NY6 game does.

 

[Gwoz]

Seems to be those that push to avoid playing P5 teams have the same assumptions.

P5 team will blow out UCF if its a road game 100% of the time.

If UCF doesn't play P5 teams on the road, they will go undefeated and play in NY6 bowl and win.

 

[vroomba]

You are using the USF formula for success. The thing is, schools like Alabama have every advantage possible- money, recruits, fan base, etc. Why give them the advantage of a 2 for 1 and put our players at a huge disadvantage of a near impossible road game? if we get to a NY6 bowl game, we will get the big game at a neutral field and have a genuine chance to beat them. Losing to Alabama doesn't give credibility to our program. However, beating them in a NY6 game does.

I'm not saying go for the Bama's out there, we should try to schedule teams that are top half of their conferences. Or at least not bottom feeders. Obviously programs have swings and can be worse, but games like the UNC matchup, would have been perfect. Top 25 ACC team, but not Clemson.

 

[Colonel Mortimer]

Seems to be those that push to avoid playing P5 teams have the same assumptions.

P5 team will blow out UCF if its a road game 100% of the time.

If UCF doesn't play P5 teams on the road, they will go undefeated and play in NY6 bowl and win.

This is my takeaway as well.

"We're being disrespected, we shouldn't have to sully ourselves to playing 2 times on the road for a blue blood, we've proved we're good enough to play with the big boys already.

Also, we'd get destroyed if we played them on the road."

It doesn't make sense to me, let's prove how good we are on the road, at home in a bowl game wherever, that's the way you shut people up. Maybe it doesn't get the attention of the CFP, but it gets the attention of the college football world as a whole and that's what gets us to the next level.

 

[Endeavor.]

Seems to be those that push to avoid playing P5 teams have the same assumptions.

P5 team will blow out UCF if its a road game 100% of the time.

If UCF doesn't play P5 teams on the road, they will go undefeated and play in NY6 bowl and win.

my point is that both roads lead to the same outcome, NY6. Playing P5 in a 2 for 1 or not playing them will ultimately get you to the same place.. and its not the playoffs. So I say why take a more difficult route for the same results. its pointless.

 

[Endeavor.]

I'm not saying go for the Bama's out there, we should try to schedule teams that are top half of their conferences. Or at least not bottom feeders. Obviously programs have swings and can be worse, but games like the UNC matchup, would have been perfect. Top 25 ACC team, but not Clemson.

its ridiculous that these programs strong arm teams that literally are not in the same stratosphere as them. A team like Stanford will schedule a down UCF when they are Top 10 and its somehow respectable, but when Stanford is down then its not respectable for a Top 10 UCF to beat them? Its stupid to even entertain this system, best way to win is by not playing their game.

 

[goodknightfl]

BYU and Boise State will always be the main non P5 team every AAC team will have to compete against in order to be the best G6 team. They are also almost always ranked which puts them damn near on the P5 level.
Say what you want, but USF probably got the idea for 2 for 1s after seeing you guys go undefeated for dam near 2 years and not even sniff the playoffs. In order to be the best, you have to play the best.....and you need to play the best in order to accomplish those two feats. It baffles me how some of you are againsts 2 for 1s.

I personally am not against them, but would only do them with the top of the top programs. Oh state, Alabama, Olk, Georgia, Clemson, Mich, Penn State, and maybe an UF for FSU, and then, the one game has to be played in our stadium not citrus bowl.

 

[Colonel Mortimer]

We did that strategy in the past. You lose a home game for recruiting and money from not playing at home. Honestly it looks small time to go on the road with uneven scheduling. Let FAU and FIU work that strategy.

We can play with most teams on the road, but there is a home field advantage for a reason. We have ACC teams willing to do 1-1s.

Where have these ACC teams been the past 3 years?

 

[Gwoz]

Where have these ACC teams been the past 3 years?

Loading up there schedules, most are locked up for the next 6 years. Some are booked out till 2030 like VT. But when UCF gets that 1-1 in 2035, that 15 year wait will be so worth it.

 

[Colonel Mortimer]

its ridiculous that these programs strong arm teams that literally are not in the same stratosphere as them. A team like Stanford will schedule a down UCF when they are Top 10 and its somehow respectable, but when Stanford is down then its not respectable for a Top 10 UCF to beat them? Its stupid to even entertain this system, best way to win is by not playing their game.

Absolutely it is ridiculous, I don't think anyone is arguing that, I don't think even the blue bloods would argue that it's fair, but there is no way beyond the status of where we currently sit without playing their game. If all you think this program is capable of is competing for AAC championships every year, and appearing in the occasional NY6 bowl, then yes we should just keep scheduling the Boise's, San Diego State's, Southern Miss' and Marshalls of the world every year, but I honestly believe that this program has way more potential.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Not sure why there is an argument. Played in 3 NY6 bowls in the last 10 years. Those games get us way more exposure than being a money game like c-usa schools do

Why can’t we do both? Who doesn’t want to play good teams on the road and possibly beat them? We don’t want to play Notre Dame?

What would happen if we upset them and won a NY6? That wouldn’t be exciting? Wouldn’t a nice road game be a great selling point for recruits and fans? There’s no guarantee that we are going to a NY6, and with a weak schedule, you end up with nothing.

Why not just schedule FCS, UConn, FAU and FIU every year. It’s a hyperbole, but we make money, play 8 home games and likely win them all.

Ohhh.., but what happens if we don’t?

 

[SimpleJack53]

This is my takeaway as well.

"We're being disrespected, we shouldn't have to sully ourselves to playing 2 times on the road for a blue blood, we've proved we're good enough to play with the big boys already.

Also, we'd get destroyed if we played them on the road."

It doesn't make sense to me, let's prove how good we are on the road, at home in a bowl game wherever, that's the way you shut people up. Maybe it doesn't get the attention of the CFP, but it gets the attention of the college football world as a whole and that's what gets us to the next level.

For the record. I don't think we get blown out.

 

[surfer98]

Seems to be those that push to avoid playing P5 teams have the same assumptions.

P5 team will blow out UCF if its a road game 100% of the time.

If UCF doesn't play P5 teams on the road, they will go undefeated and play in NY6 bowl and win.

I don't believe many Power 5 teams will blow us out. I do believe if we schedule Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and a couple others we will lose by a lot -most years. I think the last two years under Heupel we would have gotten beaten pretty bad. 2017 and 2018 we could have competed with those teams and we got to play them in the NY6 bowls. That's one of the reasons I'm against 2 for 1's against those schools. I think most P5 schools we can evenly compete with but I'm still against 2 for 1's with them because it implies inferiority to them. I think we need to schedule as many P5 teams that will play us on an even series. If not, we don't need them to be successful. We can still look for fun matchups that will excite the fan base. I'm just as excited for Boise as I was for Pitt- no doubt. I was super excited for the UNC game this year and they are not an elite team. I think we need to reserve the Alabama and Clemson games for NY6 years until we get into a P5 conference.

 

[Lord Christopher]

We don't need more away games. We need more home games. Does anybody know if a study has been done evaluating the economic value of one home game. Not just for the university or athletic department but also for the local economy around UCF. It probably dwarfs the crumbs the big schools are willing to pay for us to do a 2-1. Also, I seriously doubt any P5 will pay us more than 700 or 800 thousand for that additional away game we would have to play.

 

[Knight_Light]

We don't need more away games. We need more home games. Does anybody know if a study has been done evaluating the economic value of one home game. Not just for the university or athletic department but also for the local economy around UCF. It probably dwarfs the crumbs the big schools are willing to pay for us to do a 2-1. Also, I seriously doubt any P5 will pay us more than 700 or 800 thousand for that additional away game we would have to play.

UCF Home Game revenue is now over $3 Million per game...hence why DW had budgeted basically 7 sold out home games in 2020...as those funds would have basically supported some of football and all Olympic Sports.

Same reason why Univ of Tennessee is hosting EIGHT home games this season (yes, DW's predecessor scheduled all 4 non-conf games as HOME GAMES).

Unlike P5 teams...UCF doesn't receive a $40 Million - now $60 Million check from their conference each season...as home game day revenue is sooooooooooooooo important to UCF's Athletic Dept.

 

[BlakNGoldAllDay]

When trying to build your brand you think nationally, not locally. The more people across the US that watch us and become fans the better. TBS, WGN abd WOR did wonders for Braves, Cubs and Mets. Gained fans all over the country just because their games were on tv. If all they cared about was local it wouldn’t be the same for them. Notre Dame as well. Putting there games on National TV is the best for them. Bigger than any conference. Just for eyes and gaining fans. We aren’t going to gain fans by playing against FAMU at home on ESPN +. There’s a reason we blow up being on ABC and Gameday. It’s the visibility. Worth more than a BS game people show up late and then leave early.

 

[Poolside Knight]

The attitude will continue to evolve in this if an NY6 invites alludes for a few more years.

Just seems like such a boring approach in life to avoid games that would be considered hard. Might as well just separate G5 and P5 teams.

it is such a minor league Triple A mindset. and despite most using the 'budget' as an excuse I am not buying it. There are some fans that want to feel better about the Program just playing the 110th ranked strength of schedule so they can troll on twitter.

fearing losing to Georgia by 28? well guess what then we don't deserve to play in the NY6 if it costs us but going to Athens and losing by 10 or less but still winning the AAC probably still gets to the same place and that sounds way more exciting than scheduling freaking Liberty

 

[Poolside Knight]

Why can’t we do both? Who doesn’t want to play good teams on the road and possibly beat them? We don’t want to play Notre Dame?

What would happen if we upset them and won a NY6? That wouldn’t be exciting? Wouldn’t a nice road game be a great selling point for recruits and fans? There’s no guarantee that we are going to a NY6, and with a weak schedule, you end up with nothing.

Why not just schedule FCS, UConn, FAU and FIU every year. It’s a hyperbole, but we make money, play 8 home games and likely win them all.

Ohhh.., but what happens if we don’t?

a perfect candidate for a 2-1 along with USC in my opinion. Both massive brands but most years are not in the Clemson, Bama, Ohio State talent level. And 2 places that fans would love to travel to in September when these OOC games usually happen.

 

[Ucfmikes]

it is such a minor league Triple A mindset. and despite most using the 'budget' as an excuse I am not buying it. There are some fans that want to feel better about the Program just playing the 110th ranked strength of schedule so they can troll on twitter.

fearing losing to Georgia by 28? well guess what then we don't deserve to play in the NY6 if it costs us but going to Athens and losing by 10 or less but still winning the AAC probably still gets to the same place and that sounds way more exciting than scheduling freaking Liberty

a perfect candidate for a 2-1 along with USC in my opinion. Both massive brands but most years are not in the Clemson, Bama, Ohio State talent level. And 2 places that fans would love to travel to in September when these OOC games usually happen.

Luckily, our AD is trying to schedule such games at the present time. Both he and Gus keep mentioning it in interviews. The only roadblock is that we have waited so long and many of the “perennial top 10 teams” have schedules booked out for years

Curious to see what fans are truly upset when the announcement is made. Doubt there will be many