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Are you still pretending to be a libertarian or are you embracing that your a full fledged MAGA chud? Aren't you suposed to be anti-war? Assassinating Soleimani is a tragedy. It's a tragedy for our foreign policy and our ability to exit the Middle East, where we have been at war for far more than 75% of my life and I'm married with kids. This forever war bullshit in the Middle East is expensive and fruitless, surely a hardcore "libertarian" would agree.

So I can't be a libertarian and not consider the death of a terrorist leader a "tragedy"? Lol at your caricatures of everyone who doesn't fall 100% in line with your socialist ideology. Next thing you know, you'll say I can't be a libertarian because I'm opposed to abortion and am a Christian.
 
So I can't be a libertarian and not consider the death of a terrorist leader a "tragedy"? Lol at your caricatures of everyone who doesn't fall 100% in line with your socialist ideology. Next thing you know, you'll say I can't be a libertarian because I'm opposed to abortion and am a Christian.
Well if you're pro-war and anti-abortion what exactly makes you a libertarian? Let me guess, you like to smoke pot? Well la de da. You're a MAGA chud who smokes pot. Your ideas are not libertarian, you, like most people who claim to be libertarians in 2020, are a Trump boot licker who's afraid to be known as a boot licker.
 
Well if you're pro-war and anti-abortion what exactly makes you a libertarian? Let me guess, you like to smoke pot? Well la de da. You're a MAGA chud who smokes pot. Your ideas are not libertarian, you, like most people who claim to be libertarians in 2020, are a Trump boot licker who's afraid to be known as a boot licker.

Never smoked pot in my life and I am anti-war, which isn't hard to figure out based on my posts. Just because I'm objective about trump you assume that I'm conservative. It's amazing how blinded by socialist ideology you are. Are you ever ashamed of being led by a leash and can't question anything outside of the liberal group-think?
 
Well if you're pro-war and anti-abortion what exactly makes you a libertarian? Let me guess, you like to smoke pot? Well la de da. You're a MAGA chud who smokes pot. Your ideas are not libertarian, you, like most people who claim to be libertarians in 2020, are a Trump boot licker who's afraid to be known as a boot licker.

He's not even pro pot. He's as laughable a libertarian as wayne.
 
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Never smoked pot in my life and I am anti-war, which isn't hard to figure out based on my posts. Just because I'm objective about trump you assume that I'm conservative. It's amazing how blinded by socialist ideology you are. Are you ever ashamed of being led by a leash and can't question anything outside of the liberal group-think?

Don't let Shook Chicken give you shit. He's a lying hypocrite who swore he wouldn't vote for anyone who is a moderate or centrist, yet we all know he's going to be sucking down that Joe Biden propaganda here in a few months all over the board. It's what he does. He latches onto whatever the DNC says he should think at a given time then spams the board with it.

We had 2 years of the Russia nonsense from him, then impeachment. Now he's been told by DailyKos that a terrorist with American blood on his hands is a "tragedy", so he's here repeating that nonsense too. Like you said, he's simply an echo chamber of the worst kind.
 
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Don't let Shook Chicken give you shit. He's a lying hypocrite who swore he wouldn't vote for anyone who is a moderate or centrist, yet we all know he's going to be sucking down that Joe Biden propaganda here in a few months all over the board. It's what he does. He latches onto whatever the DNC says he should think at a given time then spams the board with it.

We had 2 years of the Russia nonsense from him, then impeachment. Now he's been told by DailyKos that a terrorist with American blood on his hands is a "tragedy", so he's here repeating that nonsense too. Like you said, he's simply an echo chamber of the worst kind.
I've already voted for a Republican over Trump in 2016 primary. I'll have a Biden 2020 t-shirt up in the MF if he's the nom and I'll donate the max amount. He's not my preference because he's not progressive enough but I'll put a golden retriever in when white house and have him make decisions by choosing between two dog bowls with a treat in each over Trump. At least then we'd have a 50% chance of our president doing the right thing.
 
Never smoked pot in my life and I am anti-war, which isn't hard to figure out based on my posts. Just because I'm objective about trump you assume that I'm conservative. It's amazing how blinded by socialist ideology you are. Are you ever ashamed of being led by a leash and can't question anything outside of the liberal group-think?
Just because I support a premptive assassination of a top Iranian general that might start another expensive war in the middle east when the country is already in the deepest debt its ever been does that mean I'm not a libertarian?

Yeah bud, it does.
 
I've already voted for a Republican over Trump in 2016 primary. I'll have a Biden 2020 t-shirt up in the MF if he's the nom and I'll donate the max amount. He's not my preference because he's not progressive enough but I'll put a golden retriever in when white house and have him make decisions by choosing between two dog bowls with a treat in each over Trump. At least then we'd have a 50% chance of our president doing the right thing.

Like I said, you're a lying hypocrite. When you were trying to act like Mr Progressive, you swore you wouldn't vote for anyone who was a moderate or centrist. Socialism or bust! Yet......here you are. Ready to pull the lever for another old white guy that you claim to hate so much.
 
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Like I said, you're a lying hypocrite. When you were trying to act like Mr Progressive, you swore you wouldn't vote for anyone who was a moderate or centrist. Socialism or bust! Yet......here you are. Ready to pull the lever for another old white guy that you claim to hate so much.
Fun fact: I used to troll you on the daily by pulling old comments of you just thrashing Trump. Like every single posts was sooooo good. You hated Trump almost as much as you hate liberals. It was crazy as someone who came to the board after the 2016 election I had no idea that such a colossal Trump nut hugger could have attacked him so strongly. You and Ninja were in agreement in every political thread, it was scary reading through them. Then you got your Right Wing Media marching orders and your own opinions melted away to be replaced by the thoughts of your conservative bloggers that 100% fully shape your identity. There is no real 85, you're a malleable ball of conservative media goo because youre not smart enough to have your own opinions hold up under any pressure at all. If the conservative media ever turned on Trump you'd be right back there beating the Marco Rubio drum like you were before. Because you're fully programmable and too dumb to do anything but use talking points that right wing nut job sites regurgitate into your mouth like a baby bird.

Me?

I've always hated Trump he's done me personal harm. I'm one of only a handful of Americans to have voted against his ass twice already. I don't expect that streak to change no matter how old the opponent is or what I read online. My values as a person are unwavering, something you're unlikely to understand based on your posting history.
 
Fun fact: I used to troll you on the daily by pulling old comments of you just thrashing Trump. Like every single posts was sooooo good. You hated Trump almost as much as you hate liberals. It was crazy as someone who came to the board after the 2016 election I had no idea that such a colossal Trump nut hugger could have attacked him so strongly. You and Ninja were in agreement in every political thread, it was scary reading through them. Then you got your Right Wing Media marching orders and your own opinions melted away to be replaced by the thoughts of your conservative bloggers that 100% fully shape your identity. There is no real 85, you're a malleable ball of conservative media goo because youre not smart enough to have your own opinions hold up under any pressure at all. If the conservative media ever turned on Trump you'd be right back there beating the Marco Rubio drum like you were before. Because you're fully programmable and too dumb to do anything but use talking points that right wing nut job sites regurgitate into your mouth like a baby bird.

Me?

I've always hated Trump he's done me personal harm. I'm one of only a handful of Americans to have voted against his ass twice already. I don't expect that streak to change no matter how old the opponent is or what I read online. My values as a person are unwavering, something you're unlikely to understand based on your posting history.

Hello 911? I'd like to report a murder.

$20 says you just completely triggered 85 and he goes off on another one of his steroid fueled hate rages and calls you every name under the sun.
 
Fun fact: I used to troll you on the daily by pulling old comments of you just thrashing Trump. Like every single posts was sooooo good. You hated Trump almost as much as you hate liberals. It was crazy as someone who came to the board after the 2016 election I had no idea that such a colossal Trump nut hugger could have attacked him so strongly. You and Ninja were in agreement in every political thread, it was scary reading through them. Then you got your Right Wing Media marching orders and your own opinions melted away to be replaced by the thoughts of your conservative bloggers that 100% fully shape your identity. There is no real 85, you're a malleable ball of conservative media goo because youre not smart enough to have your own opinions hold up under any pressure at all. If the conservative media ever turned on Trump you'd be right back there beating the Marco Rubio drum like you were before. Because you're fully programmable and too dumb to do anything but use talking points that right wing nut job sites regurgitate into your mouth like a baby bird.

Me?

I've always hated Trump he's done me personal harm. I'm one of only a handful of Americans to have voted against his ass twice already. I don't expect that streak to change no matter how old the opponent is or what I read online. My values as a person are unwavering, something you're unlikely to understand based on your posting history.

This was before my time on here, but is this seriously true? 85 went from a Trump hater to just a flat out Trump ass kisser?
 
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This was before my time on here, but is this seriously true? 85 went from a Trump hater to just a flat out Trump ass kisser?

I don't remember exactly how vocal he was but I seem to recall he and Bob being pretty anti Trump. I'm clearly speaking for him here but my feeling is that he's less pro trump and more anti everything he sees as the leftist movement. This forces him to defend Trump or anyone in his place because the alternative is so much more sinister and dangerous.

I feel like sk8 is another one that might be in that boat. Man-to-man if you're having a beer with them at a bar I'm sure there is plenty that they would change about Trump if they could. But if they don't back Trump they see a world with Bernie Sanders as President and you surely can see how that would be a non-starter right? The question to be asked is how do you keep Trump in check without throwing away elections.
 
This was before my time on here, but is this seriously true? 85 went from a Trump hater to just a flat out Trump ass kisser?

Direct quote, 85 said Trump was suffering from dementia and was mentally ill. Search his old quotes on it. It's hilarious.
 
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This was before my time on here, but is this seriously true? 85 went from a Trump hater to just a flat out Trump ass kisser?
85 thinks whatever conservative media tells him to think. He was very vocal about disliking Trump because the RNC was very vocal against Trump. He called everyone who supported him idiots and that he wasn't qualified and was bad for America and embarrassing etc etc. I use to pull his own quotes and pass them off as my own statements and he would call his own words unhinged. I could easily get him to call his own thoughts moronic. It was a glorious time and then the search feature got all bugged.
 
Fun fact: I used to troll you on the daily by pulling old comments of you just thrashing Trump. Like every single posts was sooooo good. You hated Trump almost as much as you hate liberals. It was crazy as someone who came to the board after the 2016 election I had no idea that such a colossal Trump nut hugger could have attacked him so strongly. You and Ninja were in agreement in every political thread, it was scary reading through them. Then you got your Right Wing Media marching orders and your own opinions melted away to be replaced by the thoughts of your conservative bloggers that 100% fully shape your identity. There is no real 85, you're a malleable ball of conservative media goo because youre not smart enough to have your own opinions hold up under any pressure at all. If the conservative media ever turned on Trump you'd be right back there beating the Marco Rubio drum like you were before. Because you're fully programmable and too dumb to do anything but use talking points that right wing nut job sites regurgitate into your mouth like a baby bird.

Me?

I've always hated Trump he's done me personal harm. I'm one of only a handful of Americans to have voted against his ass twice already. I don't expect that streak to change no matter how old the opponent is or what I read online. My values as a person are unwavering, something you're unlikely to understand based on your posting history.

You seem like a really fun person. Everybody likes someone who would rather point out their mistakes and call them names than someone that they can have a discussion with.
 
You seem like a really fun person. Everybody likes someone who would rather point out their mistakes and call them names than someone that they can have a discussion with.


Aaaaaaaaaaand right to personal attacks when confronted with a truth you don't like. Classic crazy.
 
Trump is the one who stirred this pot, you can own that or you can simply be wrong, I couldn't care less.
This predates Trump by 7 decades. He's just another in a long line on both sides that prefer conflict over diplomacy.
 
This predates Trump by 7 decades. He's just another in a long line on both sides that prefer conflict over diplomacy.

Except Obama used diplomacy and Trump ripped it up. That part doesn't predate Trump, that part was Trump's decision.
 
Except Obama used diplomacy and Trump ripped it up. That part doesn't predate Trump, that part was Trump's decision.

I would have been totally cool with Obama's approach to Iran if it weren't for the cash drop. Even still, rand paul was right in the debates when he made the point "why would we pull out of the agreement. Don't you at least want to know if they are complying?"

It wasn't a great agreement but at least it was a starting point.
 
You seem like a really fun person. Everybody likes someone who would rather point out their mistakes and call them names than someone that they can have a discussion with.
Point out his mistake? I'm pointing out when he was right.
 
Lol it’s really simple:

Didn’t support Trump in primary
Didn’t vote for him
Watched the entire left wing go batshit insane
Watched lunatics like Shook Chicken emerge
Repulsed by left wing
Trump has great policy victories
Democrats pathetically try to kill Kavanaugh character
Russia hoax
Impeachment debacle
Lunatics like Shook Chicken
Left remains insane

There is literally nothing to like about the left post 2016. They are morally repugnant and people like Shook and Shookster have joined the rest of the party in endorsing extremism such as endorsing abortion under any condition and endorsing socialism.

pretty simple really. What’s funny is that I have an actual nuanced history here whereas Shook Chicken and the other moron liberals here have always been outright partisan hacks
 
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Lol it’s really simple:

Didn’t support Trump in primary
Didn’t vote for him
Watched the entire left wing go batshit insane
Watched lunatics like Shook Chicken emerge
Repulsed by left wing
Trump has great policy victories
Democrats pathetically try to kill Kavanaugh character
Russia hoax
Impeachment debacle
Lunatics like Shook Chicken
Left remains insane

There is literally nothing to like about the left post 2016. They are morally repugnant and people like Shook and Shookster have joined the rest of the party in endorsing extremism such as endorsing abortion under any condition and endorsing socialism.

pretty simple really. What’s funny is that I have an actual nuanced history here whereas Shook Chicken and the other moron liberals here have always been outright partisan hacks
You used the word "shook" unironically 5 times in a single post.

That's a yikes.
 
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You used the word "shook" unironically 5 times in a single post.

That's a yikes.

Please don’t make us remind you that we use shook because you were so deranged and butthurt over Trump that you declared you were indeed shook. Like I said, you’re a perfect example of the lunacy from the left that repulsed everyone
 
Trump is the one who stirred this pot, you can own that or you can simply be wrong, I couldn't care less.

Yea he really stirred the pot when Iran starting shooting missiles at our bases and ended up killing a contractor. All Trunp stirring the pot!

another brilliant entry by you
 
Yea he really stirred the pot when Iran starting shooting missiles at our bases and ended up killing a contractor. All Trunp stirring the pot!

another brilliant entry by you

He has been stirring the pot with Iran for almost his entire presidency, starting with tearing up the Iran agreement. I get you are incapable of holding Trump accountable for anything but not all of us were easily brainwashed by a reality TV star. But again, you can view things as you wish, I don't care about your opinion.
 
He has been stirring the pot with Iran for almost his entire presidency, starting with tearing up the Iran agreement. I get you are incapable of holding Trump accountable for anything but not all of us were easily brainwashed by a reality TV star. But again, you can view things as you wish, I don't care about your opinion.

You care so little that you respond to every single thing I post. [roll]

Guess what? The Iran Agreement wasn't even ratified by Congress - it was purely an Obama Admin creation that had serious issues, namely that military sites weren't on the table for inspection and it did nothing to curb 1) terrorism in the region and 2) the ballistic missile program, both of which expanded rapidly the minute money flowed back into Tehran. You can bitch and whine about Trump all you want but sticking your head in sand and declaring that the deal was awesome is nonsense.

If we had stayed in, Iran would be a mere 5 years from expiration and they're already underway to a greatly expanded ICBM capability. Hmmmm, what typically goes on an ICBM? I'm sure they were just intending to launch some satellites into space for their Netflix users :rolleyes:
 
Lol it’s really simple:

Didn’t support Trump in primary
Didn’t vote for him
Watched the entire left wing go batshit insane
Watched lunatics like Shook Chicken emerge
Repulsed by left wing
Trump has great policy victories
Democrats pathetically try to kill Kavanaugh character
Russia hoax
Impeachment debacle
Lunatics like Shook Chicken
Left remains insane

There is literally nothing to like about the left post 2016. They are morally repugnant and people like Shook and Shookster have joined the rest of the party in endorsing extremism such as endorsing abortion under any condition and endorsing socialism.

pretty simple really. What’s funny is that I have an actual nuanced history here whereas Shook Chicken and the other moron liberals here have always been outright partisan hacks
im fairly similar and registered as independent.
i did not vote for trump. slightly liked him more than hillary
the left went nuts the day after he was elected
trump started to do some good things
news and left continued to get worse
kavanaugh character assasination was the worst ive seen
russian hoax was a 2 years nightmare
the news and left got even worse
impeachment is a political circus
the left have gone completely insane and must be stopped
 
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You care so little that you respond to every single thing I post. [roll]

Guess what? The Iran Agreement wasn't even ratified by Congress - it was purely an Obama Admin creation that had serious issues, namely that military sites weren't on the table for inspection and it did nothing to curb 1) terrorism in the region and 2) the ballistic missile program, both of which expanded rapidly the minute money flowed back into Tehran. You can bitch and whine about Trump all you want but sticking your head in sand and declaring that the deal was awesome is nonsense.

If we had stayed in, Iran would be a mere 5 years from expiration and they're already underway to a greatly expanded ICBM capability. Hmmmm, what typically goes on an ICBM? I'm sure they were just intending to launch some satellites into space for their Netflix users :rolleyes:

I most certainly do not respond to every single thing you post, you just completely made that up.

And now that the deal doesn't exist they are even closer to developing a nuclear weapon.
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Mid...ani-blowback-Iran-preps-to-build-nuclear-bomb

So explain to me what any of this, tearing up the agreement, the killing of Soleimani, etc has accomplished? Iraq wants our troops to leave, Iran states they will start developing nuclear weapons, etc. I just don't see what we have accomplished.
 
I just don't see what we have accomplished.
Trump was able to throw the bird at Obama by gleefully tearing up his Administration's agreement with Iran. How much fun was THAT?

Now from our country's perspective, it put us in worst shape than ever before. But come on, guys. Everybody knows Trump only gives a sh*t about his own personal interests.
 
I most certainly do not respond to every single thing you post, you just completely made that up.

And now that the deal doesn't exist they are even closer to developing a nuclear weapon.
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Mid...ani-blowback-Iran-preps-to-build-nuclear-bomb

So explain to me what any of this, tearing up the agreement, the killing of Soleimani, etc has accomplished? Iraq wants our troops to leave, Iran states they will start developing nuclear weapons, etc. I just don't see what we have accomplished.

Uh, simple. It has severely stemmed the flow of money into Iran which greatly assisted their ICBM program, their foreign terrorism, and most likely their nuclear program. Do you think there's a reason they kept their military sites off limits to inspection? Staying in a shitty deal that enriches a rogue terrorist regime with a mere 5 years left until nuclear breakout was possible again anyways, is a terrible approach.

Besides, the Iranians told us that they don't want a bomb, they just want nuclear power! And since they're such a trustworthy partner, we surely must take them at their word right?
 
Uh, simple. It has severely stemmed the flow of money into Iran which greatly assisted their ICBM program, their foreign terrorism, and most likely their nuclear program. Do you think there's a reason they kept their military sites off limits to inspection? Staying in a shitty deal that enriches a rogue terrorist regime with a mere 5 years left until nuclear breakout was possible again anyways, is a terrible approach.

Besides, the Iranians told us that they don't want a bomb, they just want nuclear power! And since they're such a trustworthy partner, we surely must take them at their word right?

There is no more deal so I don't know what you mean by being a trustworthy partner. You think they are going to abide by the deal that we pulled out of?
 
There is no more deal so I don't know what you mean by being a trustworthy partner. You think they are going to abide by the deal that we pulled out of?

They told us they never wanted a bomb in the first place. We should trust them! Surely it couldn't be that they were lying all of this time!
 
They told us they never wanted a bomb in the first place. We should trust them! Surely it couldn't be that they were lying all of this time!
The other thing is that our deal was front heavy on our part. Iran got a lot out of the deal before trump pulled out of it and it cost them nothing.

Again, I think trump should have gone further than he did to try to save it but I've got a bigger problem with the air drop. Only an idiot would give a known terrorist state a bunch of cash. That makes it seem like we didnt negotiate much of a deal that served our interests.
 
The other thing is that our deal was front heavy on our part. Iran got a lot out of the deal before trump pulled out of it and it cost them nothing.

Again, I think trump should have gone further than he did to try to save it but I've got a bigger problem with the air drop. Only an idiot would give a known terrorist state a bunch of cash. That makes it seem like we didnt negotiate much of a deal that served our interests.

If you want to criticize the deal that is fine, but I don't see how anyone can possibly think that simply canceling it was the right move. Trump should have tried to make changes and get a better deal if that was his issue, but that isn't what he did. He simply tore it up and got absolutely nothing for it. It would have been a perfect time for Trump so show off his (supposedly) masterful negotiating skills he always talks about.

You can criticize the air drop all you want, but the fact is, the deal appeared to be working. So it is possible, the air drop worked out just fine. Now we will obviously never know for sure but that is because of Trump, not Obama.
 
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