Care to present the data for us? Here, I’ll give you a head start.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883
Interesting take and good question. Why hasn't the black community improved on this issue after 50+ years?
He really fell into that one. Unbelievably dumb he even asked
Your link was limited to subscribers but the inherent inequities within our judicial system are pretty stark:
- Blacks represent 12% of the population but 33% of the sentenced prison population.
- Whites account for 64% of adults but 30% of prisoners.
- And while Hispanics represent 16% of the adult population, they account for 23% of inmates.
None of that accounts for the race’s actual participation in crimes. You’d have been better off citing comparative sentencing for races for similar crimes.
Here are some excerpts from the WSJ editorial:
“This charge of systemic police bias was wrong during the Obama years and remains so today. However sickening the video of Floyd’s arrest, it isn’t representative of the 375 million annual contacts that police officers have with civilians. A solid body of evidence finds no structural bias in the criminal-justice system with regard to arrests, prosecution or sentencing. Crime and suspect behavior, not race, determine most police actions.
In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population.
The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.
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The latest in a series of studies undercutting the claim of systemic police bias was published in August 2019 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The researchers found that the more frequently officers encounter violent suspects from any given racial group, the greater the chance that a member of that group will be fatally shot by a police officer. There is “no significant evidence of antiblack disparity in the likelihood of being fatally shot by police,” they concluded.
A 2015 Justice Department analysis of the Philadelphia Police Department found that white police officers were less likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot unarmed black suspects. Research by Harvard economist Roland G. Fryer Jr. also found no evidence of racial discrimination in shootings. Any evidence to the contrary fails to take into account crime rates and civilian behavior before and during interactions with police.
Not the same argument?
All of it is tied to the exact, same issue: This country's minority citizens are not treated by law enforcement and the judicial system with the same dignity and respect that its White citizens are.
Criminals make up 99.9% of our prison and jail population.
33% of those criminals are black
30% of those criminals are white
23% of those criminals are hispanic
Unless you're suggesting that white criminals disproportionately get away with it, i don't think the numbers help either side of the argument.
He is suggesting that and he’s also suggesting that blacks receive unfair sentences.
Are there numbers that show this is true among first time offenders? If so, then yes there is a systemic problem but that should be easy to address.
There are studies that show it both ways. It’s hard to wade through and you end up with a lot of confirmation bias in the people you talk to.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like it would probably be impossible to address whether black people are arrested equal to white people. Just too many variables involved. Addressing sentencing guidelines would be much easier, although it can never be perfect due to plea deals and whatnot.
Don't beat around the bush, Crazyhole! Spit it out!
Your criminal numbers by race make it crystal clear that Blacks and Hispanics are genetically coded to become criminals, right???
It certainly doesn't explain why Blacks are so pissed off right now, does it?
Don't beat around the bush, Crazyhole! Spit it out!
Your criminal numbers by race make it crystal clear that Blacks and Hispanics are genetically coded to become criminals, right???
It certainly doesn't explain why Blacks are so pissed off right now, does it?
Lol, overt racist crazy is saying openly racist things again? ShockedPikachu.jpg
Don't beat around the bush, Crazyhole! Spit it out!
Your criminal numbers by race make it crystal clear that Blacks and Hispanics are genetically coded to become criminals, right???
It certainly doesn't explain why Blacks are so pissed off right now, does it?
I tend to attribute things like this to culture. I'm more than happy to have that discussion if you're willing to be honest and not create strawman arguments that paint me as a racist.
Well you got me there. You clearly aren't nearly as racist as I am, you support the rape and sex-slave trade of young girls equally among all races.
Don't beat around the bush, Crazyhole! Spit it out!
Your criminal numbers by race make it crystal clear that Blacks and Hispanics are genetically coded to become criminals, right???
It certainly doesn't explain why Blacks are so pissed off right now, does it?
FYI: I used the numbers that YOU posted. Self-unaware much?
So, in the World According to Crazyhole, it stands to reason that a sizable percentage of all minorities are criminals.
What all this BS about equal justice under the law, right?
No, that's according to the numbers you provided.
I guess I could throw out the fact that white men are incarcerated at a higher rate than black women proportionately. Shouldn't they be equal as well? Your whole argument is based on the idea that all things are equal, right? White men- black men- white women- black women should all be experiencing the same level of incarceration since they break the law at the same rate.
Here's a crazy thought: Why not compare the incarceration rate of Black men to White men?
Because everyone should be treated equally, which means that white men should have the same incarceration rate as black women unless you're suggesting that a certain demographic is more likely to commit a criminal act.
WTF? Yeah, I'm 'daring' to suggest that the male "demographic" is more likely to commit a criminal act than the "female" demographic.
I'm guessing it has something to do with that testosterone business.
You’ve been on a roll lately.
Give credit where it's due. Some demographics are more likely to commit crimes than others, as Shuckster pointed out.
The Federal Bureau of Prison reports that 93.2% of the country's prison population is made up of men.
I'm no mathematician but I'm guessing that's statistically significant.
Seems like men are targeted at a disproportionate rate considering women make up 51% of the population.The Federal Bureau of Prison reports that 93.2% of the country's prison population is made up of men.
I'm no mathematician but I'm guessing that's statistically significant.
This is what people are protesting against, you shitwad. Our police are out of control. White, black, Hispanic, it doens't matter. These guys are ****nuts.
Then get your ass out there and protest. Get some free Nikes or a TV while you're at it. Bust up some gravestones and spray paint monuments. Demand that the system be dismantled. Point out how unarmed white people are killed more often than unarmed black people. Show some outrage and let your virtue be seen!
Yeah, except they aren't. They are protesting their dissatisfaction with life in general. Understandable, but completely misguided, which is why its inconsistent and unpredictable.
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