Probably just 2.So you're telling me, if DG redshirts, we could literally still have him for 3 more seasons after the end of this season. '22, '23, and '24.
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Probably just 2.So you're telling me, if DG redshirts, we could literally still have him for 3 more seasons after the end of this season. '22, '23, and '24.
I don’t see him staying at UCF that long . Hopefully his shoulder recovery doesn’t effect his arm strength and he has a chance to to leave on good termsSo you're telling me, if DG redshirts, we could literally still have him for 3 more seasons after the end of this season. '22, '23, and '24.
in 2017 remember so many games where Snelson and Akins were open by a mile in the middle of the field . Milton didn’t have to always throw in tight windows in Frost’s offenseThe Milton fairy tale is nice, but in reality he fell on the right side of lucky bounces many times. Memphis couldn’t make a field goal late. Milton did nothing vs Auburn first half but defense kept us in. Vs the cows they went on a 27-7 run midway in the game and missed a wide open Wilcox for a TD that would have put them up 2 scores. During the 9 drive drought Milton threw 2 picks and 2 incompletions on 4th down for turnover on downs. Mike Hughes was the hero.
And Gabe Davis and Marlon Williams and Trequan Smith. The caliber of receiving options we had in 2017 was the best in UCF history.in 2017 remember so many games where Snelson and Akins were open by a mile in the middle of the field . Milton didn’t have to always throw in tight windows in Frost’s offense
yep Tre and Gabe got the Ds most attention and Snelson benefited in the slotAnd Gabe Davis and Marlon Williams and Trequan Smith. The caliber of receiving options we had in 2017 was the best in UCF history.
That’s because Heup left us so bare with the Defense. Thankfully Gus was able to pull in some talent in the portal. I’m interested to see TMB play with Big Kat for a whole game.Back in 2018 I never would have thought we'd be talking about Chinanders defense being great.
And Celiscar. I think the Montalvo (am I thinking of the right guy?) at DE move was an experiment we probably won't see again.That’s because Heup left us so bare with the Defense. Thankfully Gus was able to pull in some talent in the portal. I’m interested to see TMB play with Big Kat for a whole game.
Chins is probably the best coach on Nebraska’s staff , has that D playing pretty well and soundBack in 2018 I never would have thought we'd be talking about Chinanders defense being great.
Saw its a knee injury in a post about all the injured players. Couple others I remember are Bethune and Thornton with concussions.Didn’t Barber get hurt? I think that hurt defense if he did.
Thornton didn’t know where he was. He should sit out another week. Especially since it’s Navy.Saw its a knee injury in a post about all the injured players. Couple others I remember are Bethune and Thornton with concussions.
If you micro manage statistics and specific plays you can make any claim. Milton made far more plays than he missed. Everyone misses plays and every and everyone has their share of luck and bad luck. Milton was more dangerous flushed from the pocket or on the run than he was going through his progressions. His ability to keep his head and continue to look downfield and extending drives that were dead was where the difference was. This is what they talk about when they say the "it factor". Milton kept our drives alive and in the game.The Milton fairy tale is nice, but in reality he fell on the right side of lucky bounces many times. Memphis couldn’t make a field goal late. Milton did nothing vs Auburn first half but defense kept us in. Vs the cows they went on a 27-7 run midway in the game and missed a wide open Wilcox for a TD that would have put them up 2 scores. During the 9 drive drought Milton threw 2 picks and 2 incompletions on 4th down for turnover on downs. Mike Hughes was the hero.
I agree that DG looked really strong this year. Sad to see him get hurt, would have loved to see him against Cincy again - I think this was the year.DG was looking really good this year but he also needs players around him to make plays. The last pass against Louisville was a catchable ball not to mention the crazy amount of injuries at key positions during the game. Despite the injuries, If it was caught we would have probably won the game and DG wouldn't be hurt. I do think DG has gotten a bad rap for not winning the big game- I have felt that was a question mark also. But, I have changed my mind. I believe Milton and Bortles had better players around them that helped them win big games. Unfortunately, DG doesn't get the same support and talent from the current team.
it seems our fans want all our QBs to operate this way when it is not common for a reason. Yes it occasionally has Johnny Football and Milton 17-18 but the other side are many others that turn the ball over too much trying to play that wayIf you micro manage statistics and specific plays you can make any claim. Milton made far more plays than he missed. Everyone misses plays and every and everyone has their share of luck and bad luck. Milton was more dangerous flushed from the pocket or on the run than he was going through his progressions. His ability to keep his head and continue to look downfield and extending drives that were dead was where the difference was. This is what they talk about when they say the "it factor". Milton kept our drives alive and in the game.
Not what I said. There was an implication that Milton was better because he was surrounded by better talent and that he missed important plays. I don't think that was the case. Milton was and is special. However, for a program like UCF it is hard for us to compete recruiting size for your average 6-3 pocket QB. We have to generally find a diamond in the rough. That makes us gravitate to the the type of QB you describe.it seems our fans want all our QBs to operate this way when it is not common for a reason. Yes it occasionally has Johnny Football and Milton 17-18 but the other side are many others that turn the ball over too much trying to play that way
disagree that his surrounding talent not mattering, it wasn’t the only factor but on that 17 team the WRs/TEs Snelson is the only one that isn’t getting NFL playing time right now and he was damn good in the slot.Not what I said. There was an implication that Milton was better because he was surrounded by better talent and that he missed important plays. I don't think that was the case. Milton was and is special. However, for a program like UCF it is hard for us to compete recruiting size for your average 6-3 pocket QB. We have to generally find a diamond in the rough. That makes us gravitate to the the type of QB you describe.
And now Frost is paying the devil his due. lolScott frost made some deal with the devil for that undefeated season
That pretty much sums up life. You can work your butt off but you still need a few things to go your way. Unfortunately history does not give a damn about "what ifs".The Milton fairy tale is nice, but in reality he fell on the right side of lucky bounces many times. Memphis couldn’t make a field goal late. Milton did nothing vs Auburn first half but defense kept us in. Vs the cows they went on a 27-7 run midway in the game and missed a wide open Wilcox for a TD that would have put them up 2 scores. During the 9 drive drought Milton threw 2 picks and 2 incompletions on 4th down for turnover on downs. Mike Hughes was the hero.
KZ didn’t dress out even when he threw pre game. Hmm.Marc Daniels just said in pregame that Dillon Gabriel is dressed tonight and cleared to run around. But, Probably is not playing.
Typically 6 weeks to heal and then rehab. 8 weeks roughly.He looked good working out on that ESPN+ show even tho it was just showing him doing light weights. Think it's still to early for his return. What is a time frame on a broken clavicle?
🤔If Heupel had played KZ last season in November we wouldn't be in this situation now.
True. People love to Monday morning QB and argue about how things should have been done...but only after they go wrong.If KZ takes a hit last year and his career was over because of it, people in here would still throw shade at Heupel because of it.
my posts that he was having lingering issues during fall camp and missing practices wasn’t received very well on this boardKZ probably won’t play again. FSU won by 50 and he didn’t play at all.
i throw shade at hippo because he can’t recruit and he let that pos Golesh trash talk kz and other playersIf KZ takes a hit last year and his career was over because of it, people in here would still throw shade at Heupel because of it.
I throw shade at sloth because he could have at least let KZ take a snap at the end of the USF game last year but didn’t. That was just downright disrespectful to KZ and UCF fans.If KZ takes a hit last year and his career was over because of it, people in here would still throw shade at Heupel because of it.
You really think KZ wanted to go in for 1 snap? That’s embarrassing. You either are good for actual playing time or you aren’t. He’s not and that’s why he isn’t playing at FSU now.I throw shade at sloth because he could have at least let KZ take a snap at the end of the USF game last year but didn’t. That was just downright disrespectful to KZ and UCF fans.
Its not an actual snap for a play, it's a snap in honor. Kinda like how Baltimore did for Ray LewisYou really think KZ wanted to go in for 1 snap? That’s embarrassing. You either are good for actual playing time or you aren’t. He’s not and that’s why he isn’t playing at FSU now.
That was his last home game. Not last game. Everyone knew that. No one knew KZ was leaving. If he didn’t he could have done that here this year.Its not an actual snap for a play, it's a snap in honor. Kinda like how Baltimore did for Ray Lewis