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The Idiots of the Reopen: Florida MAGA Trash Government Welcomes 10k New Covid Cases in 1 Day.

Ucfmikes said:
Yep. I do agree. The media is definitely not helping. They played college football in 1918 with fans in the stands and there is a picture to prove it
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Football was postponed until October or November that year (for teams that played). 18 (of the 90) teams cancelled their season. Almost all teams that did play were limited to 3-4 games. But yes there were fans in the stands at that Georgia Tech game where the picture you reference was taken. And they wore masks. Now when you ask people to wear masks you are denying them liberty. Pussies.
 
Ucfmikes said:
Yep. They did do things better asshole. Why? They are actually compliant with what they are told. They had a strict lockdown, wear masks and didn’t have nationwide rioting. Yeah, NATIONWIDE RIOTING!

Americans need martial law to do all the above. Sometimes I wonder what world you live in. Get out of your house, open your eyes, and interact with other humans.

You’re living in your own world, right guys? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Your strict isolation has made you delusional. Right guys?? ;););)

See how annoying and obnoxious one can type, right guys?
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Americans are like spoiled teens.
 
DaShuckster said:
o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O You two are delusional.
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If you didn't obsess over the 24/7 negative news cycle and just minded your own businesses by wearing your mask and social distancing you'd feel the same way. Its 100% under your control if you get this virus or not. Why complain about what somebody else is doing?
 
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On March 18, Trump invoked the DPA to force companies to make masks.

Yeah, he was TOTALLY working against masks.
 
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Ucfmikes said:
The economy is saved thanks to Trump opening up. I’m working at full capacity and my stocks are at February levels. If we didn’t open up at all this would last the same amount of time, because this isn’t going away and half-ass lockdowns don’t work do the 1000th time. Deaths and cases increasing are due to an infinite multitude of reasons.
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Opening up (and going back to school is a local decision which King Trump has no control over.
 
 
Crazyhole said:
If you didn't obsess over the 24/7 negative news cycle and just minded your own businesses by wearing your mask and social distancing you'd feel the same way. Its 100% under your control if you get this virus or not. Why complain about what somebody else is doing?
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It's not 100% under your control. My sister had to quarantine her whole family because her kids babysitter was hanging out with someone who tested positive, so now they have to wait for her test to come back to see if they need to get tested. We complain about what other people are doing for the same reason we complain about drunk drivers. Even if you arent driving drunk, the person who is could potentially hurt you or someone else.
 
Crazyhole said:
FEMA was moving masks from certain places to other places. That isn't working against masks.
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Cant have this both ways. YOu cant have the federal government leaving it up to individuals, businesses, and states, then when those people do what they need to do, the federal government steps in and takes their masks. The lack of coordination at the federal level has been a huge issue with regards to this whole thing.
 
KNIGHTTIME^ said:
Gotcha
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I mean it’s still a decent comparison. The 1918 flu pandemic killed an estimated 600k Americans over 3 waves with the 2nd and 3rd waves more severe.

Covid19 is sitting at 140k now 4 months in. It will be easier to compare the impacts when it is over and we can look at excess deaths numbers.
 
Cubs79 said:
It's not 100% under your control. My sister had to quarantine her whole family because her kids babysitter was hanging out with someone who tested positive, so now they have to wait for her test to come back to see if they need to get tested. We complain about what other people are doing for the same reason we complain about drunk drivers. Even if you arent driving drunk, the person who is could potentially hurt you or someone else.
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The babysitter is an outsider. While your sister might need a babysitter, she voluntarily let that person into their lives. If she didn’t use her, would they be under quarantine?
 
Cubs79 said:
It's not 100% under your control. My sister had to quarantine her whole family because her kids babysitter was hanging out with someone who tested positive, so now they have to wait for her test to come back to see if they need to get tested. We complain about what other people are doing for the same reason we complain about drunk drivers. Even if you arent driving drunk, the person who is could potentially hurt you or someone else.
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It absolutely is 100% under your control. Don't leave your house, and if you do then wear a hazmat suit.
 
KnighttimeJoe said:
The babysitter is an outsider. While your sister might need a babysitter, she voluntarily let that person into their lives. If she didn’t use her, would they be under quarantine?
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Yeah, she and her husband both work, so it is either quit their jobs or have a babysitter.
 
Crazyhole said:
Explain that one to shuckster
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I was explaning it to you. This idea that we can have a functioning economy and society, but everyone is only responsible for their behavior is just flat out nonsense. If you want things to be open up, then people are going to be at risk, even if they are taking the proper precautions.
 
Cubs79 said:
I was explaning it to you. This idea that we can have a functioning economy and society, but everyone is only responsible for their behavior is just flat out nonsense. If you want things to be open up, then people are going to be at risk, even if they are taking the proper precautions.
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very well stated.
 
Cubs79 said:
I was explaning it to you. This idea that we can have a functioning economy and society, but everyone is only responsible for their behavior is just flat out nonsense. If you want things to be open up, then people are going to be at risk, even if they are taking the proper precautions.
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No, everybody is responsible for their own safety. Each person has the ability to completely protect themselves from Covid so asking or demanding action from others is selfish. Don't get mad at someone not wearing a mask because that doesn't have to affect you if you take responsibility for yourself.
 
Crazyhole said:
No, everybody is responsible for their own safety. Each person has the ability to completely protect themselves from Covid so asking or demanding action from others is selfish. Don't get mad at someone not wearing a mask because that doesn't have to affect you if you take responsibility for yourself.
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This argument is just asinine. Again, Ill take it back to my drunk driving example. By your logic, if you get hit by a drunk driver it is your fault for being on the road in the first place, since you are the only one responsible for your safety. Again, you dont live in reality, you just dont.
 
Cubs79 said:
This argument is just asinine. Again, Ill take it back to my drunk driving example. By your logic, if you get hit by a drunk driver it is your fault for being on the road in the first place, since you are the only one responsible for your safety. Again, you dont live in reality, you just dont.
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You really don't understand theoretical debates, do you?
 
In Chud Nation, being asked to wear a simple, f*king mask in public has become the ultimate insult. The internet is full of obnoxious, self-centered Karens like the youtube video below who make absolute fools of themselves with their idiotic rantings.

 
Cubs79 said:
I do, which is why i just blew your talking points out of the water.
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Not really. You pivoted to drunk drivers instead of addressing the issue. Is it true that a person has 100% ability to not catch covid no matter what anybody else does?
 
Crazyhole said:
Not really. You pivoted to drunk drivers instead of addressing the issue. Is it true that a person has 100% ability to not catch covid no matter what anybody else does?
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Is it true that someone that someone has 100% ability to not get hit by a drunk driver despite what anyone else does? Yes. It isnt a pivot, it is an anology showing how ridiculous your assertion is.

Yes, theoritically speaking everyone has the choice to stay inside. Except, if someone loses their job because they refuse to go to work, and then cant pay their rent or mortgage, buy food, etc etc, then they obviously cant really refuse to leave the house. This is why I am saying you dont live in reality. If everyone did their part it would at least reduce of the odds of someone catching it while at their job or just out and about in general.
 
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Crazyhole said:
Not really. You pivoted to drunk drivers instead of addressing the issue. Is it true that a person has 100% ability to not catch covid no matter what anybody else does?
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Not really 100%. If an infected person breaks into your home and spits in your face the risk isn’t 0%.
 
Cubs79 said:
Is it true that someone that someone has 100% ability to not get hit by a drunk driver despite what anyone else does? Yes. It isnt a pivot, it is an anology showing how ridiculous your assertion is.

Yes, theoritically speaking everyone has the choice to stay inside. Except, if someone loses their job because they refuse to go to work, and then cant pay their rent or mortgage, buy food, etc etc, then they obviously cant really refuse to leave the house. This is why I am saying you dont live in reality. If everyone did their part it would at least reduce of the odds of someone catching it while at their job or just out and about in general.
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It has nothing to do with living in reality. I get the fact that it isn't a reasonable expectation of people, but neither is the militant attitude of some that want to dictate the actions of other people for their own safety. Everyone controls their own safety by their own actions.
 
Crazyhole said:
It has nothing to do with living in reality. I get the fact that it isn't a reasonable expectation of people, but neither is the militant attitude of some that want to dictate the actions of other people for their own safety. Everyone controls their own safety by their own actions.
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If you acknowledge it isnt reasonable then what is the purpose of even arguing it?

ANd no, everyone does not control their own safety. I dont know where you have this idea that people can't hurt other people, but they most certainly can, and it happens everyday. This is no different. Person x not taking the proper precautions can potentially infect person Y, is who is taking the proper precautions. ANd what is so militant about asking people to wear masks? It is no more militant than asking people to wear pants.
 
Cubs79 said:
If you acknowledge it isnt reasonable then what is the purpose of even arguing it?

ANd no, everyone does not control their own safety. I dont know where you have this idea that people can't hurt other people, but they most certainly can, and it happens everyday. This is no different. Person x not taking the proper precautions can potentially infect person Y, is who is taking the proper precautions. ANd what is so militant about asking people to wear masks? It is no more militant than asking people to wear pants.
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Can person Y wear a hazmat suit when they go out? That is 100% protection from getting covid.

Somebody not wearing pants won't give you covid. Stay on topic.
 
Crazyhole said:
Can person Y wear a hazmat suit when they go out? That is 100% protection from getting covid.

Somebody not wearing pants won't give you covid. Stay on topic.
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Is wearing a hazmat suit practical? No, it isnt. You know your argument sucks when you have to reach to such ridiculous conclusions. I would have more respect for your argument honestly if you just said you didnt care and that people being able to go to Chili's is worth people dying.
 
Cubs79 said:
Is wearing a hazmat suit practical? No, it isnt. You know your argument sucks when you have to reach to such ridiculous conclusions. I would have more respect for your argument honestly if you just said you didnt care and that people being able to go to Chili's is worth people dying.
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You keep changing the subject and refuse to address the premise. Its not a matter of practicality, we all know that it isn't practical. Its a matter of whether its possible. If its possible to completely protect yourself from getting Covid, which it is, then expecting others to protect you loses a little bit of its value.
 
Crazyhole said:
You keep changing the subject and refuse to address the premise. Its not a matter of practicality, we all know that it isn't practical. Its a matter of whether its possible. If its possible to completely protect yourself from getting Covid, which it is, then expecting others to protect you loses a little bit of its value.
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I havent changed the subject once, I am using other examples to illustrate how ridiculous your whole argument is. Your argument which BTW, you already admitted wasnt practical so I dont even know why keep arguing for something you know isnt practical. I mean hell, its possible to go to space, so I guess by your logic if you dont go to space, where the virus doesnt exist, then its your fault if you catch it.

We have plenty of laws in place to protect the public in various areas, by your logic we shouldnt because your protection is your responsibility alone. Your argument is dumb, and you know its dumb, and have already admitted your argument isnt practicle. You are just arguing now for the sake of it.
 
Crazyhole said:
You keep changing the subject and refuse to address the premise. Its not a matter of practicality, we all know that it isn't practical. Its a matter of whether its possible. If its possible to completely protect yourself from getting Covid, which it is, then expecting others to protect you loses a little bit of its value.
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We have established it is not completely possible to protect yourself from getting Covid solely through your own actions. People can break into your house and be infected. What if you fall ill and require hospitalization. Not possible to protect yourself. You are relying on anyone you come in contact with to take proper precautions.
 
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