At this point if we hire Frost it's a bigger indictment of Terry than anything. He's been available the whole time and Terry also knew Gus was leaving but it took a week to hire a guy who was immediately available? I appreciate what Frost was able to do in 2017 and I think there are ways for him to return but we don't owe him the job based on one magical year.
New HC will be named SATURDAY Knight!!!
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No more fired coaches. Odom was terrible at Missouri. Frost was a disaster at NU. He will always hold a special memory with the 2017 team but its 2024 and were not in the American anymore with far better raw talent than most schools. I think that's chasing nostalgia.
I do like these up and coming young coaches and coordinators because they are having success in this current NCAA/NIL model. Sumrall, Chadwell, Will Stein, Charlie Weiss JR. Whoever it is ill be on board 100% just my two cents.
I do like these up and coming young coaches and coordinators because they are having success in this current NCAA/NIL model. Sumrall, Chadwell, Will Stein, Charlie Weiss JR. Whoever it is ill be on board 100% just my two cents.
And who said we owed him a job? Some people want to bring him back some people don't. Some good points made on both sides but not one said we owe him a job.
When Brian Kelly leaves He leaves. Left Central Michigan for Cincy and actually coached Cincy in the bowl game after taking the job 10 days earlier
Marc (paraphrasing) 10am, 3 or 4 names out there, including an outlier.
Next 24 to 36 hours. Mentions Osceola Rb T Swift signing. Odom, for Mizzou firing, went to arkansas then UNLV. greatest season in UNLV history. Play tonight in conf champ game. He has not spoken to Tmo, not from Tmo, his own insight, Odom fits (with more words positive). Can see appeal. Scott Frost, some stuff he can't share, but if SF made effort to come back. Marc does NOT know if he gets the job or not, but says SF presented a case. TMo is going thru the process.
Next 24 to 36 hours. Mentions Osceola Rb T Swift signing. Odom, for Mizzou firing, went to arkansas then UNLV. greatest season in UNLV history. Play tonight in conf champ game. He has not spoken to Tmo, not from Tmo, his own insight, Odom fits (with more words positive). Can see appeal. Scott Frost, some stuff he can't share, but if SF made effort to come back. Marc does NOT know if he gets the job or not, but says SF presented a case. TMo is going thru the process.
"Ur prognosis is better then MD and Bianchi"
I drink really good coffee. Thanks.
I drink really good coffee. Thanks.
Marc (paraphrasing), if UNLV wins tonight then they in the playoffs...thus will Odom be available? If loses can be on the plane tomorrow. The process is running down and coming to the end. Tmo has everything he needs to have a list of candidates.
Reminder, this is just Marc's opinion and he is not relaying anything from UCF.
Reminder, this is just Marc's opinion and he is not relaying anything from UCF.
LOL, I forgot to add, i heard the rumor at Tijuana Flats. 
Are they still open?LOL, I forgot to add, i heard the rumor at Tijuana Flats.
Dunno. I heard the closest one to my house in Merritt Island is closed maybe open. I'd never eat there again on purpose. Too many better options.
But, a plug for my local coffee roaster, you can get it online but I buy it in person, In Eau Gallie, Apocalypse coffee roasters. Only organic and specialty coffee roasted on sight. OMG, fresh bean makes a diff and this mom-n-pop roasters do it perfect. It's your typical old school 90s coffee shop. Hipsters, slang terms on the coffee bags, artwork all over. I haven't found a better coffee anywhere. Not a paid advertisement just a coffee snob fan.
I guess we gotta watch some football tonight and see our potential future coach. Who it is? dunno, but I'll go down as Odom as HC and SF as OC.
But, a plug for my local coffee roaster, you can get it online but I buy it in person, In Eau Gallie, Apocalypse coffee roasters. Only organic and specialty coffee roasted on sight. OMG, fresh bean makes a diff and this mom-n-pop roasters do it perfect. It's your typical old school 90s coffee shop. Hipsters, slang terms on the coffee bags, artwork all over. I haven't found a better coffee anywhere. Not a paid advertisement just a coffee snob fan.
I guess we gotta watch some football tonight and see our potential future coach. Who it is? dunno, but I'll go down as Odom as HC and SF as OC.
I also live in Merritt Island. Yes. Football tonight. I just saw that NFHS is carrying the Cocoa game. But I'm not going to pay for it.
Mizzou fans did not like Odom
He made a good OC hire that he won’t be able to keep. Give me a HC that can and has called played themselves
He made a good OC hire that he won’t be able to keep. Give me a HC that can and has called played themselves
Bc Frost wasn’t the first choice. Sumrall allegedly turned down the job. Also I have criticized Terry a lot here but the coaching market this cycle doesn’t have a lot of sure things. All 3 OCs mentioned have risks too.
Actually he’s an analyst and it’s pro not college football.
Wish Bianchi would move to California and start covering SD State! He’s never been a fan of UCF and his input is always biased.
You know if Frost was for real Terry would have some deep conversations with Sean Beckton about his time in Nebraska he would know.
Go Cocoa Tigers and Coach Schneider!
That could be a good combo but I've only seen Frost mentioned as a H/C option. However, as we've learned, who the hell knows since its Tik Tok running this "search". And what a head scratcher if Cartwright approves the hiring of Odom after he approved the firing of Odom when he was at Missouri....you can't make this shit up.
So the message is to hurry up and wait. Games tonight mean something. We will know by the end of the weekend if not sooner on how it plays out.
One possible 'outlier' that Marc mentioned that could be on the short list is Willie Simmons. RB coach at Duke. FIU looking to hire him. I don't know anything about him, but just saw his name pop up on a google search.
One possible 'outlier' that Marc mentioned that could be on the short list is Willie Simmons. RB coach at Duke. FIU looking to hire him. I don't know anything about him, but just saw his name pop up on a google search.
I forgot about that. Seems insane that Cartwright would want to hire Odom after signing off on firing him at Mizzou.
So he basically said nothing. I’m pretty sure the athletic department wouldn’t be real receptive to MD having knowledge about anything. he already tries to act like he’s gonna know it all, and to give him some information would subject the athletic department to allowing confidential information to be repeated.
I seriously doubt Odom puts himself in the position to be fired by the same guy twice. So, I bet he's not the one.
I agree - I think we continue to take a chance with an up and coming coach over a coach that left us for supposedly greener pastures. As far as I'm concerned, he's been out of the coaching game for a bit. Will he be able to coach in the new NIL environment? We saw that Gus struggled with that here. What about the player cap? We are about to see walk on positions go away and a hard cap on players. We aren't in the AAC any more, will he be able to handle a team in the Big12? When he was here the first time, there was not nearly as much pressure to win, since he left, the fanbase expects to see 8, 9, or 10+ win seasons. The rumors that he couldn't handle it up in Nebraska were that he turned to the bottle and drank heavily. Not that I believe the coach can't have a drink or two, but I don't want him getting shit faced when he also needs to be out recruiting after games/Fridays. Coaches need to be able to handle a loss and still be able to get out there and recruit. When he was here the first time, he could get gas or walk into the Wawa and get a coffee and nobody would recognize him. Now he would be the face of UCF again. People would recognize him. He would have that celebrity status here.
There would be pros and cons to hiring Frost. Pro - we like the type of offense he runs, its exciting. It's the type of offense the UCF fans enjoy. Heupel built around it because that was what Frost left him. That type of offense put UCF on the map. We saw that Frost has the ability to coach players up. We saw it with KZ after year 1, but that was all we had to go on while he was at UCF. Frost has a good eye for QB talent - Martinez, Thompson, Chubba, Smothers, Haarberg, and Torres all had talent and put up decent stats. When he was here, he gave up some of his salary to pay his coaching staff. Cons - Frost needs to find a coaching staff and it sounds like he burned a lot of bridges at Nebraska. Who would be working with him? Are they good? Does he have a great potential DC in his back pocket?
With an up and coming coach, we run the risk that they will bail for the Big10/SEC. If we were able to snag a good up and comer, if we were able to give them some great performance metrics like they did with Heupel, then its foreseeable they would stay longer. Heupel had incentives around selling tickets, actual attendance at games, viewership, total wins, wins against ranked opponents, weekly rankings/EOY ranking, Game Day/Big Noon Kickoff games, etc. We need to reward the entire coaching staff so they stay. Consistency is what brings out the best in players. If we are constantly changing the playbook every year, you won't see continued progress which is why I believe Gus failed. We started with DG/MK who were not dual threat QBs and Gus wanted them to change to his system and they left as a result. Gus got his own guy and had some success. This year our QB room flopped overall. Its tough when you're 4th string happened to be the best on the bench. You have to ask yourself, why did the coaches not see it? I was OK with Gus staying until the Utah game when I saw Rizk going back to the side line and Gus making a face and walking away. That pissed me off as much as Heupel's team fighting on the side line at Tulsa. Gus did not prepare the team at all to play that Utah game. Everyone looked like they skipped practice and film time to play video games for the week.
Most of this century, UCF has had run-based coaches who insisted on run-pass option QBs who ran at least as well as they passed. Even Frost's Oregon offense ran half the plays. This season, it hit rock bottom, with Hudson's talents wasted once conference season began because none of the 4 QBs were accurate enough to give him even 50-50 balls to fight for.
Nice! I know there are a handful of us Merritt Islanders on the board
We Mustangs are a proud bunch! Every time I see them mention the UNLV Coach Odom, I keep asking myself, "Is he related to Gerald Odom? Is that his son?" Gerry had one of the best records of HS coaches - something like 268-85-2. Merritt Island used to be one of the best football programs in the county, at least when I graduated 20+ years ago. Same with Kasper, Pribil, and Hodges. Pribil was a beast in the weight room!
Dad pissed off a lot of people. Lane just doesn’t care but others probably do
Man that was a fun period to watch. I wasn't a Yankees fan, but that was hilarious.
Every now and then when the coaching search drama gets to be too much just take another moment to relish in the fact that we dropped the Gus turd without a buyout. Zen.
Scott Frost Will Return to UCF as the Next Head Coach
Gus Malzhan has decided to leave UCF to take the offensive coordinator job at Florida State. It wasn’t a huge shock that he left, but him taking an offensive coordinator job at Florida State was a …
twsn.net
Funny, read to the bottom and you see the headline is wrong. Just said some talks happening.Scott Frost Will Return to UCF as the Next Head Coach
Gus Malzhan has decided to leave UCF to take the offensive coordinator job at Florida State. It wasn’t a huge shock that he left, but him taking an offensive coordinator job at Florida State was a …
Would have like a definite answer.
From a Mohajir standpoint who is on thin ice. Hiring Frost is the safer play. If it turns out bad, he just points that everyone wanted him to come back. That earns him more leanacy then the other options coming in and possibly failing.
