If ACC flagship schools can get out of their situation, its to go to SEC or B10. Can't see why ACC schools think jumping to any other conference and paying any amount of exit fees would be worth it. Would be like UCF paying AAC exit fee to join a non-P5 conference.
USC/ UCLA to Big 10?
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Exactly. AZ, ASU, UT, and CO don't have desirable brands. The best is Utah which is a flagship school and would have in state rivalry with BYU. Plus I'd love the opportunity to travel to Utah.
UCF comes out of nowhere in Gus Malzahn’s second year and wins the Natty. F’s all this stuff up. ⚔️🖤💛🍺🍺
Remember that ACC/Pac-12/Big 10 "Alliance" from last year? Took less than a year for one of those conferences to deal what is possibly a killing blow to one of their fellow "Alliance" members.
CFB is the definition of “trust no one”. Sad
Hopefully when everything settles....
THEY CHANGE THE DAMN CONFERENCE NAMES TO REFLECT THE NUMBER OR REGION.
... And usf is still f*cked.
THEY CHANGE THE DAMN CONFERENCE NAMES TO REFLECT THE NUMBER OR REGION.
... And usf is still f*cked.
Here's the ideal scenario imo for UCF...
Big 10 (creates a western travel pod):
Cal
Stanford
Oregon
Washington
Mountain West (no where to go):
Oregon state
Washington state
Big 12 (best of the rest):
ASU
Arizona
Utah
Colorado
Big 10 (creates a western travel pod):
Cal
Stanford
Oregon
Washington
Mountain West (no where to go):
Oregon state
Washington state
Big 12 (best of the rest):
ASU
Arizona
Utah
Colorado
Pessimistic but "Before that, let's take a chance to digest the current news" seems like a recipe for being left behind. "Let's delay"
One minute I feel really good about this for UCF, the next I feel really pessimistic.
I also cant tell if this is good or bad for the likes of USF, Boise, etc. I say bad. But their board gets in my head where they actually talk about the ACC..
Luck favors the prepared and we did it right.
I also cant tell if this is good or bad for the likes of USF, Boise, etc. I say bad. But their board gets in my head where they actually talk about the ACC..
Luck favors the prepared and we did it right.
It’s bad for everyone not in the SEC or Big10. CFB is contracting to two conferences step by step. The only thing that is preventing now is the ACC GoR. This is the reason no changes were made to the playoffs. Those two conferences will poach the remaining blue bloods and will effectively be the nfc and afc and hold its own Super Bowl.
Yeah I agree. I guess I meant from 2023-2036. Haha. Where is UCF in that area between now and the ACC GOR.
That gives us time to win games and maybe prove something.
Media markets don't matter as much. Streaming eliminates that. Our alumni and growth potential should be what these conference want.
But we dont have enough "old money" to really say much I guess. Lame.
Mike Huguenin mentioned on Bianchi's show the ACC just renegotiated their TV deal taking them out to 2036. Both Miami and FSU's GOR buyouts would be ~$500M. I would assume this would also apply to Clemson. OU and Texas, both very rich schools struggling in the $80M range so I don't understand how FSU or Clemson could come up w/that kind of money. Not sure if the ACC schools could afford deflecting to the SEC or BIG10.
Honestly, Is this so bad?
They can enjoy their own little circle jerk like they do now, but it will be very transparent. I’m sure viewers will love seeing the same four teams in their playoff for the next 20 years.
idk why you guys waste time reading usf fans delusions . They are in a really bad spot with crap attendance, they are most likely stuck w the likes of Middle Tennessee State for the next decade
ACC dissolving is the least likely to happen, which is bad for B12 and PAC12. ACC is in best position to poach teams. However, there is two groups in charge. ABC/ESPN and Fox. Those two can shape college football however they want, as we have seen demonstrated for years now.
The stronger B10 and SEC gets the worst it is for everyone that is not in those two conferences. They are going to get priority for money and rules, until it is essentially a P2.
It's overall bad for College Football. Now it's undeniable that the Texas-OU move opened the door for us to move up in the pecking order of College Football. That was very good. Unfortunately the College Football Landscape is turning from the Haves (P5) and the Have Nots (G5) to the Haves (Big 10-SEC) the Have Nots (Big 12, Pac, ACC) and the Never-Will-Bes (The Rest)
Its not a huge difference than what it has been for the last 20 years. Except now those programs won't have 2-3 games each year vs. FCS/weak g5 teams, nor meaningless bowl games. However, for schools like UCF and everyone else they will now never play against flagship schools and spend the rest of the days playing former middle of the road P5 teams and G5.
We have the talent to be a legit top 4 team.
But our SOS sucks this year, no way we get into the playoffs.
We'll be in the conversation by the end of the year.
That seems to be a big leap to say the talent is a legit top 4 team.
UCF's SOS will be known closer to end of season, versus beginning. I don't think it is that bad actually...
The POTENTIAL that may crack top 25 I THINK would be:
SMU
Cincinnatti
Memphis
Louisville
MAYBE Georgia Tech
Houston (AAC champ game perhaps)
NOT usf
The POTENTIAL that may crack top 25 I THINK would be:
SMU
Cincinnatti
Memphis
Louisville
MAYBE Georgia Tech
Houston (AAC champ game perhaps)
NOT usf
Georgia Tech was 3-9 last year, lost their last 6 games and was beaten 100-0 in their last 2 games combined. (granted against Notre Dame and Georgia but still)
That would be quite the turnaround.
That would be quite the turnaround.
Unfortunate all these conference contracts don't align with each other. Would be ideal for someone like Amazon to offer up exclusivity to BIG12/ACC & keep them afloat while getting more into the sports scene. They have been trying to with NFL.
Right. I agree. I said this yesterday. Soon enough the P2/P3 will stop scheduling any G5 schools.
As long as there
It's kind of crazy. The way things are going these conference are going to expand so much they are defeating the purpose of expansion. Each division is going to have 8, 9 , 10 teams, which basically means each division will in essence, be its own conference, no different than now. The only difference being one conference patch on the jerseys and one conference collecting all the money.
In my opinion, what all these teams are being short-sighted on is the ability to win things that matter. To win hardware. Does anybody really think adding Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC makes it easier for any 1 team in the SEC to win anything that matters in college football? There will be so many teams the chances of you winning is going to go down. The only way to circumvent things is to have these "super-conferences" not have a championship game. The winner of each division goes to whatever BS "playoff" they create, which is essentially what was happening before this consolidation.
I don't know. Anybody have crazy initial thoughts on how this plays out? What is the end game?
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Logically true, but they keep failing upwards.....didn’t belong in any conference they have been in......empty trophy case FTW
If they do form 2 super leagues and break from the NCAA then March Madness is dead
Anytime someone tells you that you don't have to put it in writing and a handshake will do...ask them for $100,000 loan on a handshake.
Lee Roy Selmon isn’t walking through that door
they are so behind in the arms race
ucf is behind and we are way ahead of them
I think your fear is justified. With the SEC grabbing Texas and Oklahoma, and the Big Ten grabbing USC and UCLA, you essentially have two super conferences. Don't be surprised when TV rights come along that these two Big Dawgs decide to say 'screw you' to the rest of the CFB world and form a college football alliance where bowl games and the national championship playoffs are determined between these two leagues.
Given the money and attention it wil garner, it would pressure Notre Dame to join up with the B1G and Clemson with the SEC.
And everybody else? As far as the Big Two superconferences are concerned, the rest of them can play for championships in their own second-tier conferences and play in their own bowl games and, perhaps, proclaim their own 'national' championship game. The Big Two won't care 'cause they're the ones with the big bucks and the mega-TV contracts.
The assumption is that winning hardware is what matters. Being in the super conference means you will always be relevant, have resources, get paid. Think of schools like Vanderbilt, Northwestern, ect. They may suck at football for decades, but they are in better position than 90% of schools.
This feels like ABA transition to NBA. Take some teams, the others kind of just dissolve from playing on the big stage. But the teams that remain become Multi-Billion dollar companies.
The vision from ABC/FOX, you only have major programs playing other major programs every week. No FCS, no G5. Georgia schedule is playing Florida, Texas, Michigan, USC, Alabama, Nebraska, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas, Wisconsin, ect. Now the final step would be for them to figure out how to get rid of Vanderbilt, Northwestern, ect.
I don't believe this is a college sports apocalypse.
Sure, a conference or two may dissolve or relegate. Happened before. (WAC, SWC, etc)
Sure a power concentration may occur...that's also nothing new. Was MORE exclusive with BCS...arguably.
Most of the powers involved, per what I heard on sports programs KNOW that college fans want their college sports, I don't think there is a desire to outright f*ck that up. They know...
usf will still be f*cked.
Sure, a conference or two may dissolve or relegate. Happened before. (WAC, SWC, etc)
Sure a power concentration may occur...that's also nothing new. Was MORE exclusive with BCS...arguably.
Most of the powers involved, per what I heard on sports programs KNOW that college fans want their college sports, I don't think there is a desire to outright f*ck that up. They know...
usf will still be f*cked.
