Lib media still in meltdown over no collusion report

[Husk in butt]

Lock her up!

 

[YourWifesBoyfriend]

If this is supposed to be a “gotcha” question, you are being incredibly naive. A simple Google search produces numerous examples of criminal-worthy behaviors.

Seriously, one has to wonder how people like you can continue to ignore the report’s findings. I guess Trump was right in assuming if his toadie AG issued a ‘summary’ prior to the reports release proclaiming “no harm, no foul,” his mindless minions would swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

you sure used a lot of words to say "i dont know"

Given the way that you type in a bit of a fantastical tone, almost like you took Harry Potter a little too seriously, I'm willing to bet you're a substitute English teacher.

 

[YourWifesBoyfriend]

Collusion isn’t even a legal ‘thing’ for crying out loud. It’s simply Trump’s nonsensical talking point. And the reality is that we’re so far beyond that sophomoric argument it’s crazy.

if that's the case, why were you so obsessed with it just a few weeks ago?

I realize Mueller's Report which is focusing on collusion with the Russians has not been released yet.

Good grief, the evidence of collusion with the Russians that already exists is staggering---and we haven't even gotten to Mueller's report for crying out loud.

Have you forgotten George Papadopoulos? He's the campaign rep who met with a Russian agent to obtain dirt on Hillary Clinton and then lied about it to the FBI. No collusion there, right?

How about Michael "Lock her up" Flynn? He contacted the Russians and told them to not worry about US sanctions by Obama because he'd 'take care' of the problem once Trump took office. No collusion there right?

Since we've already learned Mueller has evidence that Manafort was giving Russian agents GOP campaign polling data for crying out loud, the "no collusion" crowd is standing on awfully shaky ground. My gut tells me that Mueller's final report is going to be about as ugly as it gets.

your lack of self-awareness is frightening. please don't reproduce.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Holy mommy fcking shiite. This is the best thread ever for so many reasons.


1. We've been force fed the idea that trump colluded with the Russians for 2 years, but now all of a sudden collusion isnt a crime.

2. The investigation was supposed to determine whether Russia interfered with our election (duh, they did) and only one candidates campaign was investigated in earnest to determine whether there was collusion, but now that we know they didn't it amazingly isnt a crime anyway.

3. Now we are supposed to accept the idea that Trump's people are guilty of obstruction of justice in an investigation into something that isnt a crime.

Jesus almighty, this is just the best.

Spot on!

Couldn’t have said it better myself

It’s should be called the “change the narrative” thread

 

[Ucfmikes]

You can’t really be guilty of obstructing justice when there was no collusion, no malicious intent, Trump trying to protect his reputation, and nobody did what he asked.

It’s a bit of an embarrassment of not being “presidential.”

We already knew that.

 

[JAFFX2]

If you'd "read/watched people" who know the impeachment process the same way you did people who read the full Mueller Report, you'd know that the process begins with the House Judiciary Committee voting in favor of an 'inquiry of impeachment' that would be presented to the full House.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/30/nancy-pelosi-impeachment-2020-1295265

Pelosi holds firm as some fear impeachment window closing

Nancy Pelosi and her leadership team are nowhere close to launching impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump — with the chances diminishing as the 2020 election moves ever closer.

Democratic lawmakers and senior aides say Pelosi and her deputies are unmoved despite a groundswell of impeachment talk among rank-and-file members who are infuriated by Trump’s stonewalling of congressional investigations.

 

[Ucfmikes]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/30/nancy-pelosi-impeachment-2020-1295265

Pelosi holds firm as some fear impeachment window closing

Nancy Pelosi and her leadership team are nowhere close to launching impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump — with the chances diminishing as the 2020 election moves ever closer.

Democratic lawmakers and senior aides say Pelosi and her deputies are unmoved despite a groundswell of impeachment talk among rank-and-file members who are infuriated by Trump’s stonewalling of congressional investigations.

Well how about that Shookster

“Christ, do we have to educate these dimwits”

Or whatever he said

 

[Ucfmikes]

Christ, I've got to explain how impeachment works for some of you nitwits? Really???

First steps: Mueller provides Congress with the results of his investigation. The House Judiciary Committee reviews it and calls hearings to get more background information regarding the evidence of wrong-doing provided. Given all the crap Mueller detailed, this will likely take many months, if not a year or more.

Eventually, the Committee will vote on whether or not to move it to the full House. The President will remain innocent until proven guilty if/when 1) the House votes for impeachment and 2) the Senate finds him guilty.

Step 1. Stay up on current events.

Step 2. Battle your TDS

Step 3. When all else fails. Refer to the above

 

[DaShuckster]

You can’t really be guilty of obstructing justice when there was no collusion

Yes you can.

While there were numerous interactions between Russian agents and Team Trump, Mueller determined there was not enough evidence to prove there was a coordinated conspiracy between the two. But lying and attempting to prevent authorities from uncovering the truth is most definitely a crime.

One would think that the mere knowledge that Team Trump was meeting with Russian agents during the campaign and lying about it would be enough to appall and disgust most Americans. But not Ucfmikes who apparently considers Russia and their leader, Vladimir Putin, our friend.

and nobody did what he asked.

LOL What an awesome defense!!!

 

[Ucfmikes]

LOL What an awesome defense!!!

Nobody said it’s going to be a defense. It’s just going to make it even harder to convict him of anything or impeachment which isn’t happening

 

[Ucfmikes]

Yes you can.

While there were numerous interactions between Russian agents and Team Trump, Mueller determined there was not enough evidence to prove there was a coordinated conspiracy between the two. But lying and attempting to prevent authorities from uncovering the truth is most definitely a crime.

One would think that the mere knowledge that Team Trump was meeting with Russian agents during the campaign and lying about it would be enough to appall and disgust most Americans. But not Ucfmikes who apparently considers Russia and their leader, Vladimir Putin, our friend.

This is actually your lone wolf TDS delusional take

You’re trying to now deflect (as usual) to what “most Americans” think. The court of public opinion. Democrat, left wing opinion. There simply is not enough evidence. Where was he lying? He attempted to try to prevent his subordinates, but without malicious intent. There wasn’t an actual crime and he was trying to prevent his reputation

Obviously, you don’t know the legal system

Don’t make me give an example of a situation to make you look even more TDS foolish

 

[DaShuckster]

Nobody said it’s going to be a defense. It’s just going to make it even harder to convict him of anything or impeachment which isn’t happening

How about "nooooo collusion"??? Is it a defense? Do we not care that Team Trump consistently lied about their interactions with Russian agents and behind-the-scenes Russian business dealings from the get-go?

Was that okay since Russia and the US are such good friends?

 

[Ucfmikes]

We are not at war or even a Cold War with Russia

Just stop

Now you went from “enemy” to “Not our friend”

You just keep changing arguments

 

[DaShuckster]

You’re trying to now deflect (as usual) to what “most Americans” think.

You're joking, right? The majority of Americans know he's a serial liar. But some, like you, will vote for him again anyway.

Where was he lying?

Are you fu*king serious??!!?!?

You mean when he helped Don Jr. craft his original lie about the reasons behind Junior's meeting with the Russian Agent?

You mean his Team's lying about their Russian interactions that led to a number of them getting convicted of lying to the FBI and/or Congress?

You mean Trump's lying about having no business dealings with Russia while he was engaged with them in efforts to build a Russian Trump Tower?

You mean his lying about asking McGahn to fire Mueller?

You mean his lying about asking Comey to take it easy on his buddy, Michael Flynn?

Christ, these are just off the top of my head. Imagine what I could find if I looked it up.

 

[Ucfmikes]

You're joking, right? The majority of Americans know he's a serial liar. But some, like you, will vote for him again anyway.

That’s your TDS biased take. Majority?? Where’s that poll? You’re just spewing a bunch of BS

 

[Ucfmikes]

Are you fu*king serious??!!?!?

You mean when he helped Don Jr. craft his original lie about the reasons behind Junior's meeting with the Russian Agent?

You mean his Team's lying about their Russian interactions that led to a number of them getting convicted of lying to the FBI and/or Congress?

You mean Trump's lying about having no business dealings with Russia while he was engaged with them in efforts to build a Russian Trump Tower?

You mean his lying about asking McGahn to fire Mueller?

You mean his lying about asking Comey to take it easy on his buddy, Michael Flynn?

Christ, these are just off the top of my head. Imagine what I could find if I looked it up.

You’re having a complete meltdown

None of this has anything to do with convicting him of a crime in court or by any other means. Most of this has nothing to do with anything. It’s grasping at nothing solid. You’re constantly changing the argument

Stay focused!

Additionally, this is your take and most of it is not factual or not proven. Or it can’t be proven.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Shookster,

The more I converse with you, it appears that even though your knowledge seems great on the surface, your TDS continuously influences your arguments.

You change subjects, move the bar, get sidetracked, and don’t stick with actual facts and how they relate to that particular law as far as convicting someone of a crime.

You’ve mentioned impeachment and that isn’t happening.

You’ve mentioned collusion and there was none. Now that’s an unimportant, old argument. Wouldn’t have been a crime anyway.

You’ve mentioned conversations with Trump and his team and how that is factual or relates
to any crime committed. It doesn’t.

Now, you’re saying how Russia is our enemy which doesn’t relate to any argument here whatsoever.

I can go on and on

 

[Ucfmikes]

But many many, like you, will vote for him again anyway.

FIFY. You bet I will. I’ll certainly try to convince many others as well. I’ll happily attend the rallies as well

And get this. I don’t own a red hat

 

[fabknight]

We are not at war or even a Cold War with Russia

The Russians are absolutely our enemy. They actively try to subvert the US and our interests at every chance they get.

Putin was the head of the KGB during much of the Cold War. He remembers the glory days of Russia and if you think he wouldn't love to see the US reduced to nothing, you've got another thing coming.

You're obviously a young guy. Shookster, like me, grew up during the Cold War. One thing we learned, NEVER trust the Russians, EVER. EVER.

 

[DaShuckster]

The Russians are absolutely our enemy. They actively try to subvert the US and our interests at every chance they get.

I may not normally agree with them, but I respect conservative posters like fab and Crazyhole who aren’t afraid to call BS when somebody of their own political persuasion runs off the rails and starts spouting a bunch of silly nonsense.

Are we to believe it’s ‘just a coincidence’ that we and Russia are on the opposite sides when it comes to the conflict in Venezuela? Syria? Or our stance on Cuba?

Is it okay that Russian agents cyber-attacked our elections? Or used a deadly poison on former agents in England? Or invaded Crimea? What about the Ukraine?

These aren’t the Cold War days anymore. But to believe Russia is nothing more than a friendly rival with Putin running the show is naive at best.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I may not normally agree with them, but I respect conservative posters like fab and Crazyhole who aren’t afraid to call BS when somebody of their own political persuasion runs off the rails and starts spouting a bunch of silly nonsense.

Are we to believe it’s ‘just a coincidence’ that we and Russia are on the opposite sides when it comes to the conflict in Venezuela? Syria? Or our stance on Cuba?

Is it okay that Russian agents cyber-attacked our elections? Or used a deadly poison on former agents in England? Or invaded Crimea? What about the Ukraine?

These aren’t the Cold War days anymore. But to believe Russia is nothing more than a friendly rival with Putin running the show is naive at best.

Here's the thing Shookster - you can't say things like your first sentence when YOU are utterly incapable of taking up a position that differs from your team, admit when you're ass backwards wrong, or generally give an inch on anything.

Also, "we" are not entirely on different sides with Russia when it comes to VZ or Cuba. We have sitting members of Congress from the left that are openly fully on board with the Russian position that this is all our fault and we are to blame. Rep Omar, Anti-Semite-MN, just went on TV yesterday to basically deliver a message that Russian State TV would be proud of. The "Hands Off Venezuela" crowd is very vocal amongst liberals and basically aligns directly with Putin's, China's, and Cuba's stance on the situation.

 

[Husk in butt]

The Russians are absolutely our enemy. They actively try to subvert the US and our interests at every chance they get.

Putin was the head of the KGB during much of the Cold War. He remembers the glory days of Russia and if you think he wouldn't love to see the US reduced to nothing, you've got another thing coming.

You're obviously a young guy. Shookster, like me, grew up during the Cold War. One thing we learned, NEVER trust the Russians, EVER. EVER.

A long list of countries on that list especially when only two super powers exist. On the fact of just talking to Russia. Every campaign has all sorts of communications with other countries. Hillary definitely had communication with Russia too. Actually pretty normal. Now if you have some conspiracy with Russia that is another story.

 

[DaShuckster]

Here's the thing Shookster - you can't say things like your first sentence when YOU are utterly incapable of taking up a position that differs from your team, admit when you're ass backwards wrong, or generally give an inch on anything.

The ‘Modern Political Thought is Lazy’ thread is about this very issue. I give an example there of ‘taking a position that differs from my team.’ Truth is, your team used to be my team.

 

[UCFKnight85]

The ‘Modern Political Thought is Lazy’ thread is about this very issue. I give an example there of ‘taking a position that differs from my team.’ Truth is, your team used to be my team.

lol you were roasted in that thread too for the exact same thing. You created this thread wanting everyone to pat you on the ass for "reaching out" or whatever, but your post contained typical backhanded insults to conservatives that were already noted in that thread.

 

[UCFWayne]

If you'd "read/watched people" who know the impeachment process the same way you did people who read the full Mueller Report, you'd know that the process begins with the House Judiciary Committee voting in favor of an 'inquiry of impeachment' that would be presented to the full House.

As part of their own 'fact finding,' the House Judiciary questioned AG Barr earlier today.

i watched parts of him talking with feinstein. it was quite sad she doesnt know basic facts about the investigation when she literally has the report in front of her.

is drumpf finished this time?

 

[JAFFX2]

FIFY. You bet I will. I’ll certainly try to convince many others as well. I’ll happily attend the rallies as well

And get this. I don’t own a red hat

I did and will continue to attend his rallies.........the words of the song are so appropriate for the lefties. Pure genius, doesn't hurt that he brought Melania along

 

[UCFWayne]

Holy mommy fcking shiite. This is the best thread ever for so many reasons.


1. We've been force fed the idea that trump colluded with the Russians for 2 years, but now all of a sudden collusion isnt a crime.

2. The investigation was supposed to determine whether Russia interfered with our election (duh, they did) and only one candidates campaign was investigated in earnest to determine whether there was collusion, but now that we know they didn't it amazingly isnt a crime anyway.

3. Now we are supposed to accept the idea that Trump's people are guilty of obstruction of justice in an investigation into something that isnt a crime.

Jesus almighty, this is just the best.

i think they are going out of their way to now say its not a crime in case trump decides he wants to launch his own investigation against the hillary campaign.

 

[JAFFX2]

Compare this to any lefty rally, the enthusiasm and support for the POTUS is very telling......took a bunch of these, this one of my favorites......the only thing that would have been more exciting would have been playing zombie nation!

 

[UCFKnight85]

Anyone got a link to Democrats apologizing to the President for slandering, lying, and undermining his office for 2 years while pushing conspiracy and lies on a world stage?

Oh, no apologies exist?

 

[sk8knight]

i think they are going out of their way to now say its not a crime in case trump decides he wants to launch his own investigation against the hillary campaign.

It’s not just Hillary. Many of the Democratic candidates have issues with Russia, China, Ukraine, etc. Especially candidates that cozied up to the Green agenda. Russia has funneled 10s of millions of dollars into green groups targeted at attacking the US energy industry; a good deal of this money ended up in campaign donations and lobbies. We won’t even get started on the socialist candidates.

 

[UCFWayne]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/02/nancy-pelosi-william-barr-lied-to-congress-1298314

Pelosi: Barr committed a crime by lying to Congress

‘Nobody is above the law. Not the president of the United States, and not the attorney general.’


those are some big words right there.

 

[UCFKnight85]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/02/nancy-pelosi-william-barr-lied-to-congress-1298314

Pelosi: Barr committed a crime by lying to Congress

‘Nobody is above the law. Not the president of the United States, and not the attorney general.’


those are some big words right there.

lol these people

 

[Sir Galahad]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/02/nancy-pelosi-william-barr-lied-to-congress-1298314

Pelosi: Barr committed a crime by lying to Congress

‘Nobody is above the law. Not the president of the United States, and not the attorney general.’


those are some big words right there.

This really has nothing to do with Trump anymore, the Dems are scared to death of the investigation into what started the Mueller report.

There will be several very high profile people going to jail.

 

[Crazyhole]

This really has nothing to do with Trump anymore, the Dems are scared to death of the investigation into what stated the Mueller report.

There will be several very high profile people going to jail.

Lol, sure there will be. The only people that actually need to be held accountable are those that were in the FBI and the justice dept who asked for a FISA warrant on Trump based on what they knew to be bogus claims. Nobody from the Hillary or trump campaigns did anything that amounts to a crime in regards to collusion for the sake of influencing the election. To that end, how ridiculous is it that an investigation into a noncrime can lead to people going to prison for perjury. I'm glad Manafort got caught because of this and I hope Biden suffers the same fate, but the means that were used to get there are sketchy.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Democrats to Barr: We demand to know what's in the report! You misguided us!

Barr: The entire report was sent to you weeks ago and sitting on your desk

Democrats: COVER UP!!!

 

[DaShuckster]

how ridiculous is it that an investigation into a noncrime can lead to people going to prison for perjury.

Yeah, what's the big deal about lying? Trump does it daily. Just because Trump and his team lied to the FBI, to Congress, and to Mueller's team regarding a criminal investigation shouldn't be THAT big of a deal, right guys?

So what if the Trump campaign connected with Russian agents numerous times during the campaign, including before the release of the Russian-hacked DNC emails provided by Russian-backed Wikileaks. Mueller couldn't find enough evidence of a conspiracy to warrant a charge so no harm, no foul, right?

So the consensus here appears to be that we should turn our backs on the countless lies and attempts to thwart the investigation because it was all just a "non-crime" and Trump was just simply "defending his reputation."

At the same time keep reminding yourselves that Trump stated he believes Putin that his Russian agents DIDN'T engage in a cyber-attack on our elections. The clear-cut evidence provided by our intelligence agencies -- as well as the Mueller Report -- is garbage. These investigators have no clue what they were talking about regarding Russian interference, right guys?

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

 

[UCFWayne]

leftists the past few weeks...

 

[UCFKnight85]

Spying confirmed

 

[fried-chicken]

Spying confirmed

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Investigating criminals =/= spying

hope this helps.

 

[sk8knight]

Investigating criminals =/= spying

hope this helps.

Spying is spying. Whether it is a valid and/or legal action or not depends upon whether a valid legal predicate was established prior to the spying. In the case of the taps, they’d need a warrant. In the case of the undercover operation, they’d probably need some predicate reasonable suspicion. It’s a big deal when it has to do with a presidential candidate.