Real Leadership in times of Crisis
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Turns out all it took was for Trump to declare a national emergency. What took so long?
It to be a national emergency on why it took so long? We can't shut down everything for every little virus. Stop the beta male drama.
It turns out that the conditions that go into effect with a national emergency meant that Trump could instantly change the system that required each test to be pre-approved by a physician. Now we'll be able to look at drive-in testing centers like other countries.
As of January there was no test kit, the FDIC got approval for it done in record time. and the company has managed to put out over 1 mil of them in 6 or 8 weeks. People who think we somehow should have had a kit ready, for an virus that wasn't even known to exist are just idiots.
Drive in centers would have been a total waste of time a month ago. We didn't have anywhere near enough test kits.
Which reminds me are those damn migrants coming here again?
Kindly shut the fuk up if you obviously know nothing about the subject on which you are speaking. We don't need misinformation right now
Why spend precious time developing our own test and testing kit when one was already in production and being used worldwide?
Mexico is about to shut down the border since we are cluster fuking this scenario so badly
With Trump, with anything good that happens: "It's all about ME, baby!" and when it's bad, he responds with this kind of weasel sh*t:
Can't, it's a subscription based teaching video series for medical personnel, but here's an overview:
"In MedCram 27 [~ 1 minute] 9 days ago, Dr. Scheult says that one kind of test has a 30% false negative rate. CT has a 3% false negative rate. In MedCram 32 [55 seconds], he says that South Korea is using a type of test with a false negative rate under 5%. Do you think Korea executed these tests cheaply?"
Weird that you found something so newsworthy...in a subscription-based teaching video.
When all is said and done, some investigative journalist has an interesting story surrounding this decision. My gut tells me that the answer will be found in who owns stock in the American pharmaceutical company responsible for developing our test.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...test-to-detect-covid-19-infection/ar-BB119zAr
Mayo clinic steps up to the plate, developing their own test kit.
Mayo clinic steps up to the plate, developing their own test kit.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-deny-americans-coronavirus-drugs
China is threatening to shut down the sale of coronavirus treatment drugs. This is the kind of thing that leads to war.
China is threatening to shut down the sale of coronavirus treatment drugs. This is the kind of thing that leads to war.
We need to rethink our relationship with China.
I would guess this is just propaganda meant for their people. They have as much to lose as we do if they jeapordize our economy.
I am raising this post again since two different researchers on NPR this weekend said that the Chinese government cause tons of needless deaths in Wuhan by their actions to blockade the city. The mortality rate in the rest of China is nowhere near Wuhan.
But we should mimic China and stuff
They are still trying to toss weight around with trade negotiations. For all the Trump hate, any trade movement in our favor is something that didn't happen with previous administrations.
But wouldnt that mean that locking down Wuhan helped it not to spread as much to other areas? And by the way, I never said we should mimic China, I said we can't expect the same type of results if we are taking a completely different approach. Maybe, and hopefully we will have a better approach. For some reason you keep missing the point of my post, even though I have already told you this.
Both France and Spain essentially locked down their countries today as well, only medical facilities, grocery stores, and banks are allowed to be open in Spain, just an FYI.
China literally said nothing in or out. It’s now documented that MANY people died from basic lack of medicine due to this.
Let me be clear: fu*k China. I trust nothing they say, I take no lessons from anything they did, and they should answer for this since they threw the doctors in jail who raised the alarm bells.
They killed people in Wuhan to keep this under wraps. That’s now irrefutable.
People in Italy are dying because of basic lack of medicine and care as well, and that is the concern here as well. I heard last night, that our entire country only has 72,000 respirators. If this does spread to hundreds of thousands or even millions of people, we are going to have people die too because we dont have the supplies to handle it.
Again, nobody is defending China.
We have plenty of respirators for this. Stop talking about stuff that you have no idea what you’re talking about
I have about 3 friends who are respiratory therapists. We don’t live in the freaking Congo
You’re panicking. We aren’t going to wake up to 100,000 cases that need ventilators tomorrow
Oh, well if you have 3 friends who are respiratory therapists then I guess you are the expert and we are all good.
I am not panicking, am I also not taking it lightly. And yes, the concern that our healthcare system could overwhelmed is most certainly a concern. I will stick with the actual experts on this, and not someone who has 3 friends who are respiratory therapists.
Dude, you are dumb. I work in the medical field and my first profession was in that. Are you aware that countless thousands of functioning ventilators are in storage that can be easily mobilized? Duh
You’re a retired panic ball. Stop posting on things that you know nothing about
How about you just go **** yourself, and I will listen to the experts and not some nerd on a college sports message board, that sound good?
So.. what are your qualifications? You watch CNN
You tried the Martin/Zimmerman case and swung and missed
You post just to see yourself type
You didnt hit a nerve at all, I could care less about you, but if you want to insult people you can expect it right back, understand how that works?
Stupid ass
http://www.centerforhealthsecurity....9/200214-VentilatorAvailability-factsheet.pdf
The real answer is nobody knows, but it’s waaaaay more than we need
http://www.centerforhealthsecurity....9/200214-VentilatorAvailability-factsheet.pdf
The real answer is nobody knows, but it’s waaaaay more than we need
So.. China, a 3rd world country that’s been dealing with this for how long?? We have enough ventilators for them
Now, we can’t supply the USA which has such a minimal number, but will grow to 100,000 in a week
However, the need for ventilation services during a severe pandemic could quickly overwhelm these day-today operational capabilities. During a severe influenza pandemic, it has been projected that the demand for assisted ventilation in hospitals could increase by 25% or more.2
That is from your own link, so thanks for proving my point.
