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Gus Malzhan offensive genius? More like FRAUD.

go back to tampa!
Alumni is critical of poor coaching

“go back to Tampa”

Maybe you should be more accepting of contrarian opinions. I hope I’m wrong on Gus, genuinely, I do. But I haven’t like what’s I’ve seen from the so called offensive genius.
We should hold ourselves to high startards, or… low standards considering Navy was 0-3 and ranked near the bottom in almost every advanced metric. By low standards you’d still be expected to win that game…
 
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Do not try to understand The Gus.

Just as you are perplexed by the inexplicable loss to winless Navy, so too will you be overjoyed at beating Cincinnati.

Such is life with The Gus.
 
I'm not here to rag on yall, but if you cut him loose now, there is still time to right the ship before heading to the Big 12. If yall take Gus with you into realignment, it will only get worse from there.

Don't worry yourself with the, "wait until he gets his players" argument. Again, that'll only make things worse. Cut bait while you can and find a competent football coach. It's your only hope.

Good luck!
 
And how is Harsin doing for Auburn? ;)

Auburn won at LSU for the first time since 1999, on top of being ranked in top 20 at 4-1 with only loss to current #4 in country on the road by one score. I am guessing they are pretty content right now.
Yeah basically this. I didn't watch the game against Navy but from what I read it reminded me of one of the biggest reasons for that away loss streak. In 2017 we had one of the most talented teams in the country. Beat UGA and bama both when they were ranked #1. LSU had lost to Troy and Mississippi State. We were up 20-0 and 23-7. Our last two possessions that we scored on should have been TDs but Gus got cute around the end zone. We proceeded to not score another point and lost 27-23 (completely shut out in 2nd half).

You may read that and think, how can he be mad about a season where you beat two #1 ranked teams? That same team lost 4 games. We looked completely unprepared against Clemson in a week 2 game. They were good, but no better than bama/uga. We had hired a new offensive coordinator because this was one of the years where Gus had saved his job by blaming his OC. Early on we saw very little of the new offense. Once we blew that LSU game, offense looked completely different with tons of RPOs and plays we had not seen before. After we beat uga/bama, Gus got his huge contract before the SECCG and it is rumored that he took back over play calling. We go back to looking pedestrian on offense and lose the final 2 games. I'm sure you guys remember our final game from that season.

The next year we still had that same OC and we were ranked really high pre-season, but it looked like the same old Gus offense and we went 7-5. Lost to Mississippi State and an absolutely awful Tennessee team. Had Gus not gotten that new contract, he would have been fired. Gus AGAIN blamed his OC and "took back over playcalling" even though we all knew he was already heavily involved in the offense.

Sorry, this went much longer that I meant for it to. Started typing and then couldn't stop. TLDR - I have an unhealthy hatred for Gus and hate it for you guys that he sucks so bad.
 
I’m telling you. Bet the farm (or apartment or suburban tract house) on UCF against Cincinnati.
 
TLDR - I have an unhealthy hatred for Gus and hate it for you guys that he sucks so bad.
I just wanted a coach that won't leave UCF.
We're very loyal at UCF, just ask George O'Leary who was 57 when he came to us (Gus was 55).

This isn't Gus' team, and Heupel left the program in bad shape.
Then we had our entire offensive skill set get injuried, and along with yet more on a depleted defense.
 
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This is the kind of crap that had us ready to run him out of Auburn.
Because it worked before ... you're only looking at when things don't work.
Gus is extremely innovative ... and you're forgetting all the things he did do that worked.

Special teams is the only mark I have on him right now ... although our punter had issues before he was here.
 
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Because it worked before ... you're only looking at when things don't work.
Gus is extremely innovative ... and you're forgetting all the things he did do that worked.

Special teams is the only mark I have on him right now ... although our punter had issues before he was here.
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Bless yalls hearts.
 
Because it worked before ... you're only looking at when things don't work.
Gus is extremely innovative ... and you're forgetting all the things he did do that worked.

Special teams is the only mark I have on him right now ... although our punter had issues before he was here.
Man, Gus gave us all battered wife syndrome. Don't worry, this too shall pass.
 
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Take away the two possessions that we started inside navys 20 yard line which are like guaranteed points, and we scored SIXTEEN POINTS. SIXTEEN!!! Even JH wins that game. Gus is a fraud. Only putting together an offense that scores SIXTEEN points on there own against an academy school with all of our weapons? Get the fraud out of my University.
You are out of your mind. We couldn’t ask for a better leader for our program. Give him time to get his guys in and we’re going to be competing for championships in no time.
 
Yeah basically this. I didn't watch the game against Navy but from what I read it reminded me of one of the biggest reasons for that away loss streak. In 2017 we had one of the most talented teams in the country. Beat UGA and bama both when they were ranked #1. LSU had lost to Troy and Mississippi State. We were up 20-0 and 23-7. Our last two possessions that we scored on should have been TDs but Gus got cute around the end zone. We proceeded to not score another point and lost 27-23 (completely shut out in 2nd half).

You may read that and think, how can he be mad about a season where you beat two #1 ranked teams? That same team lost 4 games. We looked completely unprepared against Clemson in a week 2 game. They were good, but no better than bama/uga. We had hired a new offensive coordinator because this was one of the years where Gus had saved his job by blaming his OC. Early on we saw very little of the new offense. Once we blew that LSU game, offense looked completely different with tons of RPOs and plays we had not seen before. After we beat uga/bama, Gus got his huge contract before the SECCG and it is rumored that he took back over play calling. We go back to looking pedestrian on offense and lose the final 2 games. I'm sure you guys remember our final game from that season.

The next year we still had that same OC and we were ranked really high pre-season, but it looked like the same old Gus offense and we went 7-5. Lost to Mississippi State and an absolutely awful Tennessee team. Had Gus not gotten that new contract, he would have been fired. Gus AGAIN blamed his OC and "took back over playcalling" even though we all knew he was already heavily involved in the offense.

Sorry, this went much longer that I meant for it to. Started typing and then couldn't stop. TLDR - I have an unhealthy hatred for Gus and hate it for you guys that he sucks so bad.
That particular LSU game gustard RAN the SAME damn play every 1st down in the 2nd half... at least 8x. Every single time. LSU put 11 guys on the LOS after 4 and he still ran it. Gus is convinced his greatness allows him to score on every play, and if he doesn't, it's some execution breakdown that is out of his control.

I've been wanting him fired since the UGa game in 2016 where we lost 13-7. We held UGly to no offensive TDs (pick 6 was their TD) and 2 FGs... this clown couldn't get close enough for a single FG after our first TD. Some offensive genius... He caught lightning in a bottle with Cam in 2010, and with Nick Marshall in 2013 when most DCs had yet to catch onto his schtick. Your conference foes will catch on to his crap soon enough...
 
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That particular LSU game gustard RAN the SAME damn play every 1st down in the 2nd half... at least 8x. Every single time. LSU put 11 guys on the LOS after 4 and he still ran it. Gus is convinced his greatness allows him to score on every play, and if he doesn't, it's some execution breakdown that is out of his control.
I forgot about the same play thing. Worst part there was he defended it by saying that it was a play with multiple options. The problem was they had so many in the box that the read was always a give, so the same exact thing happened again and again. Woof.
 
I'm not here to rag on yall, but if you cut him loose now, there is still time to right the ship before heading to the Big 12. If yall take Gus with you into realignment, it will only get worse from there.

Don't worry yourself with the, "wait until he gets his players" argument. Again, that'll only make things worse. Cut bait while you can and find a competent football coach. It's your only hope.

Good luck!
It is highly unlikely that anything said here will result in getting Gus fired. That would be ridiculous. I sincerely hope that will never be the way our University makes important decisions.
 
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But, hey, we had a great week of practice!


Wait until he starts saying that stuff. It'll drive y'all crazy.
 
It is highly unlikely that anything said here will result in getting Gus fired. That would be ridiculous. I sincerely hope that will never be the way our University makes important decisions.
No what’s ridiculous is y’all hiring him to begin with. Firing him would be the least ridiculous thing you could do at this moment. He is horrible.
 
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It is highly unlikely that anything said here will result in getting Gus fired. That would be ridiculous. I sincerely hope that will never be the way our University makes important decisions.
And people say folks from AL are dumb. I was talking from a macro perspective. Your leadership needs to cut bait while they can. You all are headed down a dark and dangerous path if you don't.
 
But, hey, we had a great week of practice!
Wait until he starts saying that stuff. It'll drive y'all crazy.
Start counting how many times he says 'git 'er done...'... as in 'the offense just didn't git'er done...'

Offense... Defense... Special teams... whatever. Good luck to you and good riddance for us.
 
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I still think the biggest indictment on Gus from this weekend isn’t the play calling or the defense. It’s the horrific special teams display. To me, a team’s special teams consistency is the aspect that is most representative of the strength of a head coach. Hopefully this was just a blip on the radar.
 
Ever wonder why UCF hired a coach that a school paid $21M to go home? It goes downhill from here.
He was there 8 years. I don’t think this argument applies much to him. He was there a long time and a school with those kinds of expectations are just going to change/move on, hoping that the change brings them something “better”. They have the resources/ money to throw around.
Yeah basically this. I didn't watch the game against Navy but from what I read it reminded me of one of the biggest reasons for that away loss streak. In 2017 we had one of the most talented teams in the country. Beat UGA and bama both when they were ranked #1. LSU had lost to Troy and Mississippi State. We were up 20-0 and 23-7. Our last two possessions that we scored on should have been TDs but Gus got cute around the end zone. We proceeded to not score another point and lost 27-23 (completely shut out in 2nd half).

You may read that and think, how can he be mad about a season where you beat two #1 ranked teams? That same team lost 4 games. We looked completely unprepared against Clemson in a week 2 game. They were good, but no better than bama/uga. We had hired a new offensive coordinator because this was one of the years where Gus had saved his job by blaming his OC. Early on we saw very little of the new offense. Once we blew that LSU game, offense looked completely different with tons of RPOs and plays we had not seen before. After we beat uga/bama, Gus got his huge contract before the SECCG and it is rumored that he took back over play calling. We go back to looking pedestrian on offense and lose the final 2 games. I'm sure you guys remember our final game from that season.

The next year we still had that same OC and we were ranked really high pre-season, but it looked like the same old Gus offense and we went 7-5. Lost to Mississippi State and an absolutely awful Tennessee team. Had Gus not gotten that new contract, he would have been fired. Gus AGAIN blamed his OC and "took back over playcalling" even though we all knew he was already heavily involved in the offense.

Sorry, this went much longer that I meant for it to. Started typing and then couldn't stop. TLDR - I have an unhealthy hatred for Gus and hate it for you guys that he sucks so bad.
blah blah blah. If this logic was strictly followed every coach would get one chance to be a head coach and then be retired when they had a run perceived as bad. Nobody can beat the standard of being perfect every year.

Dabo wasn’t perfect before Sunshine and Watson. He looks like a pretty average coach this year. Maybe it’s time they move on?!?!?

Nick Saban was very average over 5 seasons at Sparty. That’s why he got sh-canned (or left before that happened). He was very good at LSU but not what he is at Bama, and even so this is the most extreme circumstance in college football.

Frosty was great for us but now he sucks at Nebraska. People have to accept that there isn’t some mythical “great” coach out there waiting to coach your team. You pick the best option when the time presents itself and we probably did. Only time will tell, though.
 
Man, most of these Auburn fans are like Norte Dame fans when we hired O'Leary (57), only web forums weren't as active and UCF wasn't a national brand back then.

Auburn fans, get it through your thick skull...

1) Gus (55) just got here, like Harsin in your own backyard... we could fling sh-- about Harsin too, but we don't, and not on your board

2) We already know Gus from his time at Tulsa when UCF and Tulsa accounted for the most championships in C-USA

3) UCF has a hardcore fanbase (built from our Division III-II-IA days), where the stadium will be 2/3rds full (and near capacity ticket sales wise), even when we're 0.500 (we were even close to full until later in our winless season)

4) UCF is known for loyalty, we don't fire coaches, we stick with them for years, even decades, like even Heupel as our program was going to crap last year

5) O'Leary came in and even lost every game (2004) and yo-yo'd odd-even years, and we stuck with him because UCF is a long term destination for older coaches

This isn't his team at all, he came in February, and we lost nearly all our offensive production in the Louisville game, along with the limited defensive experience we still had. I'm utterly happy he's taking chances in 2021 given the raw deal he was dealt in both limited scholarship players and a half-dozen key injuries.

He's developing the program for 2023+, not 2021, which was already an 8-4 team, at best, before the major injuries. That's hardly his fault.
 
Man, most of these Auburn fans are like Norte Dame fans when we hired O'Leary (57), only web forums weren't as active and UCF wasn't a national brand back then.

Auburn fans, get it through your thick skull...

1) Gus (55) just got here, like Harsin in your own backyard... we could fling sh-- about Harsin too, but we don't, and not on your board

2) We already know Gus from his time at Tulsa when UCF and Tulsa accounted for the most championships in C-USA

3) UCF has a hardcore fanbase (built from our Division III-II-IA days), where the stadium will be 2/3rds full (and near capacity ticket sales wise), even when we're 0.500 (we were even close to full until later in our winless season)

4) UCF is known for loyalty, we don't fire coaches, we stick with them for years, even decades, like even Heupel as our program was going to crap last year

5) O'Leary came in and even lost every game (2004) and yo-yo'd odd-even years, and we stuck with him because UCF is a long term destination for older coaches

This isn't his team at all, he came in February, and we lost nearly all our offensive production in the Louisville game, along with the limited defensive experience we still had. I'm utterly happy he's taking chances in 2021 given the raw deal he was dealt in both limited scholarship players and a half-dozen key injuries.

He's developing the program for 2023+, not 2021, which was already an 8-4 team, at best, before the major injuries. That's hardly his fault.
You can write war and peace all you want but Gus is still ain’t worth a shit. Also when did ucf become a national program. I must have missed the part where y’all joined a power five.
 
Terry and Danny White before him won’t have the same patience , can’t compare to O’Leary bc he was the de facto AD. not saying this year but I could see after Year 3 if the results are underwhelming
 
No what’s ridiculous is y’all hiring him to begin with. Firing him would be the least ridiculous thing you could do at this moment. He is horrible.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion including you. Perhaps wherever you may be employed, or had the misfortune to attend school, make hiring and firing decisions based on the rantings of those on a thread, or a tweet or a blog. But if our University were to hire or fire anyone based on the opinions of those opining on this thread would be the epitome of poor leadership and management. I don't think anyone should hold their breath thinking these opinions will get Gus or anyone else fired.
 
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