Jan 6th

[Crazyhole]

So you want to me to explain the obvious so you can respond with a right-wing nutjob blog about THE REAL PURPOSE of the Select Committee? Here, I'll save you a post:

From Townhall: "Have you heard the latest news from the third world? A political party won a recent election and immediately appointed a congressional committee to conspire with the new president to file criminal charges against the members of the previous administration.

While this unfortunate country spirals downward from historic levels of inflation, waves of criminal violence, out of control government spending and debt, floods of illegal migrants, media distortions and propaganda, and general societal decline, the new government is attempting to distract from real problems by pursuing political retribution against its opposition."

This is the kind of garbage we've all come to expect from the Trumpster crowd.

The Jan. 6 Committee's Real Goal

townhall.com

Still digging.

Yes, I'd like you to answer what legislative goal or purpose this will serve. What law is being proposed over this whole thing?

 

[Ucfmikes]

He just wanted to post a snarky picture and get approval from mikes because he has a crush on him.

Glad I’m in your head 24/7 crazy, pussyman. Don’t pull your uterus thinking about me too hard

 

[Knight In TN]

Glad I’m in your head 24/7 crazy, pussyman. Don’t pull your uterus thinking about me too hard

We’ve got an internet tough guy here! Everyone be afraid of him.

 

[Ucfmikes]

We’ve got an internet tough guy here! Everyone be afraid of him.

Wow. I thought that was what you were trying to be. How much rent do you need? 😂

 

[Knight In TN]

Wow. I thought that was what you were trying to be. How much rent do you need? 😂

The guy who follows around a certain poster here and copies and pastes his comment history as a massive text wall is accusing someone of obsessing? Lol

 

[DaShuckster]

The guy who follows around a certain poster here and copies and pastes his comment history as a massive text wall is accusing someone of obsessing? Lol

Ucfmikes is highlighting the actions of an obsessive poster. You know, the kind of poster who asks a moronic question and when it draws nothing but laughter, keeps doubling-down. It's only purpose is to hijack the thread. But I suppose given the topic, it's no wonder.

It's also no surprise that you are squarely in his corner.

 

[Crazyhole]

Ucfmikes is highlighting the actions of an obsessive poster. You know, the kind of poster who asks a moronic question and when it draws nothing but laughter, keeps doubling-down. It's only purpose is to hijack the thread. But I suppose given the topic, it's no wonder.

It's also no surprise that you are squarely in his corner.

I suppose you'll be fine with this one as well:

 

[DaShuckster]

The Blaze: "House Republicans have begun mapping aggressive probes of the Biden administration if they win back the majority"

Duh! OF COURSE that's the plan! It's all become a f*king game to the Republicans on Capitol Hill. Screw any notion of protecting our democracy. The original House proposal was for a 50-50 split, bipartisan committee to look at the January 6th riot. Sounds like the perfect approach, right?

HELL NO! If the House Republicans approved THAT, they'd lose their tried and true, "this is a Nancy Pelosi partisan witchhunt!" defense!!!

Better to try to politicize the whole thing as much as possible and engage in enough feet-dragging to hopefully get to the Midterm elections. And THEN, if history is any indication, win back the House and turn the tables by bringing up all kinds of democrat investigative "probes."

Funny how the same Republican leaders asking with innocent faces "why do we need a House investigation of the January 6th riot?" literally spent YEARS investigating Benghazi for crying out loud!!!

 

[Crazyhole]

Duh! OF COURSE that's the plan! It's all become a f*king game to the Republicans on Capitol Hill. Screw any notion of protecting our democracy. The original House proposal was for a 50-50 split, bipartisan committee to look at the January 6th riot. Sounds like the perfect approach, right?

HELL NO! If the House Republicans approved THAT, they'd lose their tried and true, "this is a Nancy Pelosi partisan witchhunt!" defense!!!

Better to try to politicize the whole thing as much as possible and engage in enough feet-dragging to hopefully get to the Midterm elections. And THEN, if history is any indication, win back the House and turn the tables by bringing up all kinds of democrat investigative "probes."

Funny how the same Republican leaders asking with innocent faces "why do we need a House investigation of the January 6th riot?" literally spent YEARS investigating Benghazi for crying out loud!!!

Yep. And the best part is that the Republicans don't even need a reason to investigate. They can just dig into whatever they want, just because.

 

[Ucfmikes]

The guy who follows around a certain poster here and copies and pastes his comment history as a massive text wall is accusing someone of obsessing? Lol

You’re such a little crybaby

 

[Ucfmikes]

Ucfmikes is highlighting the actions of an obsessive poster. You know, the kind of poster who asks a moronic question and when it draws nothing but laughter, keeps doubling-down. It's only purpose is to hijack the thread. But I suppose given the topic, it's no wonder.

It's also no surprise that you are squarely in his corner.

Exactly! 👏👍

 

[Knight In TN]

Exactly! 👏👍

Y’all should kiss.

 

[Crazyhole]

Y’all should kiss.

Careful there. Mike hasn't come out of the closet yet so don't pressure him. When he does, I'm sure shuckster will be the first to lay naked with him because woke.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Y’all should kiss.

Isn’t that what they do in Tennessee or is that just with brothers and sisters? 😂

 

[Ucfmikes]

Y’all should kiss.

Careful there. Mike hasn't come out of the closet yet so don't pressure him. When he does, I'm sure shuckster will be the first to lay naked with him because woke.

Look!! @Crazyhole has a new make believe friend

 

[Knight In TN]

Isn’t that what they do in Tennessee or is that just with brothers and sisters? 😂

Total burn. My feelings are hurt since you insulted a state that I used to live in.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Total burn. My feelings are hurt since you insulted a state that I used to live in.

 

[Crazyhole]

 

[Crazyhole]

Well, it served its purpose so no harm no foul, right?

 

[sk8knight]

We’re starting to see the leftist media pushing rhetoric that “Let’s Go Brandon” is a call to arms for supposed insurrectionists. With the administration failing so miserably on COVID, in foreign affairs, and so many domestic fronts, looks for insurrection fear to become the leading reason why people should only vote for Democrats in the midterms. A vote for anyone else is an existential threat to our Democracy.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Duh! OF COURSE that's the plan! It's all become a f*king game to the Republicans on Capitol Hill. Screw any notion of protecting our democracy. The original House proposal was for a 50-50 split, bipartisan committee to look at the January 6th riot. Sounds like the perfect approach, right?

HELL NO! If the House Republicans approved THAT, they'd lose their tried and true, "this is a Nancy Pelosi partisan witchhunt!" defense!!!

Better to try to politicize the whole thing as much as possible and engage in enough feet-dragging to hopefully get to the Midterm elections. And THEN, if history is any indication, win back the House and turn the tables by bringing up all kinds of democrat investigative "probes."

Funny how the same Republican leaders asking with innocent faces "why do we need a House investigation of the January 6th riot?" literally spent YEARS investigating Benghazi for crying out loud!!!

Benghazi was an utter failure of US foreign policy that resulted in the capture of a consulate and murder of an Ambassador, with an attempted cover up by the US State Department.

Jan 6 was a bunch of violent, deranged lunatics carrying out a violent riot and trespassing the Capitol. Most all of whom are facing jail time now.

hope that helps

 

[sk8knight]

Benghazi was an utter failure of US foreign policy that resulted in the capture of a consulate and murder of an Ambassador, with an attempted cover up by the US State Department.

Jan 6 was a bunch of violent, deranged lunatics carrying out a violent riot and trespassing the Capitol. Most all of whom are facing jail time now.

hope that helps

And to be fair, just as with all of the other riots of 2020, it was a very small percentage of the group that actually got violent. Not some grand coup attempt organized through and reaching to the highest levels of government as some are trying to make us believe.

 

[Cubs79]

And to be fair, just as with all of the other riots of 2020, it was a very small percentage of the group that actually got violent. Not some grand coup attempt organized through and reaching to the highest levels of government as some are trying to make us believe.

It seems pretty clear several people in high levels of government knew what was going to happen, and supported it.

 

[Cubs79]

Benghazi was an utter failure of US foreign policy that resulted in the capture of a consulate and murder of an Ambassador, with an attempted cover up by the US State Department.

Jan 6 was a bunch of violent, deranged lunatics carrying out a violent riot and trespassing the Capitol. Most all of whom are facing jail time now.

hope that helps

Benghazi was about hurting Hillary, Meadows (I think it was Meadows) admitted it on national tv. I don't have an issue with the investigation initially, but it certainly took a turn at some point.

 

[DaShuckster]

Jan 6 was a bunch of violent, deranged lunatics carrying out a violent riot and trespassing the Capitol. Most all of whom are facing jail time now.

It says a lot when one of this board's saner Right-wing posters continues to downplay the Capitol riot and its consequences.

A group of rioters -- at the urging of Trump -- left the rally, walked to the Capitol building, and stopped Congress from certifying the EC results. Everything about this situation stinks to high heaven, whether we're talking about it's planning in the WH and in Congress or the amount of time it took to call out the National Guard.

Was Benghazi a "failure of US foreign policy"? Of course it was. But however you want to describe them, the 'lunatics' who invaded the Capitol on January 6th were Trump's minions hellbent on 'stopping the steal', which they did, if only temporarily.

If you don't consider that a serious threat to our democracy, you need to take off your Trump-colored glasses.

 

[goodknightfl]

View embedded media

False story, there were no riots for them to infiltrate. only mostly peaceful bon fires.

 

[DaShuckster]

The 'peaceful' side of the insurrection that took place with Republican Congressmen was as disturbing as the 'deranged lunatics' one.

 

[sk8knight]

It seems pretty clear several people in high levels of government knew what was going to happen, and supported it.

Pretty clear if you want to believe in all the conspiracy stuff about Trump for years. The FBI certainly didn’t think it was pretty clear.

 

[DaShuckster]

Pretty clear if you want to believe in all the conspiracy stuff about Trump for years. The FBI certainly didn’t think it was pretty clear.

 

[Cubs79]

Pretty clear if you want to believe in all the conspiracy stuff about Trump for years. The FBI certainly didn’t think it was pretty clear.

The article you are referencing isnt an official statement by the FBI, and even says some of their sources arent even current FBI employees. The Jan 6th committee seems to have a lot of informration that seriously puts that article in doubt. We will see how it plays out, but a hell of a lot of coincidences for this to just be random violence on the capitol. Chuck Grassley was actually planning on certifying the results, because for some reason, they didnt expect Mike Pence to be there. Why would they not expect Mike Pence to be there? Couple Grassley making that statement along with Pence refusing to get in the limo they had sent to take him away from the capitol during the riots (we dont know why he refused, but speculation is he thought they were simply going to remove him from the proceedings), and it seems pretty damn strange that nobody knew anything and this was all just a random riot.

Why did Chuck Grassley expect Pence's absence from the Capitol on 6 January?

Was Pence worried he’d get “disappeared” on Insurrection Day? The ambiguity comes from the multiple descriptions of holding Pence within the confines of the Capitol. It looks like Grassley was expected to be part of a scheme on 1/5 to substitute for...

www.dailykos.com

Mike Pence refused to get in car amid 6 January riots fearing Secret Service ‘conspiracy’, reports claim

‘The he wanted was the people attacking the Capitol to see his 20-car motorcade fleeing’

news.yahoo.com

There is even a Trump tweet saying "Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.” That seems pretty clear they wanted Pence to overthrow the results, but we are supposed to believe all of this is just random happenings?

 

[UCFKnight85]

It says a lot when one of this board's saner Right-wing posters continues to downplay the Capitol riot and its consequences.

A group of rioters -- at the urging of Trump -- left the rally, walked to the Capitol building, and stopped Congress from certifying the EC results. Everything about this situation stinks to high heaven, whether we're talking about it's planning in the WH and in Congress or the amount of time it took to call out the National Guard.

Was Benghazi a "failure of US foreign policy"? Of course it was. But however you want to describe them, the 'lunatics' who invaded the Capitol on January 6th were Trump's minions hellbent on 'stopping the steal', which they did, if only temporarily.

If you don't consider that a serious threat to our democracy, you need to take off your Trump-colored glasses.

Your problem remains that you believe every stupidass thing that is spoon fed to you on MSNBC. When was our democracy "under serious threat"? Do you really believe that the entire structure of republicanism in the United States, and the very structure of government, was under any actual threat due to a bunch of deranged lunatics running around the Capitol and carrying out a violent riot?

In what scenario in your mind does the guy with the horns on his head lead to the total collapse of the Republic, and the very act of having a democratic vote in a republic system rendered obsolete? Take me from Point A to Point Z if it's so evident.

 

[Cubs79]

Your problem remains that you believe every stupidass thing that is spoon fed to you on MSNBC. When was our democracy "under serious threat"? Do you really believe that the entire structure of republicanism in the United States, and the very structure of government, was under any actual threat due to a bunch of deranged lunatics running around the Capitol and carrying out a violent riot?

In what scenario in your mind does the guy with the horns on his head lead to the total collapse of the Republic, and the very act of having a democratic vote in a republic system rendered obsolete? Take me from Point A to Point Z if it's so evident.

Whether you think it couldve worked or not isnt really the point. The point is whether they tried it or not. There have been many failed coups throughout history, that doesnt mean they arent serious situtations just because they didnt work. But from Jan 6th, to Trump trying to get the GA SOS to "find votes", etc etc, it seems pretty obvious none of what happened post election was normal. So the question is, why? Why wasnt anything normal if we are supposed to believe that Trump was just going to accept the loss and let that be that. And BTW, Trump still hasnt conceded. That is a formality, but still rather odd.

 

[DaShuckster]

Your problem remains that you believe every stupidass thing that is spoon fed to you on MSNBC. When was our democracy "under serious threat"?

OH, it's the tried-and-true, "Trump was just being Trump (i.e. being an idiot)" defense! You can't take anything he does or says seriously, right?

 

[UCFKnight85]

OH, it's the tried-and-true, "Trump was just being Trump (i.e. being an idiot)" defense! You can't take anything he does or says seriously, right?

Way to read 1/6 of what was written and only responding to that. You’re a joke.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Whether you think it couldve worked or not isnt really the point. The point is whether they tried it or not. There have been many failed coups throughout history, that doesnt mean they arent serious situtations just because they didnt work. But from Jan 6th, to Trump trying to get the GA SOS to "find votes", etc etc, it seems pretty obvious none of what happened post election was normal. So the question is, why? Why wasnt anything normal if we are supposed to believe that Trump was just going to accept the loss and let that be that. And BTW, Trump still hasnt conceded. That is a formality, but still rather odd.

Now we are talking 2 different things. And for the record I’ve already said that everything Trump did since Election Day repulsed me and I hated every day of it. I knew he would cost the GOP the Georgia seats and he did.

However there is the “Trump launching insane Hail Mary legal challenges to the election” and there is “deranged weirdos with horns on head rioting at the Capitol”. They’re both stupid but neither was an actual threat to “our democracy” since no one has ever laid out a reasonable scenario in which either methods result in the end of republicanism in the US. I asked @DaShuckster to lay it out, and he ran away.

 

[sk8knight]

Whether you think it couldve worked or not isnt really the point. The point is whether they tried it or not. There have been many failed coups throughout history, that doesnt mean they arent serious situtations just because they didnt work. But from Jan 6th, to Trump trying to get the GA SOS to "find votes", etc etc, it seems pretty obvious none of what happened post election was normal. So the question is, why? Why wasnt anything normal if we are supposed to believe that Trump was just going to accept the loss and let that be that. And BTW, Trump still hasnt conceded. That is a formality, but still rather odd.

You’re tying things together that aren’t actually related in order to form a crackpot theory of a big coup conspiracy. It’s worse than the Russia Hoax. Why are crazy conspiracy theories so mainstream on the left?

 

[DaShuckster]

Now we are talking 2 different things. And for the record I’ve already said that everything Trump did since Election Day repulsed me and I hated every day of it. I knew he would cost the GOP the Georgia seats and he did.

However there is the “Trump launching insane Hail Mary legal challenges to the election” and there is “deranged weirdos with horns on head rioting at the Capitol”. They’re both stupid but neither was an actual threat to “our democracy”

One of the core foundations of our democracy is the peaceful transition of power. Be it Republican or Democrat, the loser of the election graciously (sometimes through gritted teeth) congratulated the winner and we moved on --- until Trump.

What exactly IS "Hail Mary legal challenges" and "deranged weirdos rioting" if it's not a threat to our democracy? Again, it's nothing more than the "you can't take Trump's sh!t seriously" defense.

The reality is that the Republicans on Capital Hill were more than happy to be Trump's lackies if only VP Pence had 'done his patriotic duty' and thrown out a bunch of EC votes. And for what pray tell?

You said yourself that the whole thing was stupid. Hell, Trump is STILL telling any fool who will listen that he won but the election was stolen from him!!! You think that crap is GOOD for our country??? From now on, we'll have to hold our breath and deal with national elections like we were a g'damn third world country. But hey, there's nothing at all harmful about this stuff, right?*

 

[Cubs79]

You’re tying things together that aren’t actually related in order to form a crackpot theory of a big coup conspiracy. It’s worse than the Russia Hoax. Why are crazy conspiracy theories so mainstream on the left?

There is nothing crackpot about asking questions about the things I am bringing up. And they are very much related. The call to the Georgia SOS clearly showed Trump was trying to steal the election for himself. So then when Januarty 6th happened, I most certainly think it is more than reasonable to bring up that phone call, because it clearly shows Trump was trying to have the election handed to him. .

And Again, nothing that happened post election was normal. Why did Chuck Grassley hint that Pence wouldnt be presiding over the process? Why did Pence refuse to leave in the limo? Why was there a stop the steal rally in the first place, put on by the president, when every judicial avenue they took make it clear there is no evidence the election was stolen? Why did several members of congress tweet prior to Jan 6th? Boebert tweeted that it was 1776, tweeted out Pelosi's location during the riot. Blake Harp's fiance (Harp is Cawthorne's chief of staff), had a face book post on 1/3 about protecting her husband on January 6th talking about chaos. Why would she think there was going to be chaos on what is typically a pretty boring day? You dont think this is all at least worth asking serious questions about?

THe certification of the vote is usually just considered a formality, and barely newsworthy, but prior to this year congressmen and people connected to them were making it out to be some sort of major ordeal, and even talking about bloodshed. And there is plenty more than just what I am posting here. You dont think there are some serious questions here? You think it is normal for quite a few political, or politically connected people in DC to post about potential violence and revolution with regards to that date? Is it just a coincidence they posted about these things, then all of those people swarmed the capitol?

 

[Cubs79]

Now we are talking 2 different things. And for the record I’ve already said that everything Trump did since Election Day repulsed me and I hated every day of it. I knew he would cost the GOP the Georgia seats and he did.

However there is the “Trump launching insane Hail Mary legal challenges to the election” and there is “deranged weirdos with horns on head rioting at the Capitol”. They’re both stupid but neither was an actual threat to “our democracy” since no one has ever laid out a reasonable scenario in which either methods result in the end of republicanism in the US. I asked @DaShuckster to lay it out, and he ran away.

I am not talking about the legal challenges. Legal challenges are fine. The call to the SOS of Georgia was not done through legal channels though and nothing on Jan 6th had to do with legal challenges. But the call the the GA SOS clearly shows Trump was fine having the election handed to him illegally.

 

[Cubs79]

One of the core foundations of our democracy is the peaceful transition of power. Be it Republican or Democrat, the loser of the election graciously (sometimes through gritted teeth) congratulated the winner and we moved on --- until Trump.

What exactly IS "Hail Mary legal challenges" and "deranged weirdos rioting" if it's not a threat to our democracy? Again, it's nothing more than the "you can't take Trump's sh!t seriously" defense.

The reality is that the Republicans on Capital Hill were more than happy to be Trump's lackies if only VP Pence had 'done his patriotic duty' and thrown out a bunch of EC votes. And for what pray tell?

You said yourself that the whole thing was stupid. Hell, Trump is STILL telling any fool who will listen that he won but the election was stolen from him!!! You think that crap is GOOD for our country??? From now on, we'll have to hold our breath and deal with national elections like we were a g'damn third world country. But hey, there's nothing at all harmful about this stuff, right?*

Pence supposedly even talked to Dan Quayle, and Quayle convinced him what they were asking him to do with asinine. I am not a big fan of Pence in general, but he held his ground. What would have happened had he not? What if he did object to the vote? We have absolutely no idea how all of this would have played out had Pence succumbed to the pressure from Trump.