And in any given year Oregon may or may not be better than a team like BYU or Boise who are on the UCF schedule. UCF should do 2-1 with teams that are practically guaranteed great every year. And that list of teams is about 5 and maybe 10 at a stretch. After that there is no real benefit over a 1-1 with a mid tier ACC or Boise or BYU.
Oregon has been ranked once in the 5 years since Frost left. Boise has owned them head to head and has been more consistently ranked than Oregon. Plus the added bonus of a 1-1 matchup for us.
Not sure what's so funny and how that's relevant to our current scheduling troubles. Our circumstances have changed.
LOL!!
2017???
Even in mid Nov as a Top 15 team...UCF game crowds looked like this (due to weak season tix base)
Also...donations are counted in another category...as most sideline season tix require a donation to purchase.
UCF season tix base has basically doubled vs what it was like in 2017...Premium Clubs have all been expanded or added...hence why the donations (minus 2020 pandemic year) have skyrocketed along with it.
I doubt many people didn’t know we played S Carolina. Do you remember it raining and half the stadium left and missed our comeback?
What are you talking about? I was at that game, every game I don't mention because they're not relevant to the discussion we're having I don't know about. Ok pal.
2 seasons ago the number was 2 mil. Only way that goes up is if we have less home games and season tickets still sell out.
List of teams that have been in the national championship game multiple times since 2010: Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, LSU, Auburn, Oregon.
What’s the list since 2015? Like I said they had an excellent run under Kelly and then Helfrich, but historically are not a blue blood program and slightly worse overall than a BYU (worse win %, less conference championships, national championships, bowl seasons, etc.)
Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State. So yeah Oregon is not one of the top 3 teams in the last 6 years.
You seem to want to have the conversation. Was just asking based on what. Since BYU leads Oregon historically nearly across the board in measures by which you would rank a football program. Maybe by some arbitrary timeframe metrics like top 25s since 2011 or national championship appearances since 2010 then Oregon gets the nod. But who are you actually scheduling? BYU was #11 last year and Oregon was 4-3. Unranked for the 4th time in 5 years. Which was kind of my point. I’m ok will sacrificing a home game in a 2-1 scenario for a team like Ohio State or something that is guaranteed to be a top flight ranked team year in and year out. Oregon, despite you best attempts to make it so, is not that team.
Arbitrary timeframe? BYU not being ranked for 9 years is some arbitrary timeframe I pulled out of my ass?
Yes you chose an arbitrary timeframe of 11 years. Not the more recent timeframe of 5 years which is more consistent with Oregon’s historical success. Not the most recent example of 2020 when BYU was among the elites. If UCF could guarantee they were scheduling a Chip Kelly Scott Frost Oregon team from 10 years ago then it might make sense. But as I said Oregon has only been ranked once since Frost left. Now 6 years ago.
Not sure if the irony is lost on you or not but it’s funny that you mention a top NFL QB for BYU last year and then in the next breath talk about Oregon in 2019 who had their QB drafted 6th. And we actually have a data point after Herbert left where Oregon was not a top 25 team. I’m not even saying I’d be mad if we scheduled Oregon for a 2-1 because it is a matchup we haven’t seen yet, I just don’t think long term we should be scheduling like that with teams that aren’t consistently great. And in my opinion Oregon is not that level. You are entitled to your own opinion.
And in the 11 years prior to that they played in 1. Like I said they have had one great year out of the past 5 with a 4th year starting QB who was drafted 6th overall. Last year they made a NY6 but were not even ranked and got blown out. Finished at 4-3. I’m not denying the success they had during the Chip Kelly Frost years. But it’s irrelevant for scheduling games set to take place in the future and not the early 2010s.
Whole lot of people saying I said things that I never said in this thread. In fact I've said quite the opposite of the above in multiple posts. It's the whole reason I'm advocating for 2 for 1s because obviously a different scheduling strategy needs to be tried.
And I don't really blame DW for what he did, claiming the national championship was terrific from a marketing standpoint, brought all kinds of eyeballs and money to this program, and he kinda had to back it up with an equally bold scheduling strategy. But the strategy ultimately led to us being basically blacklisted from getting any P5 home and homes. So I think his departure was actually good timing, because while the upcoming OOC slate looks bad, it's still salvageable, so it's important Mohajir comes in and takes a different tone, takes a different course when it comes to scheduling. It's perfect really, the outside world still sees us as the brash up and coming program that said FU to the P5 and claimed a national championship, but we've got an Athletic Director in there that no longer has to live up to the previous guys bold stances.
Mohajir's only had the job for a month. If we get to the start of the 2021 season and there still is no movement then maybe it's time to panic.
Agreed, but considering Notre Dame and Florida just scheduled a home and home for 2031 and 2032, and this is not at all uncommon for college football. If we're just scheduling for 2025 now we're already behind.
Has there been any talk of sponsored neutral site games at the new Raiders stadium in Vegas? Bc that venue is perfect to host a Labor Day matchup
Huh? kickoff games or week 2 you have like 6 months to prepare. Bowl games can be less than a month
