Boom Natural Immunity
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It's a self reported patient history. It's like "do you have a history of heart disease?". Do they only accept "yes" if you show up with medical chart in hand? Of course not. If you show up with something that looks like measles and you say "yea I had my MMR shots when I was a kid" do you think they report that you are unvaccinated against measles because you can't produce a shot record?
The UK probably has this all embedded in a national record and probably don't even need to ask.
Go read the top of my post. The assumption was that the entire population was exposed/infected so essentially those mean the same thing in my (exaggerated) example. The point is that one group is culled of all the weak individuals quickly, the other group is culled slowly. In this example, both groups end up with effectively the same % of deceased if you go through enough waves.
Read through my links. The DoD epi database has THE highest quality data out there. The findings are pretty clear.
Insurance companies have likely already started adjusting actuary models. Guys like you will get canned for pushing 1985 flu vaccine models
Do you disagree with anything the author of the medium blog pointed out? Sounds like there are two sets of numbers. The ones the hospital cook up and the ones the CDC filter later
Do you seriously believe we have a pandemic of the unvaccinated here in the 🇺🇸, but nowhere else in the world?
I get your purist old school view of vaccines, but you aren’t factoring in safety, quality, and durability. It’s now public knowledge the boosters give 1-2 months max protection to the most vulnerable , regardless of vaccination status. My only question is when, not if the actuarial models start changing. If you took the jab, not a bad time to consider life insurance needs and lock in
Boosted, let me get this right. Your claim is that today, 95% of hospital admissions FOR covid are unvaccinated. Yes?
I can tell you with reasonable confidence that’s either a .1% outlier or crummy data and am willing to educate you as to why. Can you commit to being open minded to the state level data AND solid antidotes like the FOIA letter I posted ?
We can go through the state level data if you like. The data scientist I follow are very open to engagement and civil discourse. MA, IL, and MN do have some level of accuracy and transparency and they all say the same thing. Pandemic of the unvaccinated is propaganda
There's no way that 95% of hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated. Even if it were possible, there would have to be context to that stat.
I really wish there were words in the English language to be able to accurately describe just how goddamn stupid you two inbred autistic idiots are for thinking you are smarter than the entire medical community.
BS I'm pretty sure is just a troll, it's obviously an act to make libertarians look even dumber than they actually are. I've had him on ignore ever since he tried to troll that 9mm is deadlier than 5.56 because that's what gave it away, no one is honestly that stupid and able to operate a keyboard.
Boston I'm on the fence about, he might legitimately be in 80-90 IQ range or he could just be trolling to be pretend to be this stupid to give antivaxers a bad name.
BS I'm pretty sure is just a troll, it's obviously an act to make libertarians look even dumber than they actually are. I've had him on ignore ever since he tried to troll that 9mm is deadlier than 5.56 because that's what gave it away, no one is honestly that stupid and able to operate a keyboard.
Boston I'm on the fence about, he might legitimately be in 80-90 IQ range or he could just be trolling to be pretend to be this stupid to give antivaxers a bad name.
He did. It's remarkable that you think that's funny. You 2 knotheads just can't understand what he was saying.
@Boston.Knight this you?
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As Maher said: 75% of deaths are over 65. 78% were obese. 98-99% were unvaccinated.
They tell us that, and yet still push for vaccines on young, healthy people? Masks on people that are at infinitesimal risk with no regard for the other damage being done? Still having outdoor mask mandates and social distancing regulations?
He uses the second point to show how stupid the first point is. If you know, you direct your focus. If you don't, you throw shit at the wall.
They tell us that, and yet still push for vaccines on young, healthy people? Masks on people that are at infinitesimal risk with no regard for the other damage being done? Still having outdoor mask mandates and social distancing regulations?
He uses the second point to show how stupid the first point is. If you know, you direct your focus. If you don't, you throw shit at the wall.
What I find is we have largely 3 groups...
Group 1: Vocal Majority - Certainty and Mandates For All
Group 2: Vocal Minority - Let Individual Doctors Decide, Not All Vaccines or Medicines Are the Same
Group 3: Silent Majority that believed #1 more initially, but now realize #2 had a point that the science hasn't changed.. we've just censored the experts, until more recently.
And that's what really is scaring more and more Americans...
People are actually defending oligarchy-statism over individual freedom, even when no data supports the populace benefit, and we've done everything to censor those who are arguing with that actual data! Even our own, top experts at the FDA!
That's everything wrong with this country right now!
Group 1: Vocal Majority - Certainty and Mandates For All
These people have claimed everything is known since 2021 Spring, that the Pandemic is of the unvaccinated, the unvaccinated are to blame for everything, Pharma must be listened to, has no ulterior motives in only providing mRNA over traditional vaccines, that only new drugs will work, and that there are no issues with the advisement out of the CDC or FDA and any changes have due to changes in the science. They also believe mandates are the only way to end the pandemic. Everything else must be outlawed, and no doctors should be allowed to do anything... even if legal, and commonly tried in 20%+ cases of other infections and disease, which is actually how we find out a lot and long-term cures in combination.
Group 2: Vocal Minority - Let Individual Doctors Decide, Not All Vaccines or Medicines Are the Same
The people who have repeatedly pointed out we're utterly ignorant of Coronaviruses (CoV) in general, and while we weren't against the FDA and EMA approving mRNA and even re-vax'ing the elderly.... we've been concerned the younger we go because - as even the now published FDA and EMA documentation shows, the risk was worth it the older we go, but... with more of their lifespan left, the more risk to them, especially has the FDA expert panels have been ignored or bypassed, and definitely as the FDA's own, top experts have repeated there was no data showing any benefit for the general population to be re-vaxed, and even openly complained about the lack of clinical data on children. The FDA has also backed off its claim Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (it is), and expert panels are taking real issue with some of the 'repurposed, but still under patents' drugs that failed against the flu, and are known to be less-than-safe. And the science hasn't changed, the politics has... on everything from masks to how effective natural immunity always has been.
Group 3: Silent Majority that believed #1 more initially, but now realize #2 had a point that the science hasn't changed.. we've just censored the experts, until more recently.
More and more people realize this is not only turning more into something like Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos, but the same experts that were right about them, have been right about SARS-CoV-2 and Pharma from the get-go ...
Follow the money.
We are becoming a complete oligarchy with expanded statism, and the proof is in that we refuse to manufacture a traditional vaccine for our kids, and are mandating things most western countries will not, because our country refuses to follow the science on.
Follow the money.
We are becoming a complete oligarchy with expanded statism, and the proof is in that we refuse to manufacture a traditional vaccine for our kids, and are mandating things most western countries will not, because our country refuses to follow the science on.
And that's what really is scaring more and more Americans...
People are actually defending oligarchy-statism over individual freedom, even when no data supports the populace benefit, and we've done everything to censor those who are arguing with that actual data! Even our own, top experts at the FDA!
That's everything wrong with this country right now!
Once again let me spell this out in a language that MAYBE A NARCISSIST CAN READ
YOU ARE AN ANTI-VAXER, ANTI-GOVERNMENT, ANTI-BIG PHARMA CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHO IS INDIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MURDERING COUNTLESS INNOCENT PEOPLE DUE TO SPREADING MISINFORMATION HERE AND THROUGHOUT SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU LACK SELF-AWARENESS AND HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE WRONG TIME AND TIME AGAIN REGARDING COVID
AND VACCINES. YOUR INCREDIBLE LACK OF SELF-AWARENESS AND EXTREME NARCISSIM DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO SEE THAT
ADDITIONALLY, THE ABOVE TRAITS HAVE MADE POSSIBLY A ONCE PROMISING CAREER INTO A COMPLETE FAILURE. YOU’RE INSECURE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE ARE NOT FOOLED BY YOU
YOU’RE AN UNHEALTHY 400lb MAN WITH A FAILED CAREER WHO
LIVES IN A SHACK IN RURAL ALABAMA. YOU ARE NOW AT BEST A PART-TIME I.T. SPECIALIST WHO PERFORMS ODD JOBS
WHEN YOU CAN GET ONE AND KEEP IT UNTIL THEY CAN’T STAND YOU.
READ THIS 10 TIMES!
MMR has been around decades! Stop using false equivalence! Furthermore...
Have you seen how much younger and how many additional shots they are giving kids in the UK, even though the US FDA says that's unwise, unhealthy and... yes, 'it can hurt?!'
There is no greater example of oligarchy-statism than what the UK NHS was already doing to vaccine schedules before SARS-CoV-2 ever came about.
This is our future, people not questioning government... not questioning the sheer financial incentives of now doing X+Y+Z, when X has already been established as 'the best balance of risk-reward.' Then we censor our own experts advising against it, threaten to yank their credentials if they don't confirm.
And you wonder why our top, long-standing FDA experts on Coronaviruses published outside the US?
Wake the **** up! We don't know shit about Coronaviruses in general, and mRNA was a chronic, clinical failure with the flu. The mRNA vectors were only allowed out of the risk-reward analysis of the high risk, not all children, and especially not over the objections of our top FDA experts barking for clinical trials.
Coronaviruses are not the flu, much less pneumonia or measles. There is no inflated risk with SARS versus 229E or OC43, when it comes to kids.
Yep, 98-99% of deaths are unvaccinated
Glad you agree. Back to the unemployment line after your daily circlejerk 😂😂😂
Once again let me spell this out in a language that MAYBE A NARCISSIST CAN READ
YOU ARE AN ANTI-VAXER, ANTI-GOVERNMENT, ANTI-BIG PHARMA CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHO IS INDIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MURDERING COUNTLESS INNOCENT PEOPLE DUE TO SPREADING MISINFORMATION HERE AND THROUGHOUT SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU LACK SELF-AWARENESS AND HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE WRONG TIME AND TIME AGAIN REGARDING COVID
AND VACCINES. YOUR INCREDIBLE LACK OF SELF-AWARENESS AND EXTREME NARCISSIM DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO SEE THAT
ADDITIONALLY, THE ABOVE TRAITS HAVE MADE POSSIBLY A ONCE PROMISING CAREER INTO A COMPLETE FAILURE. YOU’RE INSECURE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE ARE NOT FOOLED BY YOU
YOU’RE AN UNHEALTHY 400lb MAN WITH A FAILED CAREER WHO
LIVES IN A SHACK IN RURAL ALABAMA. YOU ARE NOW AT BEST A PART-TIME I.T. SPECIALIST WHO PERFORMS ODD JOBS
WHEN YOU CAN GET ONE AND KEEP IT UNTIL THEY CAN’T STAND YOU.
READ THIS 10 TIMES!
Remember that time that the CDC told us that naturally acquired immunity doesn't last?
Remember that time Maher said that our "experts" just keep getting stuff wrong?
Remember that time Johns Hopkins found out that naturally acquired lasts at least 20 months?
Remember that time the CDC told us to wear cloth masks and put up plexiglass to keep you safe?
Remember that time Duke University showed that cloth masks and plexiglass don't do anything?
Remember that time that the CDC said the vaccines stop the spread?
Remember that time the entire world recognized that these vaccines don't stop the spread?
And yet Mike can't help but kneel before his experts.
Remember that time Maher said that our "experts" just keep getting stuff wrong?
Remember that time Johns Hopkins found out that naturally acquired lasts at least 20 months?
Remember that time the CDC told us to wear cloth masks and put up plexiglass to keep you safe?
Remember that time Duke University showed that cloth masks and plexiglass don't do anything?
Remember that time that the CDC said the vaccines stop the spread?
Remember that time the entire world recognized that these vaccines don't stop the spread?
And yet Mike can't help but kneel before his experts.
Nurse out today. Natural immunity. Has had Covid twice. Getting tested today. Tell me about natural immunity imbeciles
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The hypocritical parade float will float himself right over to the nearest hospital and beg big Pharma to save his 400lb ass
$20 says urine. Keep me informed, I don't know how you read his walls of idiotically insane trolling, you must really hate yourself.
Gotta start renaming people ...
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- 85MightsKnowEverything
- Boosted87toICU
- KnightCrime2NoVax
- UCFMandates
SARS-CoV-2 - We won't know much until later this decade ...
I'm forking this, because this is really a thread that is going to last the 2020s. I started writing something here, in the 'Natural Immunity' thread, but ... this isn't even about 'Natural Immunity' any more. What I find is we have largely 3 groups... Group 1: Vocal Majority - Certainty...
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Gotta start renaming people ...
BTW, I forked a new thread because ... we honestly won't know things for years.
- 85MightsKnowEverything
- Boosted87toICU
- KnightCrime2NoVax
- UCFMandates
SARS-CoV-2 - We won't know much until later this decade ...
I'm forking this, because this is really a thread that is going to last the 2020s. I started writing something here, in the 'Natural Immunity' thread, but ... this isn't even about 'Natural Immunity' any more. What I find is we have largely 3 groups... Group 1: Vocal Majority - Certainty...
Once again let me spell this out in a language that MAYBE A NARCISSIST CAN READ
YOU ARE AN ANTI-VAXER, ANTI-GOVERNMENT, ANTI-BIG PHARMA CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHO IS INDIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MURDERING COUNTLESS INNOCENT PEOPLE DUE TO SPREADING MISINFORMATION HERE AND THROUGHOUT SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU LACK SELF-AWARENESS AND HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE WRONG TIME AND TIME AGAIN REGARDING COVID
AND VACCINES. YOUR INCREDIBLE LACK OF SELF-AWARENESS AND EXTREME NARCISSIM DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO SEE THAT
ADDITIONALLY, THE ABOVE TRAITS HAVE MADE POSSIBLY A ONCE PROMISING CAREER INTO A COMPLETE FAILURE. YOU’RE INSECURE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE ARE NOT FOOLED BY YOU
YOU’RE AN UNHEALTHY 400lb MAN WITH A FAILED CAREER WHO
LIVES IN A SHACK IN RURAL ALABAMA. YOU ARE NOW AT BEST A PART-TIME I.T. SPECIALIST WHO PERFORMS ODD JOBS
WHEN YOU CAN GET ONE AND KEEP IT UNTIL THEY CAN’T STAND YOU.
READ THIS 10 TIMES!
What we do know parade float is that COVID has more serious side effects than the vaccines in EVERY AGE GROUP. Repeating the same crap for 1 year plusGotta start renaming people ...
BTW, I forked a new thread because ... we honestly won't know things for years.
- 85MightsKnowEverything
- Boosted87toICU
- KnightCrime2NoVax
- UCFMandates
SARS-CoV-2 - We won't know much until later this decade ...
I'm forking this, because this is really a thread that is going to last the 2020s. I started writing something here, in the 'Natural Immunity' thread, but ... this isn't even about 'Natural Immunity' any more. What I find is we have largely 3 groups... Group 1: Vocal Majority - Certainty...
Have you heard of COVID FOG?
Calling bullshit on this. You're just making up fake anecdotal stories now.
It doesn't shock me that healthcare workers, recovered and even vaccinated+recovered, continue to be infected. But they defeat their infections fast, and usually don't progress to disease, because they do have IgA anti-bodies, unlike the merely vaccinated, but unrecovered.
Absolutely open minded and I'll be the first to tell you that you're going to have major problems with consistency and methodology from state to state, country to country, etc. It's very hard to compare this apples-to-apples.
Go to the HealthFirst facebook page and you can see the data for the biggest health care system in Brevard. They posted the data daily through large chunks of the Delta and Omicron surges. Their public data has consistently been 95%+ unvaxed for COVID positive inpatients.
The latest post (today at 9:00 am) is 99.3% unvaxed. They have 133 total inpatients so that's literally 1 vaccinated and 132 not. The image they shared today is posted below.
Now - I'm not here to defend their data. My understanding is that this is a real time snap-shot based on patients responding to vaccine status questions. I don't know what their classification rules are. I'd assume this is a very strict standard since it's at 99%. I know for employees, they're considered "unvaxxed" if they hit 6 months without a booster, so I'm assuming this would include 2 dose patients who haven't gotten a booster after 6 months.
Absolutely open minded and I'll be the first to tell you that you're going to have major problems with consistency and methodology from state to state, country to country, etc. It's very hard to compare this apples-to-apples.
Go to the HealthFirst facebook page and you can see the data for the biggest health care system in Brevard. They posted the data daily through large chunks of the Delta and Omicron surges. Their public data has consistently been 95%+ unvaxed for COVID positive inpatients.
The latest post (today at 9:00 am) is 99.3% unvaxed. They have 133 total inpatients so that's literally 1 vaccinated and 132 not. The image they shared today is posted below.
Now - I'm not here to defend their data. My understanding is that this is a real time snap-shot based on patients responding to vaccine status questions. I don't know what their classification rules are. I'd assume this is a very strict standard since it's at 99%. I know for employees, they're considered "unvaxxed" if they hit 6 months without a booster, so I'm assuming this would include 2 dose patients who haven't gotten a booster after 6 months.
Honest question for you boosted:
Do you really think you using facts will change Boston's mind? You can tell he is in a cult, right? He is balls deep in cuckoo conspiracy land and doesn't give a damn about the truth, so anything you post that is based in facts and reality will just automatically be dismissed if it doesn't fit with his preconceived world view.
I mean, we all know what the Water Cooler is.
But I don't come on here for a circle jerk of people who agree with me on everything. I come on here specifically to hear opinions of people who disagree with me. Personally, I think the name-calling that some of you guys do is what ruins the little value the board has.
Yep ... which is why UCFMandate doesn't understand what's been point from Day 1. In fact, even if she exists, he's asking/telling her things that have nothing to do with what we've said, much less asserted.
UCFMandate is still acting like if everyone is vaccinated, no one gets sick. That wasn't even true during Delta, or even Alpha/Wuhan-1 for that matter.
